the gallente tank is ment for close range engagements where escape isnt going to be quick and easy they get the longer hardeners because of this

the caldari tank is ment to fight at a range where escape is far easier and the hardeners are only ment to last till u get behind your cover

I think you don't understand how they work.

caldari enforcers gets a ZOOM AND damage boost to missiles which are strong against armor HAVs ONLY

caldari enforcers gets a range AND damage boost to missiles which are strong against armor

Oh really?

Two damage modifiers add around 20% damage.
Five damage modifiers add 31% damage.

While it certainly is higher, it's not worth it. Giving up your entire tank for a little more damage is asinine.

I have to +1 this. As an armor tanker, you don't actually feel safe until you have at 5000+ armor, some (read: 25%) resistance, and a heavy repper. I've dabbled with damage mods, and it's not worth it.

The problem is that there isn't an option for shield tanks to become shield tanks. Also, as the entire thread is supposed to be about, the fact that shield tanks have lost their speed which gave a slight edge in the whole "escape so you can regenerate" thing.

Not that Dust has always followed EVE lore, but in EVE Gallante ships are medium armor, high armor regen, and second fastest ships in New Eden.

I believe this is where the speed order came from

FIXED btw the range boost for the whole enforcer is30m not much of a bonus because they easy to avoid at anything past 100m by everthing so range is still basically the same with them, its like they didn't even get a range bonus.

It's true that Missiles have a damage bonus to armor, but at the same time, Blaster tanks will always kill Missile tanks because they have better DPS.

It takes at least 2 - 3 volleys from a missile turret to destroy the shields on an armor tank. Each volley has a 2.5 second interval, so it takes 5 - 7.5 seconds JUST to destroy the shields on an armor tank.

By the way, shield hardeners are a complete joke. 10 seconds of resistance is not enough to protect your tank from sustained fire. Using shield hardeners instead of resistance amplifiers puts you at a huge risk because it doesn't give you constant protection like armor hardeners do.

how about instead of falsely correcting me u actually read the skill

ill quote it right now straight from the game

"Unlocks the ability to use Caldary Enforcer HAVs. +3% to missile DAMAGE and RANGE per level. +2% to maximum ZOOM per level."

it does all 3

you need to learn to read better. it seems you didn't read all of it and well that's a shame on you not me.

if u cant hit anything past 100 meters with the missiles thats your problem not the game's

i was able to get them to hit dropships out of the sky when tanks couldnt even aim up all u have to do is lead your shot and let them drive into the missiles.....

u correcting me with false info then contradicting yourself is "a shame on you not me"

my maulus cruises at 4202 m/s. that's pretty respectable for gallente.

Regardless of time you still have a higher level of resistance.

may which ever god(s) have mercy on your soul as your time must be short with that level of intelligence.

He is infinitely more intelligent than you.

What, with your belief that five damage modifiers is superior to two despite the amount of tank you lose, and your belief that time actually matters when it comes to hardeners. Many HAV brawls end fairly quickly, and having 10 seconds of high resistance can be far more useful than 30 seconds of medium resistance.

may which ever god(s) have mercy on your soul as your time must be short with that level of intelligence.

clearly you never been in a rail tank battle.

and most fights that last less than 10sec that's resist would not of helped at all. killed more shield HAV in the time for them to turn on the hardeners and booster and start shooting back.

Meaningless assumptions.


Wouldn't the same be true for those who used armor hardeners?

no because theirs is 60 seconds long so they can have it nearly permanently with cycling because their cooldown is 15 second.

plus most battles with non-HAV AV fights last longer then 10seconds where that 10 second of high resistant mean nothing.

this is why I hate dust U...

Leave Brittany ALONE!

Bro, don't even. I just joined for the lulz. I've never even squaded up with them let alone talked to them.

its not even worth playing when they are on the field its like beating up blind kids.