Simple analogy -- You have a Minmatar ship that is being held together by literally duct tape, platic bottles, tin foil, gum, and everything else that any real mechanic would tell you is either a miracle that it runs or is a disaster waiting to happen.
Some people have no aspect of reality when it comes product development.

Fixed that for you.

So CCP is letting us test a mock build.
This then means they have mocked us for all these months.
Nice...or rather not.

Cling to you hopes but betas can't turn common stone into Gold.

Beast, you are correct. After reviewing many of your posts in this thread it is obvious that you are. Not in the "less complex, immediate simple gratification" camp regarding Dust

Mea Culpa

And to be honest, your overarching point, that we should learn from the core mechanics of other FPS games while pushing DUST to be 'all that it can be' is well taken

I wonder if the post earlier today from Cdr Wang (CCP updates & what they're working on) indicate effort in the right direction. Most of his bullets seemed to point towards tightening the gun game response and mechanics.

Wow.. I'm gone for only a few several days and this happens.

I'm not even going repeat myself about this all. Been there done it. If you do not like the game leave. If you think it's too complex then I have news for you it is only going to get more complex as the game unfolds and expands. Right now we're probably only seeing about one sixth, or one seventh of the full game. We do not have even all of the gear, equipment, vehicles, or skills. We do not have player verse. enviroment, or exploration. Will we get co-op, or singlular missions it could happen in time. This game is going to continue to expand literally.

We do not want it to be just a generic first person shooter, or game. CCP is trying to target a broader audience, but that same audience does not mean "everyone" or that they should bend over to those same players looking for instant gratification. CCP is doing fine and to those complaining about "polish" or that the game is still "rough" well maybe you have not noticed, but this is just another build in a line of more builds. Why would a basic build be polished? Pfft. Learn how to write code and then comeback here. It's not easy to write millions of lines of code. Right now this build has been so utterly upheaved and rewritten so many times and updated, added to that it's essnetially jurry rigged. Which accounts for the latency issues, errors, glitches, disconnects, and everything else. Simple analogy -- You have a car that is being held together by literally duct tape, platic bottles, tin foil, gum, and everything else that any real mechanic would tell you is either a miracle that it runs or is a disaster waiting to happen. Good thing this is essentially a mock build. We're just waiting for the final build and finished product. That takes time to get to though.

Some people have no aspect of reality when it comes product development.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&find=unread

Today's post, bullet about gunplay seeming 'off'.

I must admit that yours and Brahma's posts cause me concern. You make valid arguments about what we all see as the current state of the game and it's future potential

I don't think I have ever read a dust forum post by anyone stating the game feels ready for release. And i hope this might be a glass half empty/full scenario...

A lot of us see what dust can be and push hard (forum post-wise) for that

Some of us (including yourself) see dust for what it currently is and that gives you great cause for concern

Perhaps we are not so far apart in regards to what we want, just in how we get there....

Thank you for your posts and thoughts

But I didnt type kitten Big smile

You do come across as a bit of a kitten with your posts tho but hey I know I'm not one to talk.