Dude your not worth it sorry just move on or hang around and be a troll either is fine with me.

Just write somthing like "see no one has said anything detailed and I am right your all wrong" and bam you win the internets for a day.

Still waiting for all the elitists to give a detailed explanation as to how the core mechanics of Dust are more complex than BF3 or any other FPS.

Why dont you just go back to battlefield? You ignore my response, then continue to cry about no response. Am I mistaken? Or does battlefield make you think about earning money/isk, budgeting said isk so you can afford the skill books necessary to.specialize, all while keeping enough bank roll to afford weapons. Then making sure you skill turrets as well as HAV. Then making sure you dont skill all armor and than go buy a caldari HAV? You have your answer troll, go away.

That's a spectacular way to dodge the question. Just use a blanket statement like "troll" and that will do.

I'm after a genuine discussion.

Explain how. Will I have to do a handstand while pressing L1, R1 to get a kill? Learn tree surgery to be able to capture a null cannon?

Still waiting for all the elitists to give a detailed explanation as to how the core mechanics of Dust are more complex than BF3 or any other FPS.

Have at it people. Let's hear it.

OK, sure, I'll give you a few points of comparison.

Dust will have 1000s of planets to fight on and to possibly own...BF 3 has a handful of maps with no investment opportunity.
Dust has a "real" economy that will fluctuate...Battlefield 3 has none.
Dust has cost and risk management requirements...Battlefield 3 has preset classes that are always there and no risk.
Dust will have more than 10x the customization available to BF3 players including mods,vehicles, equipment, weapons, etc...
Dust will have a Meta-game involving politics, espionage and teamwork...BF3 has nothing of the sort.

Do you get the idea?

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I was about to get to this :)

Yes, those are all great things. Very cool and innovative ideas. I love these aspects of Dust. However, they have nothing to do with the fact that that it's still a point and shoot - capture objectives, meat and potatoes FPS.

That's what I'm asking. How does that differ from a game of Conquest in BF3?

I'm talking about the core gameplay.

That's what I'm asking. How does that differ from a game of Conquest in BF3?

I'm talking about the core gameplay.

I don't understand why we have to "prove" why this game is more complex. The OP is the one who brought up how "hard it is" to understand. Your posting in this thread why? To defend that it's easy?


Like most here I have played/own the COD/BF/Borderland titles. Are they fun? Yup.

BUT I also am looking for an FPS that has a little something extra. DUST has it. Whether you are just trolling or have blinders on and don't want to believe it, ok.

DUST will be the first ever PC/PS3 (Console?) crossover FPS on the market. Groundbreaking.

DUST lets you choose a multitude of suits/modules/weapons to CREATE your character. Does COD/BF3 let you create anything? No... They let you "alter" some things, the rest is how it is, take it or leave it.

Meta game (look it up), enough said.


For all of us that have ever wanted a tactical team based type of FPS, this is also in DUST's wheelhouse.


Basically OP and Beast, your arguments fall on deaf ears. Most posting in here love the depth and complexity that DUST provides. When this game releases, it might not go over like the bigger franchises, it will probably do just what EVE has done. Slowly building a large player base that is extremely loyal that trusts CCP to develop more/better content (fix what they admit they mess up) and will consistently grow.


If you or others like you can't see the potential of this game, nothing anyone says will sway you.

Core shooter gameplay will always be the same. Do you want to have to not point and shoot? Are you asking to roll dice or play a match game, its a shooter.

You could have said this 4 pages ago ..faceplam

No idea this is my first FPS game but its the same all over you shoot somthing and it gets hurt.

Edit: hmmm its a little like saying war is not complex because it is always the same you kill each other.

My beef with Dust is that it doesn't have the core mechanics in place (yet). I find gun-play to be extremely poor at the moment.

OP: you're right.
Let's go about our businesses, and eventually watch as the bloated, purulent rotten floating carcass of this maleodorant mishap of a game attempt passes by the river.

Let the fanboys drill their brains with the idea that they'll enjoy a game that people don't play.
Exactly like eve.

And let us laugh at their stupidity afterwards.

OP: you're right.
Let's go about our businesses, and eventually watch as the bloated, purulent rotten floating carcass of this maleodorant mishap of a game attempt passes by the river.

Let the fanboys drill their brains with the idea that they'll enjoy a game that people don't play.
Exactly like eve.

And let us laugh at their stupidity afterwards.

OP: you're right.
Let's go about our businesses, and eventually watch as the bloated, purulent rotten floating carcass of this maleodorant mishap of a game attempt passes by the river.

Let the fanboys drill their brains with the idea that they'll enjoy a game that people don't play.
Exactly like eve.

And let us laugh at their stupidity afterwards.

Facepalm.... So this was another not understanding its a beta thread.

I'd like to thank you guys who gave genuine replies and left defensiveness to one side.

We all want Dust to be the best game it can possible be. I think it's foolish to ignore what the most popular games are doing and I also think it'd be foolish to not make the game accessible to new players. I'm hopeful there'll be detailed tutorials, mainly because I'd like the game to have a huge community. The more people spending time and money playing the game, the more resources for further development.

In other words: we can have our cake and we can eat it. A spacecake if you will. Hopefully I wont have to pour SP into cake eating skills.

No hard feelings I hope beast, I can be a kitten sometimes. Stick around for release and I am sure you will enjoy.