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BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:10:00 -
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ImpureMort wrote:in CHROMOSOME if you play dust at all any caldari tanker would have told you that they're advantages over gallente was speed and dmg vs gallentes resilience and damage because gallente can use rails 2 and missiles were worthless. the only other advatage was we could fit one of our low powered on the gunlogi with dmg mod ...so 2 advatages 1 speed 2 dmg both gone. while half the tanking world quit and the majority of the remaining tankers switched to gallente because its better in all aspects. and then there is the few who stayed caldari who have no purpose left in dust and are waiting for a damn respec hoping that before the respec by some miracle ccp fixes this
+1 This guy knows exactly what he's talking about.
I've spent over 100 million ISK on shield tanks in this build. I've experimented with just about every fitting you can think of but nothing seems to work. Now i'm forced to use militia dropsuits because shield tanking just isn't worth it anymore. |
BulletSnitcheZ
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:17:00 -
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EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: Actually the Caldari tank gets way more CPU than the Gallente, making fitting Railguns much easier on their part. Blasters take more powergrid, hence why the Gallente up the power output on theirs. And I can use EVE lore to explain DUST tanks since it directly applies. The Caldari Enforcer HAV gets bonuses to missile range and power. Missiles do less damage to shields, but more to armor... hmm.. I wonder why that is? Plus, given they can hit from much further than a blaster to begin with..
...It almost seems like the Caldari Enforcer HAV is designed to snipe from long range with missiles, and is really effective against armor tanks. But that can't be right, CCP hates Caldari and made Gallente better at everything. You know, how the Gallente get a bonus to blaster range. Because that does a whole lot for a tank design that's supposed to be engaging at range to begin with, but still needs to be the closest out of any other to be effective.
No, Caldari Enforcer HAVs don't get a bonus to range, they get a bonus to zoom.
It's extremely difficult to hit anything with missile turrets from ANY range. Splash damage on missiles are a joke, even a militia dropsuit can survive 3 - 4 volleys from my prototype missile turrets. I have to constantly rely on direct damage to get kills, especially when infantry targets are hiding behind objects. If you're using missile turrets, you better cross your fingers and pray that you'll hit something.
The DPS on Missile turrets are also extremely poor, that's why Blaster tanks always kill missile tanks in mid-close range engagements. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:05:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:You're b*tching about me insulting you yet you calles me an ass? Missiles aren't s*** at all you're probably to stupid to aim them. You didn't even actually say anything about the speed comparisons, are you really that idiotic. If it wasn't mean to be in comparison to Eve, both caldari and gallente tanks could easily armor tank with a similar hp. I would call you a ****** but even the mentally handicapped make more sense than you.
Missiles Turrets are very unreliable and ineffective, you'd be ignorant to think they're completely fine as they are right now . When you're using missile turrets, you never know if you're going to get a kill or not. When i point my blaster turret at someone, i KNOW i'm going to hit them. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:06:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote: I haven't personally tried large missile turrets but with smalls, I tend to get more kills with missiles than blasters. No missile tank pilot I know has any complaints about large missiles and at most by the second volley their target is downwhich is quite a bit more reliable than large rails, however I don't think they should match blasters in close range purely because of how much farther they can reach.
Believe me, they're very inconsistent. You have to try it for yourself to really understand what i'm talking about. Like i said before, missile turrets are unreliable from ALL ranges. The fire interval on missile turrets is so slow that armor tanks can run to safety before i can even knock their shields down.
Since I've made the switch to blaster turrets on my Gunloggi, i'm getting a lot more kills and i die a lot less often too. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:26:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote: The way I've seen them used is very similar to blasters but with better sustained fire, more range, and more single shot damage. Even though I didn't plan on it I may train an alt into missile tanks. I see missiles as a bit like rockets in Eve, dumb fire with decent damage and quick travel but trades damage for range in comparison to blasters.
Your stance on Missile Turrets is based entirely on assumption. If Missile Turrets were really as effective as you make them out to be, a lot more people, including myself, would be using them. how often do you see people getting killed with a missile turret installation?
Fact is, Hybrid turrets are still the only viable option that tankers have in this game. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.19 21:29:00 -
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Tankin Tarkus wrote:caldari enforcers gets a range AND damage boost to missiles which are strong against armor
It's true that Missiles have a damage bonus to armor, but at the same time, Blaster tanks will always kill Missile tanks because they have better DPS.
It takes at least 2 - 3 volleys from a missile turret to destroy the shields on an armor tank. Each volley has a 2.5 second interval, so it takes 5 - 7.5 seconds JUST to destroy the shields on an armor tank.
By the way, shield hardeners are a complete joke. 10 seconds of resistance is not enough to protect your tank from sustained fire. Using shield hardeners instead of resistance amplifiers puts you at a huge risk because it doesn't give you constant protection like armor hardeners do. |
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