yeah and maybe before you open your ******* mouth you should take the time to consider that eve deals with spaceships key word SPACE AS IN 0 GRAVITY where armor has no weight the fact the gallente is faster than caldari in eve is irrelevant when applied to dust tanks in dust are not floating around space they are sitting on a planet. where armor has wieght. the fact that ccp has made armor faster than shield in UPRISING is complete lunacy and makes 0 sense

Then feel free to enlighten me on the physics of the inertia dampener, and how the shields work? Also how exactly the laser rifle is as precise (not to mention visible) and powerful as it is?

Here, try this: Because the Madrugar has 1/3 the shield capabilities of the Gunnlogi, whatever it is that would normally take up the space of the shield generator can be used to install a bigger engine in the Madrugar. And since the Gallente are armor specialists, they have R&D to much lighter, more effective armor equipment than the Caldari, who in turn favor their shields.

Or feel free to keep raging like you are, being ignored by CCP and the likes. You don't have to act like a child about it though, insulting everyone and cursing up and down the thread.

are you a tanker in dust

and furthermore in uprising gallente tanks trump caldari in all aspects period they are faster have more hp deal more damage and take more damage they have better resistance modules and the effective weapons on them were nerfed. YOU CANNOT USE EVE SPACE SHIPS TO EXPLAIN DUST TANKS they operate in different environments with different factors that effect speed. also you can fitt a madrugar with a rail gun equally if not more effectively than a gunlogi. and it out ranges missiles and is more effective vs shield so a gunlogi with missiles or rail...vs a madrugar with rail the madrugar will be able to kill the gunlogi before it can get within range when thinking of proto accelerated missiles and with rail vs rail the advantage still goes to the madrugar as it ca have 60 second of active res more hp fast yadyada same reasons do not comment on dust tanks unless your a dust tanker you clearly do not know what your talking about

and i have no idea how laser rifles or inertial dampener got brought into this but its hands down true that gallente trumps caldari in every single aspect period every taker that is in uprising will say the same the only advantages caldari ever had were gone with the uprising update mocking me wont change the fact that ccp has ****** the balance with tanks this build.

Then feel free to enlighten me on the physics of the inertia dampener, and how the shields work? Also how exactly the laser rifle is as precise (not to mention visible) and powerful as it is?

Here, try this: Because the Madrugar has 1/3 the shield capabilities of the Gunnlogi, whatever it is that would normally take up the space of the shield generator can be used to install a bigger engine in the Madrugar. And since the Gallente are armor specialists, they have R&D to much lighter, more effective armor equipment than the Caldari, who in turn favor their shields.

Or feel free to keep raging like you are, being ignored by CCP and the likes. You don't have to act like a child about it though, insulting everyone and cursing up and down the thread.

They got brought into this because you're claiming it makes no physical sense for something tanked with armor to have higher speed than something with shields. So I'm pointing out there are lots of things in the game that don't make sense in our current conception of reality.

Also, we do have such things as Carbon Fiber and Kevlar currently. Which are extremely lightweight, extremely durable materials. Just imagine what sort of armor composites the Gallente have in the future?

Actually the Caldari tank gets way more CPU than the Gallente, making fitting Railguns much easier on their part. Blasters take more powergrid, hence why the Gallente up the power output on theirs. And I can use EVE lore to explain DUST tanks since it directly applies. The Caldari Enforcer HAV gets bonuses to missile range and power. Missiles do less damage to shields, but more to armor... hmm.. I wonder why that is? Plus, given they can hit from much further than a blaster to begin with..

...It almost seems like the Caldari Enforcer HAV is designed to snipe from long range with missiles, and is really effective against armor tanks. But that can't be right, CCP hates Caldari and made Gallente better at everything. You know, how the Gallente get a bonus to blaster range. Because that does a whole lot for a tank design that's supposed to be engaging at range to begin with, but still needs to be the closest out of any other to be effective.

No, Caldari Enforcer HAVs don't get a bonus to range, they get a bonus to zoom.

It's extremely difficult to hit anything with missile turrets from ANY range. Splash damage on missiles are a joke, even a militia dropsuit can survive 3 - 4 volleys from my prototype missile turrets. I have to constantly rely on direct damage to get kills, especially when infantry targets are hiding behind objects. If you're using missile turrets, you better cross your fingers and pray that you'll hit something.

The DPS on Missile turrets are also extremely poor, that's why Blaster tanks always kill missile tanks in mid-close range engagements.

No, Caldari Enforcer HAVs don't get a bonus to range, they get a bonus to zoom.

It's extremely difficult to hit anything with missile turrets from ANY range. Splash damage on missiles are a joke, even a militia dropsuit can survive 3 - 4 volleys from my prototype missile turrets. I have to constantly rely on direct damage to get kills, especially when infantry targets are hiding behind objects. If you're using missile turrets, you better cross your fingers and pray that you'll hit something.

The DPS on Missile turrets are also extremely poor, that's why Blaster tanks always kill missile tanks in mid-close range engagements.

splash sucks ass and needs to be fixed. Anyways, if you read the des., enforcer skills clearly give bonuses towards range.

but it does not give range just zoom.

Until you can speak with greater respect for those who disagree with you, I'm done talking to you. Gallente are faster than Caldari (until you heavily plate the tank), HTFU and accept it.

I've told you the reasons why, you're just not listening. Please learn some etiquette. /thread

yup.

actually the enforcer tanks are (at lv5) +15% damage and range +10 zoom to their specific turrets range wise favors caldari more since missiles already come with much greater range and the fact that missile damage doesnt drop with distance

as far as missiles go they arent that bad at all just takes a bit of leading your shot i sometimes use large missiles usually either the one with blast radius or faster missiles and they work wonders against installations(usually 3 shots) at any range depending on how accurate i am

when i said faster i ment flight time not fire rate i know the cycled dont have their fire rate bonus anymore(probably a bug)

lol probably not i think most ppl assume missiles are still broken and wont go near them

my only issue with them is blast radius shots that look like they should hit dont but other than that i like em

Why do the BS threads survive the longest?

ass

Call me whatever you want but CCP changed the speeds for a reason, not only did armor accelerate slower before plates they also had a slower max speed with a similar if not lower hp. This is how it's meant to be, which is why in Eve (not a direct comparison of mechanics but it sets how races are balanced) every gallente ship is faster than it's caldari counterpart.