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Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:06:00 - [931] - Quote Where's that spread sheet with the updated numbers for all the heavy suits. I feel like number crunching.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 697	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:14:00 - [932] - Quote If you hate the Gal Sent that much, go make a "buff the Gal Sent" thread and leave us in peace, because shitting all over Gal users for our choice isn't helping anyone. Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:17:00 - [933] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: If you hate the Gal Sent that much, go make a "buff the Gal Sent" thread and leave us in peace, because shitting all over Gal users for our choice isn't helping anyone. I see it as helping you out of a bad suit and into a good one, or at the very least not letting your opinion sway people looking to find out the heavy meta. you didn't even try to defend the suit it's so bad :D
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 697	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:27:00 - [934] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: If you hate the Gal Sent that much, go make a "buff the Gal Sent" thread and leave us in peace, because shitting all over Gal users for our choice isn't helping anyone. I see it as helping you out of a bad suit and into a good one, or at the very least not letting your opinion sway people looking to find out the heavy meta. you didn't even try to defend the suit it's so bad :D I see it as an attack on players for their choice of suit. A troll trying to **** of people because he can't understand why they use what he views to be an "inferior" suit. Here's a point for you; maybe some of us don't give a crap about your precious meta and would rather use a suit we like. Purifier. First Class.
VAHZZ RabbitSwarm 8	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:41:00 - [935] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: The Gal suit being unable to specialize in effectiveness grants an edge to any heavy it fights, making it generally an anti-everything else suit for decent HP and fire power. I have to disagree. It may not specialise like the other suits, but that doesn't automatically put it at a disadvantage. if anything, not specialising and being a general purpose suit actually allows it to adapt to the changing flow of battle without needing to go back to a supply depot. Just my opinion, but I'd rather have a jack-of-all-trades suit than a can't-do-anything-without-a-logi-on-me suit, because that's how the AmSent comes across to me; the go-to suit for Logi spam. Indeed, without a logi, i only take 5 peeps with me in my AmSent. It is a sitting duck by itself, it's reps are horrendous. "I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." *20XX*
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:50:00 - [936] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: If you hate the Gal Sent that much, go make a "buff the Gal Sent" thread and leave us in peace, because shitting all over Gal users for our choice isn't helping anyone. I see it as helping you out of a bad suit and into a good one, or at the very least not letting your opinion sway people looking to find out the heavy meta. you didn't even try to defend the suit it's so bad :D I see it as an attack on players for their choice of suit. A troll trying to **** of people because he can't understand why they use what he views to be an "inferior" suit. Here's a point for you; maybe some of us don't give a crap about your precious meta and would rather use a suit we like. When have i ever called you bad or made any reference to you or any player who actually chooses the suit? in the end they're all going to destroy any other suit that comes near them, but your ultimately gimping yourself for picking Gal. Gal preforms fine, but it's the weakest heavy suit. Take it as a personal offense, i don't really care. it saddens me to see the state of the heavy community, we were once the biggest. Before that scout thread ever came to be was the 100 page Heavy Rage thread. We used to be quite the organized bunch on our views, and we often used to love just going at it about our favorite suit just so the post counts would go up and CCP could see a discussion between different styles of play, even if we refused to see each others. But posters these days seem to be whiney bitches who are too tunnel vision, narrow minded, and self centered to see past there own joy-sticks. I wouldn't be surprised if CCP has abandoned reading several threads like these due to bias-obscure-unrelated-non-sense and posters inability to adapt and survive. Because that's Dust - Adapt and Survive, Loyalty and Pride will get you crushed. Even my Amarrian ass will put on heathen technology to get the job done.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2015.09.07 16:53:00 - [937] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: The Gal suit being unable to specialize in effectiveness grants an edge to any heavy it fights, making it generally an anti-everything else suit for decent HP and fire power. I have to disagree. It may not specialise like the other suits, but that doesn't automatically put it at a disadvantage. if anything, not specialising and being a general purpose suit actually allows it to adapt to the changing flow of battle without needing to go back to a supply depot. Just my opinion, but I'd rather have a jack-of-all-trades suit than a can't-do-anything-without-a-logi-on-me suit, because that's how the AmSent comes across to me; the go-to suit for Logi spam. Indeed, without a logi, i only take 5 peeps with me in my AmSent. It is a sitting duck by itself, it's reps are horrendous. put.... reps on?
VAHZZ RabbitSwarm 8	Posted - 2015.09.07 17:05:00 - [938] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: The Gal suit being unable to specialize in effectiveness grants an edge to any heavy it fights, making it generally an anti-everything else suit for decent HP and fire power. I have to disagree. It may not specialise like the other suits, but that doesn't automatically put it at a disadvantage. if anything, not specialising and being a general purpose suit actually allows it to adapt to the changing flow of battle without needing to go back to a supply depot. Just my opinion, but I'd rather have a jack-of-all-trades suit than a can't-do-anything-without-a-logi-on-me suit, because that's how the AmSent comes across to me; the go-to suit for Logi spam. Indeed, without a logi, i only take 5 peeps with me in my AmSent. It is a sitting duck by itself, it's reps are horrendous. put.... reps on? I do. "I fear all you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." *20XX*
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 698	Posted - 2015.09.07 17:13:00 - [939] - Quote If you actually cared about helping the Gal Sent, you could (and should) have gone about it in a more constructive manner; "I think the Gal is lacking and UP compared to other Sentinels but I have an idea that might help it." Much better way to do it than coming in here and basically trashing the suit. At the very least you'd have gotten discussion, rather then what we ended up with. Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 968	Posted - 2015.09.07 17:23:00 - [940] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: If you actually cared about helping the Gal Sent, you could (and should) have gone about it in a more constructive manner; "I think the Gal is lacking and UP compared to other Sentinels but I have an idea that might help it." Much better way to do it than coming in here and basically trashing the suit. At the very least you'd have gotten discussion, rather then what we ended up with. i don't care about the suit, i care about misinformation being passed a long. I didn't pipe in till people were actively thinking Gal was the best suit. and now people who read the thread will read why that's an inappropriate statement for several reasons. And then i tried to convince you but you're a loyalist to it for some odd reason.

Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 970	Posted - 2015.09.07 17:31:00 - [941] - Quote I actually should point out I've made 2 threads about the Gal suit in the past, one after the switch between Amarr and Gal and why it would hurt the Gals severely without immediate help And one 5 months later after i returned from a brake and realized Gal was my only Sentinel suit and i spent all my SP into tanks before realizing it. So i was stuck in it for a good while until i get 5 in Amarr and got it's full benefits. So i did put the Gal Sent through the ropes, made a ton of different variants. And it was like upgrading from PS3 to 4 putting the Amarr back on and it's 4 lows. And now I have increased stamina, considerably, and more armor to make the rep, speed, and hack suits even more lethal! shweet. But... where does that leave the Gal? So i made thread about it, it was discussed, people agreed, wanted more reps, but no one was willing to admit an HP problem goes a long with adding reps, you can't ignore EHP, so if you do give Gals more reps, you need to reduce it's, just a bit. No one likes this, obviously, and the thread dies.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Abstract Requiem 7	Posted - 2015.09.07 20:34:00 - [942] - Quote So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog CEO of Abstract Requiem
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 970	Posted - 2015.09.07 20:47:00 - [943] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. If you're using plates you're doing it wrong.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 698	Posted - 2015.09.07 20:57:00 - [944] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. If you're using plates you're doing it wrong. So Amarr is only good if you use, what, Ferroscales? Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 970	Posted - 2015.09.07 21:08:00 - [945] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. If you're using plates you're doing it wrong. So Amarr is only good if you use, what, Ferroscales? either plates but regular is fine, mixed with kats and reps. Take advantage of he Amarr base attributes and you'll enjoy a good stomping;
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 698	Posted - 2015.09.07 21:31:00 - [946] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. If you're using plates you're doing it wrong. So Amarr is only good if you use, what, Ferroscales? either plates but regular is fine, mixed with kats and reps. Take advantage of he Amarr base attributes and you'll enjoy a good stomping; EDIT: You can use anything below proto, i suppose. I use STD from time to time on extra slots. Seems frail for holding a point, which I assume Dreis was doing. Purifier. First Class.
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 970	Posted - 2015.09.07 21:39:00 - [947] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. If you're using plates you're doing it wrong. So Amarr is only good if you use, what, Ferroscales? either plates but regular is fine, mixed with kats and reps. Take advantage of he Amarr base attributes and you'll enjoy a good stomping; EDIT: You can use anything below proto, i suppose. I use STD from time to time on extra slots. Seems frail for holding a point, which I assume Dreis was doing. Did he say he had a logi? Then he's doing it wrong :3 versatility is the key with pub Amarr heavy, and you'll be able to hold points by surviving and DPSing down enemies going near it by staying a hinderance. You can't expect your team to be reliable. When he goes to PC and he has an organized team then he can switch to more plates since he'll have reps, and maybe even rep hives. But even then, dodging fire is often times more useful then taking it.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 700	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:26:00 - [948] - Quote Shadowed Cola wrote: Did he say he had a logi? Then he's doing it wrong :3 versatility is the key with pub Amarr heavy, and you'll be able to hold points by surviving and DPSing down enemies going near it by staying a hinderance. You can't expect your team to be reliable. When he goes to PC and he has an organized team then he can switch to more plates since he'll have reps, and maybe even rep hives. But even then, dodging fire is often times more useful then taking it. He never said he was doing pubs either, he might have been doing PC or FW. He might have had a logi who died while repping him. You can't just say "you're doing it wrong" without knowing all the facts, not unless you want to come across as an arrogant sod. Purifier. First Class.
Dreis ShadowWeaver Abstract Requiem 7	Posted - 2015.09.07 22:32:00 - [949] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Did he say he had a logi? Then he's doing it wrong :3 versatility is the key with pub Amarr heavy, and you'll be able to hold points by surviving and DPSing down enemies going near it by staying a hinderance. You can't expect your team to be reliable. When he goes to PC and he has an organized team then he can switch to more plates since he'll have reps, and maybe even rep hives. But even then, dodging fire is often times more useful then taking it. He never said he was doing pubs either, he might have been doing PC or FW. He might have had a logi who died while repping him. You can't just say "you're doing it wrong" without knowing all the facts, not unless you want to come across as an arrogant sod. Was in a pub Dom, had a Logi but he backed out. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog CEO of Abstract Requiem
Shadowed Cola Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 971	Posted - 2015.09.07 23:42:00 - [950] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Shadowed Cola wrote: Did he say he had a logi? Then he's doing it wrong :3 versatility is the key with pub Amarr heavy, and you'll be able to hold points by surviving and DPSing down enemies going near it by staying a hinderance. You can't expect your team to be reliable. When he goes to PC and he has an organized team then he can switch to more plates since he'll have reps, and maybe even rep hives. But even then, dodging fire is often times more useful then taking it. He never said he was doing pubs either, he might have been doing PC or FW. He might have had a logi who died while repping him. You can't just say "you're doing it wrong" without knowing all the facts, not unless you want to come across as an arrogant sod. well, considering he said he just specced into it, it was pretty safe to assume it was a pub game. and if he had a logi he never mentioned it when he said the suit sucked because it died fast. And if he did have a logi he didn't 'have' a logi if he was always dead. Bad logi or bad heavy not covering his logi. I think it's more arrogant to assume things he never said, but i guess that's just me :3

Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.09.08 01:36:00 - [951] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. Hey remember when I said its difficult to chabge over to a new play style completely? you went from speedy suit to the slowest suit in game so lets slowly get used to being slow. Try this speedfit sentinel I built for ya Lows: Complex ferroscales x1 Complex armor rep x1 complex kincats x2 highs: complex shield ext weapons: Boundless ahmg Boundless BSMG so with this you have,assuming you have maxed cores, 522 shields,832 armor,11 hp/s armor regen and 6.7 m/s sprint speed. Fairly tanky,medium armor reps and quite speedy too. With the AHMG you have lower DPS though but higher range. May not be perfect build but it sure is fun Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2015.09.08 12:36:00 - [952] - Quote Gal Sent: I would like to give it 2 more reps per second native to the suit. That would give the suit plenty of options with its low slots without having to fit a Rep, or be able to compete with Amarr as a full Rep fit, although, I find that full reps is not as effective as mixing things up a bit. A green bottle fixes the stamina problem, and if Gal Sent had enough native repts, they could afford to use a slot for a biotic. Also, resistance to Rail Rifles, Sniper Rifles, and Bolt Pistols is nice, even if it does not help against other Sentinels. Amarr Sent: For general use I suggest 1 standard plate (it seems to get you over a health threshold and you die less to snipers and don't seem to get one shotted by shotguns). The movement penalty is less on the Standard plate than the Proto. Then fit at least 1 Proto Rep mod. Finally I like to put a Kin Cat on there, although sometime I run extra Rep mods instead. This is how you fit an Amarr Sent for self sufficiency. Just don't forget you got to duck behind cover for longer periods to regen if you don't have a Logi. At least wait until your shields are mostly back up before reengaging. If you don't pay attention to your own health bar, don't come complaining to me when you die a lot. Min Sent: 3 Myos and 2 Kin Cats is hands down the most fun Sentinel fit... but I die at least twice as often as I do in the Amarr fit, and I don't get all that many more kills than in the Amarr suit. That being said, I get more opportunities to kill, so a really good player who could consistently land rounds on target, would probably get lots of kills in this setup. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2015.09.09 11:56:00 - [953] - Quote I am starting to really hate that truncated pyramid (I think CCP calls it the Matrix or something). That place is a death tramp for HMG Sentinels. Even the Assault HMG does not have enough range to be effective in that massive open building, and it is hard to find cover when people with rifles are constantly shooting from 3 or 4 different angles. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Vash Warren SMARTCREW Smart Deploy 226	Posted - 2015.09.09 12:01:00 - [954] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I am starting to really hate that truncated pyramid (I think CCP calls it the Matrix or something). That place is a death tramp for HMG Sentinels. Even the Assault HMG does not have enough range to be effective in that massive open building, and it is hard to find cover when people with rifles are constantly shooting from 3 or 4 different angles. I have never had luck with that map on sentinels, which sadly forced me into assaults and Commandos, and while not bad in their own right I just enjoy logi or sentinel more. Slapping a rifle on it seems to make it better but if you use that may as well us an assault. Caldari Body, Caldari Core, But Amarr with my Soul. 23 Mil SP, Next Adventure. Amarr Assult/ Caldari Logi
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 709	Posted - 2015.09.09 12:06:00 - [955] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I am starting to really hate that truncated pyramid (I think CCP calls it the Matrix or something). That place is a death tramp for HMG Sentinels. Even the Assault HMG does not have enough range to be effective in that massive open building, and it is hard to find cover when people with rifles are constantly shooting from 3 or 4 different angles. Ironically, that's the map I had my best unsupported run; 34/4 in an advanced Cal Sent using an MH-82, hovering around the objective. Had 1 corp mate up top, helping blueberries lock it down, I was solo down below mowingdown AmManndos, praying my regen held up. Purifier. First Class.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:18:00 - [956] - Quote My best match was when I got 40/5, don't know what the map is called, basically its where the supply depot was underground while the objective was straight ahead of it. Anyways I sneaked into the depot with a scout since the enemy team was holding the objective. I switched to my usual sentinel build and held the depot for as long as I can but alas my efforts were too late as the enemy still won. It was fun though Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 709	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:28:00 - [957] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: My best match was when I got 40/5, don't know what the map is called, basically its where the supply depot was underground while the objective was straight ahead of it. Anyways I sneaked into the depot with a scout since the enemy team was holding the objective. I switched to my usual sentinel build and held the depot for as long as I can but alas my efforts were too late as the enemy still won. It was fun though Gallente Research Facility aka Lag Facility? Purifier. First Class.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.09.09 23:51:00 - [958] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: My best match was when I got 40/5, don't know what the map is called, basically its where the supply depot was underground while the objective was straight ahead of it. Anyways I sneaked into the depot with a scout since the enemy team was holding the objective. I switched to my usual sentinel build and held the depot for as long as I can but alas my efforts were too late as the enemy still won. It was fun though Gallente Research Facility aka Lag Facility? No not that, its where the objective is in a spherical building which is also connected to another smaller spherical building. Both buildings have open rooftops Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 10:04:00 - [959] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I am starting to really hate that truncated pyramid (I think CCP calls it the Matrix or something). That place is a death tramp for HMG Sentinels. Even the Assault HMG does not have enough range to be effective in that massive open building, and it is hard to find cover when people with rifles are constantly shooting from 3 or 4 different angles. I LOVE that map. The calsent and minsent shine there. It's a deathtrap for am/galsent though. Most of the people camping the rooftops rock rail rifles and combat rifles. A solid shield fit on a calsent and a speed fit on the minsent with either DPS spiked or a shield buffer tends to hit the corners and run up the pyramid outside like a bulldozer. They have a really hard time breaking you on the way up. Play the calsent like a human shield for a squad charging up the pyramid then when on top drop down directly on your targets through the hatch for some straight d**k moves. The minsent with a kincat and a cardiac combined with shields or DPS mods can keep pace with most assaults and logis. The amarr and galsent are relegated to ambush camping on that map because the cover is sparse enough that they are almost always exposed to fire from at least one angle. Fast regen is key for sentinels on that map. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 11	Posted - 2015.09.10 10:08:00 - [960] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: So I dropped over 1 Mil SP into the Amarr Sentinel and HMG. It sucks. I was running the Aurum Proto variants I had collected from salvage, but it feels like I lose 1344 Armour on my Sentinel faster than I lose 343 Shield on my Scout. Hey remember when I said its difficult to chabge over to a new play style completely? you went from speedy suit to the slowest suit in game so lets slowly get used to being slow. Try this speedfit sentinel I built for ya Lows: Complex ferroscales x1 Complex armor rep x1 complex kincats x2 highs: complex shield ext weapons: Boundless ahmg Boundless BSMG so with this you have,assuming you have maxed cores, 522 shields,832 armor,11 hp/s armor regen and 6.7 m/s sprint speed. Fairly tanky,medium armor reps and quite speedy too. With the AHMG you have lower DPS though but higher range. May not be perfect build but it sure is fun This. Fit new suits as close to your playstyle as possible and wean yourself into new suits. I have been playing mostly sentinel for YEARS. Running ferros invariably gets me massacred. But when i run plates, reps and cardiac regs or what have you, matching my sentinels closely I am able to basically play a "diet fatty" and because it's my normal playstyle I do better running that "bad fit" than I do with a meta fit. Your experiences will of course be just as unique. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.



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