Right now there's almost never an ISK incentive to do a corp battle.

I like them, but I still have to get all of my isk from pub stomping. Giving me isk from pve isn't going to make me feel better either, as I want to have organized matches against decent opponents!

I DOUBLE POSTED! :D I feel initiated now.

This comes down to who is offering the reward and what is on the line as a risk for them. The fact that the best defense for FW is to not accept the defense contracts... is broken.

What would be awesome is an area of space that players own districts, make money, make more money by attacking, and the fighting is so intense that only the best survive. That would be awesome.

gbghg will feel so happy to have company

feeling lonely in the pot?( and it's my crappy wifi, there's a reason my ps3 has an ethernet cable in it

You seem to miss the point not every corp wants to own districts but still want to fight corp battles. What I am hearing is "this isk/reward is in owning the districts". So I assume thats passive isk/resources/lp to be earned for it? Which if I remember correctly is how nullsec became a big blue bag of fun.

Tell me where I am wrong?

You seem to miss the point not every corp wants to own districts but still want to fight corp battles. What I am hearing is "this isk/reward is in owning the districts". So I assume thats passive isk/resources/lp to be earned for it? Which if I remember correctly is how nullsec became a big blue bag of fun.

Tell me where I am wrong?

I should really finish that dev blog.

My apologies, I did miss understand that. You are correct though that not all DUST corporations will want to participate in owning districts when that eventually does come around.

We are aware of that. The really nice thing about corporation battles right now is that they allow two corporations just to set up an arena type match. If you remove the FW bit of them they can be fun with limited to no risks and rewards or extremely competitive with lots of ISK on the line. This is something we are aware of and are actively thinking about.

As for the null sec NAP fest: The problem with null sec in EVE as I see it is that an organization (corporation, alliance, coalition, whatever) will expand and take as much territory as they can hold, or think they can hold. Once they have reached that limit they stop. Then they start adding friends on so they they are even safer. There is no point in attacking anything except for the explosions (which I think are awesome) or for taking it. If you are extended to the limit though taking it is not really an option.

Stop for a moment, this is just random chit chat and discussion here, even though I know some of you will still run off as if this is all done and done, this is just me discussing stuff because discussion is fun.

Anyways, what if once you own whatever you think you can you still wanted to attack. Not because you want more stuff, but because after an attack the winner walks away with more than they would have if they sat there and did nothing. So you can sit there and just make money, but attacking without the intention to take ownership gives you the chance to make more money.

Thoughts?

Again, random discussion.

this is funner

I should really finish that dev blog.

My apologies, I did miss understand that. You are correct though that not all DUST corporations will want to participate in owning districts when that eventually does come around.

We are aware of that. The really nice thing about corporation battles right now is that they allow two corporations just to set up an arena type match. If you remove the FW bit of them they can be fun with limited to no risks and rewards or extremely competitive with lots of ISK on the line. This is something we are aware of and are actively thinking about.

As for the null sec NAP fest: The problem with null sec in EVE as I see it is that an organization (corporation, alliance, coalition, whatever) will expand and take as much territory as they can hold, or think they can hold. Once they have reached that limit they stop. Then they start adding friends on so they they are even safer. There is no point in attacking anything except for the explosions (which I think are awesome) or for taking it. If you are extended to the limit though taking it is not really an option.

Stop for a moment, this is just random chit chat and discussion here, even though I know some of you will still run off as if this is all done and done, this is just me discussing stuff because discussion is fun.

Anyways, what if once you own whatever you think you can you still wanted to attack. Not because you want more stuff, but because after an attack the winner walks away with more than they would have if they sat there and did nothing. So you can sit there and just make money, but attacking without the intention to take ownership gives you the chance to make more money.

Thoughts?

Again, random discussion.

Anyways, what if once you own whatever you think you can you still wanted to attack. Not because you want more stuff, but because after an attack the winner walks away with more than they would have if they sat there and did nothing. So you can sit there and just make money, but attacking without the intention to take ownership gives you the chance to make more money.

If it's an initial "NPC reward", corps can just attack themselves for $. Will the reward from attacking be more than not even if you lose control because the mercs you paid have finished their contract? It seems risky -.0

I think it's highly likely that you'll get a monopoly like IRL. Corps will just have agreements with each other not to attack themselves, because everyone will make more isk if no one has to spend resources to defend.

My apologies, I did miss understand that. You are correct though that not all DUST corporations will want to participate in owning districts when that eventually does come around.

We are aware of that. The really nice thing about corporation battles right now is that they allow two corporations just to set up an arena type match. If you remove the FW bit of them they can be fun with limited to no risks and rewards or extremely competitive with lots of ISK on the line. This is something we are aware of and are actively thinking about.

As for the null sec NAP fest: The problem with null sec in EVE as I see it is that an organization (corporation, alliance, coalition, whatever) will expand and take as much territory as they can hold, or think they can hold. Once they have reached that limit they stop. Then they start adding friends on so they they are even safer. There is no point in attacking anything except for the explosions (which I think are awesome) or for taking it. If you are extended to the limit though taking it is not really an option.

Stop for a moment, this is just random chit chat and discussion here, even though I know some of you will still run off as if this is all done and done, this is just me discussing stuff because discussion is fun.

Anyways, what if once you own whatever you think you can you still wanted to attack. Not because you want more stuff, but because after an attack the winner walks away with more than they would have if they sat there and did nothing. So you can sit there and just make money, but attacking without the intention to take ownership gives you the chance to make more money.

Thoughts?

Again, random discussion.

Dust needs to retain the fps part when it comes to simplicity. In eve its hurry up and wait for fleet battles or fleet roams. Hell even hisec wardecs are cat and mouse. In dust it is log in, count heads, find contracts, shoot face.

PLEASE LET US TRANSFER DISTRICTS TOO!!!! I would love to be able to buy/sell districts but there needs to be a actual build in contract tranfers and there needs to be roles/8 hour window for it

I fully support corps owning districts and planets and having rewards for maintaining them but the economy needs to function outside that. If you make is that all the isk/reward in controlling a district and it takes time to convert that district (I'm assuming again its not a win it, flip it model) then large corps/alliance will do to lowsec when we have done to nullsec.

a way to counter the above is to make defending pay more.

the more you own the more you make. the attackers don't make much initially, but if they manage to take control of the area, once they start getting attacked, they make the iskies(if they can hold it)

To be honest I would rather like to see it get harder and harder to take more space. Maybe even exponentially harder. Each district should represent something and none should feel entirely irrelevant. People new and small should feel like they are earning and single organizations shouldn't hold large swaths of space. That being said at every chance we get I want us to show who owns what. If someone owns a planet, or all the planets in a solar system, or all the systems in a constellation I want their logo EVERYWHERE. The corporations are so vitally important to the social nature of this game.

Few random thoughts....