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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:38:00 -
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Fellow Mercs,
CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
CCP Frame, CCP Community Team
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4282
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:40:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/wallpapers/MCC-Staging-Area/MCC-Staging-Area-wallpaper_940x529.jpg[/img] Fellow Mercs, CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
Yes!
See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
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Chimichanga66605
Vader's Taco Shack
355
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:42:00 -
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No. *******. Way.
You actually did it.
Well, smack my ass & call me surprised.
Cheers, o7
Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist
"Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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SirManBoy
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
866
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:43:00 -
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Dope! |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
553
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:44:00 -
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FRACKING A!!!!
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
891
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:45:00 -
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Omg ahahahshrkxojrjrjrjjrje OHHHHHHHH MYYYYYY GOOOOOOD !!!! Im flipping out right NOW!!! dust Orgasem Level 90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Kuruld Sengar
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
298
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:46:00 -
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And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Revelation 6:5 |
Kain Spero
Ahrendee Inc.
4998
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:46:00 -
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
I hope this feature gets filled out more in the future though. It's a start.
Scamming might get a bit insane.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
307
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:47:00 -
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IT IS A MIRACLE.!!!!!!! OMG
Me CA### en la p### que te p### = happy face :)
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
654
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:47:00 -
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Aw, yeah! I'm gonna get stinkin' rich after this comes out! |
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Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
6063
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:51:00 -
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I read this two minutes ago and I'm still smiling.
I don't think I can stop.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
19282
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:51:00 -
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/me gets out the mop bucket.
CPM 1, Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
773
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:53:00 -
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Huge influx of players incoming... |
The Modern Creature
Incorruptibles
36
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:55:00 -
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Only for Loyalty Ranks 4+. And you say loyalty ranks can be earned easily? Hilarious. Just playing a character over a year and a half only took me to 2/3rds over 1. That's without paying. I'm sorry Rattati but you've gotten the 3rd tick for a total of 5. Stick this feature up your ass.
Attention passengers I will be your captain for the evening, I'm sure we won't run into any swarms but just inc- JUMP!!!
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
2132
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:57:00 -
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"Later this month"
Is that as definite a date as we have right now? Obviously we're all much to excited to wait
Make my Scrambler Pink!
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
9512
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:00:00 -
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Awesome. This will pave the way for more interesting features and things that can make the game better as a whole.
Are you being Angry or Assertive?
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ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me gets out the mop bucket.
Did you go pee pee on the floor again?
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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DiablosMajora
97
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:01:00 -
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This is good!
Though there is (somewhat) of a development plan in the devblog, will the Trello board be updated anytime soon to make note of upcoming features and releases post Warlords 1.2?
Any potential (vague is fine) ETA on the upcoming features and development?
Prepare your angus
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
553
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:03:00 -
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The Modern Creature wrote:Only for Loyalty Ranks 4+. And you say loyalty ranks can be earned easily? Hilarious. Just playing a character over a year and a half only took me to 2/3rds over 1. That's without paying. I'm sorry Rattati but you've gotten the 3rd tick for a total of 5. Stick this feature up your ass.
So this is a feature for paying players eh?
How much Aur does one need to buy to get rank 4?
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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psyanyde
70
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:04:00 -
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Quote:Loyalty Ranks can be earned easily
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/430/877/271.gif |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
6023
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:04:00 -
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aaaaw shiiiit
Some details can be ignored
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12256
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:05:00 -
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While I understand the requirement to lock it based on loyalty rank, 4 seems very high when you take into account new players. Should be rank 3 at most in my opinion.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
9203
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati,
I understand the purpose of the loyalty rank requirement, but can you please make the rank requirement slightly less? Maybe 2 or 3? 4 is quite high for someone who can only afford a a few thousand aurum a year.
If nothing else, can you please explain the reasoning behind the rank of 4?
@Ripley_Riley
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
6023
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:06:00 -
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Hold on, trust based? Who trusts anyone in new eden?
Some details can be ignored
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Denchlad 7
Negative-Feedback.
2039
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:08:00 -
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HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEETC
Time to prepare Dench's Emporium of Everything \\\\o////
I think it should be capped at Loyalty Rank 3 by the way.
"Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m6
Currently on Dust hiatus.
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1126
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:20:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Hold on, trust based? Who trusts anyone in new eden?
IKR?
I sure as hell won't be handing over my items before ISK. Code Bazaar policy: Buyer pays first.
Selling Items
Store - Code Bazaar
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
744
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:30:00 -
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you send me the iskie first, i then send you the item  |
Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2945
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:37:00 -
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Nice work CCP. This is a major milestone. The loyalty point requirement is smart. New players probably won't have much of a need for trading. The big concern I have is whether you guys have tested the hell out of this. If we have bugs where items are duped or items are sent but never delivered, it could create some serious chaos (not to mention ruin more than a few friendships).
o7
Best PvE idea ever!
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
537
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:37:00 -
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Huzzah!!
Can we get a confirmation window of items received, it's a small point, but might have been missed based on the warbarge setup
Would help those looking to get into the escrow business
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4413
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:47:00 -
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Erm when exactly is this going live? Today or tomorrow after the event is done?
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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DRT 99
RAT PATROL INC.
373
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:53:00 -
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Chimichanga66605 wrote:No. *******. Way.
You actually did it.
Well, smack my ass & call me surprised.
Cheers, o7
*smack*
any chances of getting a trade menu that allows us to trade items for other players items?
not just player 1 send thing to player 2, but a fully functional player 1 offers item 1, player 2 offers item 2, etc? |
JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
2275
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:00:00 -
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I believe level 4 is too high. Level 3 seems more appropriate.
P.S. About damn time!
Can I haz ur ISK?
Do you have officer gear or rare items to sell or trade? Message me in game with details.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
2690
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:02:00 -
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YEAH!!!!!!! Finally get to clear out my inventory!
You actually did it.....
I just deleted every contact i had.... GREATTT BRILLIANTTTT
Scout prone to rage holding a shotgun, knives, and REs
Snake Eyes>All
You only see me when i want you to see me
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
1495
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:15:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:I believe level 4 is too high. Level 3 seems more appropriate.
P.S. About damn time!
Agreed. My Tanker alt and Assault alt are punished due to me having never spent AUR on them.
IF YOU CAN READ THIS
YOU DON'T NEED GLASSES
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
875
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:29:00 -
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So it's finally coming and my nearly 3-yo main won't be able to trade? I've been stuck at Rank 3 since ranks were introduced and I play several matches almost every night. Guess it doesn't matter, since I wouldn't be able to get my BPOs off my ~20M SP, regularly played Rank 1/2 alts anyway. You should probably consider basing it on Lifetime WP or something that *actually* represents time spent playing.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
941
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:30:00 -
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Currently willing to purchase Nothi's Nks for 250k a pop 07. 1 million for 3
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
SWBF Trailer April
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1128
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:31:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Currently willing to purchase Nothi's Nks for 250k a pop 07. 1 million for 3
Tip: Put up a [WTB] Thread in the Code Bazaar.
Your prices are too low, BTW.
JL3Eleven wrote:I believe level 4 is too high. Level 3 seems more appropriate.
P.S. About damn time!
Wait, wut? Where does it say!? (Being lvl. 3 instead of 4 I mean)
Selling Items
Store - Code Bazaar
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
6137
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:32:00 -
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Really excited to see this finally happen. It's been a long time coming.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3439
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:33:00 -
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J!
1. I need to change mah pants
2. Serious bsns: will BPO trading be thing right off the bat? Or later? The last sentence was ambiguous on the timing.
Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy
First to PM me with common name wins
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Russel Mendoza
7th air cav
39
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:34:00 -
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i getting tired right now, this smile on my face just wont go away.
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
Summoning technique "Gorgon no jutsu"
Vehicle request accepted.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
2472
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:38:00 -
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Is there ever going to be an API accessible for dust players? |
Hijinxqld
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:48:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/wallpapers/MCC-Staging-Area/MCC-Staging-Area-wallpaper_940x529.jpg[/img] Fellow Mercs, CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
If this is anything else like the last coulpe updates, why do i have this horrible feeling that it will be as broken as the rest of the game. Dont get me wrong, im excited for the trader market just like all, but can see all the agro from
scams, and bullcakka happening. But on a side note, ive got a fair bit of isk already, and can see me starting to sell all those experimental weapons and officer gear ive been saving since i started 2 yrs ago. So i wonder what i have that everyone else wants and is willing to pay an arm, leg, and a clone for... kubos, ghalags, aldrins... got heaps of things just collecting dust, pun intended lol. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3443
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:52:00 -
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/mewants kubos...
Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy
First to PM me with common name wins
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9654
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:56:00 -
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Loyalty Rank 4 is silly. Pay to trade? Why not just use whatever requirements you guys used for CPM candidates? Can't recall what they were exactly but it seemed pretty fair.
Amarr are the good guys
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2023
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:58:00 -
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omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
i have so many things to sell!
Stahl Arms Manufacturing.
You need shiit? We got shiit!
I literally can not understand how people can survive being so inept.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2023
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Posted - 2015.04.15 03:59:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Is there ever going to be an API accessible for dust players?
Soxfour pretty much said not for a very long time. :(
I literally can not understand how people can survive being so inept.
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Aeon Amadi
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
9515
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:08:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Is there ever going to be an API accessible for dust players?
Obligatory response
You haven't realized there's no drive for that? x3
Are you being Angry or Assertive?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
8748
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:09:00 -
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\o/
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2569
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:11:00 -
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I've been playing this game for two years, I've spent some aurum and played many games, and I'm still only rank 4. That's way too high.
Other than that, WOOHOO! About darn time!
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2569
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:18:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Revelation 6:5
Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. 9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation.
Hebrews 5:8-9
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4421
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:33:00 -
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Why do you have to ruin the trading system with a trading fee on top?
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
2472
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Is there ever going to be an API accessible for dust players? Obligatory responseYou haven't realized there's no drive for that? x3
Oh really? Just wait until people start trying to find an easy way to communicate the visibility and track their owned assets for sale. Trust me this will quickly become a very tedious and painful process quickly. Given the performance issues off the contact lists right now, combining it with asset queries over and over will involves taking minutes just to make a single trade, not to mention all the times a trader will be asked what they have only to have to waste so much time checking our maintaining their own out of game library. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11480
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:39:00 -
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Since we still have until later this month to discuss this, I like to point out that Loyalty Rank 4 is a bit high for my liking and I'm rank 7 right now.
I say reduce it to level 2. That's reasonable enough I think.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
327
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:41:00 -
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YAY! but no BPO trading? boo but still happpy for the feature
Moo?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11480
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:49:00 -
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Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:YAY! but no BPO trading? boo but still happpy for the feature
It's for the best that doesn't happen on day one in case of bugs. I would rather lose my BPOs to a scam than to an in-game glitch.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11480
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:50:00 -
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@CCP Frame
Can you please explain to us the nature of the fees and how they work between buyer and seller?
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2246
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Posted - 2015.04.15 04:59:00 -
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Well, looks like nobody will be getting any of my stuff because of the fee. It's not really about the ISK because I have no problem giving ISK away even if it takes me below 1k. I try to be a generous person and most of my stuff I was planning on just giving away because I won't use it and I don't care about the ISK, but with this fee I'm being punished for being a nice guy. On the other hand even if I were to "sell" them I'm sure as hell ain't about to pay a fee when there is absolutely no guarantee that I'm not going to get ripped off.
So fck that noise, I just won't "trade".
"We're kind of having a girl talk, Louise" "Yes, but are you naked?"
Rated [TV-MA]
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11481
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Posted - 2015.04.15 05:20:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Well, looks like nobody will be getting any of my stuff because of the fee. It's not really about the ISK because I have no problem giving ISK away even if it takes me below 1k. I try to be a generous person and most of my stuff I was planning on just giving away because I won't use it and I don't care about the ISK, but with this fee I'm being punished for being a nice guy. On the other hand even if I were to "sell" them I'm sure as hell ain't about to pay a fee when there is absolutely no guarantee that I'm not going to get ripped off.
So fck that noise, I just won't "trade".
I wouldn't put much stock on the image until CCP makes a clear statement on how fees will work.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
6140
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Posted - 2015.04.15 05:39:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Loyalty Rank 4 is silly. Pay to trade? Why not just use whatever requirements you guys used for CPM candidates? Can't recall what they were exactly but it seemed pretty fair.
I think the CPM candidate requirement is likely a higher bar to reach than reaching LR4 without aurum.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
1009
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Posted - 2015.04.15 06:14:00 -
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Good plan, but its a shame that players who have not spent aurum for loyalty ranks are essentially cut out of the market.
Its in the devblog itself, by just playing getting two or three characters to level 4 is virtually impossible. Unless somebody just drops a merc pack on each one. Then use that aurum to up the warbarge, and farm double the amount of experimental weapons tht way. Its an 'exploit ' (more like an expensive farming method' that wil be profitable to CCP of course, which i dont have any problem with.
I've gathered roughly 10 mil SP since ranks were released, and even then only upped my loyalty rank one level when i bought 100k aur. This is what makes me concerned that a large amount of our small player base will be cut out and not the bitter vet forum warriors like myself, who frankly don't care, we are high enough already.
Iif there is time to change an aspect before release, it really shoud be a reasonably average warpoint haul. That is something earned only through playing, and a goal that would encourage newer dust bunnies to stay rather than either alienate those who have spent time, effort and energy but not cash on this free to play game. Rightly or wrongly, loyalty ranks are believed to nbe tied to aurum. After announcing that dust is profitable at fanfest, a lot of those players will wonder why they have to spend aurum to acess a long prmised feature.
tl:dr, it should be more inclusive, instead of exclusive. Kill alt farming with WP requirements, not with L.R. requirements.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
2362
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Posted - 2015.04.15 06:25:00 -
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... really? Loyalty rank 4? Well... thanks... there goes two BPO's and quite a few officer weapons I'll never be able to touch on alts. Lovely.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
86
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Posted - 2015.04.15 06:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Loyalty Rank 4 is silly. Pay to trade? Why not just use whatever requirements you guys used for CPM candidates? Can't recall what they were exactly but it seemed pretty fair.
I think the requirements were like a day of play or something like that.
Petition to ban the trainyard map.
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
48
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Posted - 2015.04.15 06:52:00 -
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Not Bad , Not Bad .... hmmmmm loyalty ranking! ok i can deal with that . its a semi vets trade market only for the time being. no noobs basically .
( the issue is trust ) i have over 500+ officer weapons never used & ready for sale and my boys get dips 1st . so whatever chicken scrap i have left over ill post it on a forum thread. 07
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Sleepy Shadow
Qualified Scrub
303
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Posted - 2015.04.15 07:25:00 -
[64] - Quote
I sincerely regret ever putting any money into this game. And I have put quite a lot, to a free game anyway.
CCP, would you like to enlighten us on how long does it take to reach rank 4 by just playing the game? No AUR, just playing. And weGÇÖre not talking about no-lifing that crap, no, just few hours a day. How many wins and logins? So in essence, what is the expected waiting time for a new player to start trading items? 6 months? Maybe a year? YeahGǪ Nice job. Introducing a feature that is exclusive to long time players is quite insulting. And there are some long time players that are not even rank 4 yet. You are just awesome with your fear over alt farming.
If you want to add a rank, have it at max 2. It still takes time and effort to reach that. I also find it hilarious that those people that are willing to line your pockets are free to farm alts to their hearts content.
And scrap that stupid trading fee as well. We donGÇÖt have any interaction with NPC corps so it doesnGÇÖt make any sense. If you ever start building on that then maybe you can make a fee. For now though, itGÇÖs just ensuring poorer players are shafted. And new players, but I guess we donGÇÖt have to worry about them as they will not be trading.
I would like to add that these opinions come from a Major (rank 9) with 300MIL ISK.
=ƒÿ¦
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Vicious Minotaur
2302
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Posted - 2015.04.15 07:26:00 -
[65] - Quote
Yay.
Two of my alts are well over a year old and already get screwed out of a feature.
Casual play amongst multiple accounts and characters is frowned upon, apparently. Either sink in massive amounts of time and/or money on a singular character, or GTFO.
I am a minotaur.
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
865
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Posted - 2015.04.15 07:44:00 -
[66] - Quote
Awesome,finally, thanks or the work, this'll be great.
Not for me though, i've only been here 2 years, and haven't reached Lv 4.
you will probably have a reason that is beyond me.
GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
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Skybladev2
LUX AETERNA INT
RUST415
175
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Posted - 2015.04.15 08:07:00 -
[67] - Quote
The Modern Creature wrote:Only for Loyalty Ranks 4+. And you say loyalty ranks can be earned easily? Hilarious. Just playing a character over a year and a half only took me to 2/3rds over 1. That's without paying. I'm sorry Rattati but you've gotten the 3rd tick for a total of 5. Stick this feature up your ass.
I totally agree. I played over 2 years and reached only rank 2.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4383
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Posted - 2015.04.15 08:09:00 -
[68] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:To prevent alt-farming and other exploitative behavior, we will be limiting all trades to mercenaries with Loyalty Rank 4 or higher
First of all, it's not true that you can gain level 4 so easily, i'm lvl 5, i play from the open beta and i've bought a few aurum (15-20k)
Sencond all of us has been demoted some time before.
Gain levels is almost impossible without AUR and you know it very well, but you act like you don't.
This ain't even a protection system, if a new player decide to pay 50k aur than he can do what he want.
Play from Japan, rule the game!
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The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
112
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Posted - 2015.04.15 10:22:00 -
[69] - Quote
Playng since open beta and still level 5 my alt is 6 monthes younger( 35 mil sp) but rank 3. I ve never bought an aurum but it seems a bit ridicoulous that i cant trade , it was better if it requires rank 2-3 and 15-20 mil SP? This is my opinion.
P2T = Pay to Trade
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Kain Spero
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
5006
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Posted - 2015.04.15 10:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test.
At most it really should be is 2% for such an unsecured transaction. For example, the base sales tax fee in Eve is 1.5%. You then have skills that lower that further to 0.75%.
You might want to consider having either the warbarge have a slot that reduces the trade fee, make it where Jara lowers the trade fee, or add skills that lower the trade fee.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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nickmunson
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
79
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:03:00 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/wallpapers/MCC-Staging-Area/MCC-Staging-Area-wallpaper_940x529.jpg[/img] Fellow Mercs, CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
after promising TWO DAMN YEARS ago, yeah nice work, better late then never. punch shot there.
love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1125
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:14:00 -
[72] - Quote
Sweetness! Can't wait to start doing this.
I'm Loyalty Rank 8 so I'm not bothered about that, at all.
Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0
Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0
Commando gk.0
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
870
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:41:00 -
[73] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:The fee is much lower than 10%, we haven't really decided on a final fee. That screenshot was just some QA test. At most it really should be is 2% for such an unsecured transaction. For example, the base sales tax fee in Eve is 1.5%. You then have skills that lower that further to 0.75%. You might want to consider having either the warbarge have a slot that reduces the trade fee, make it where Jara lowers the trade fee, or add skills that lower the trade fee.
I agree, the tax/fee could be a one off price or a low percentage. especially when is this easy to get scammed.
And the war barge slot s an idea as long as the gaining of this bonus is not paired by an unholy components price.
About jara idea, i don't have her in my quarters and want to keep it that way.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1932
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Posted - 2015.04.15 12:33:00 -
[74] - Quote
lower that loyalty rank, Rattati
Won't be much trading if the majority of players can't do it.
Also...
I expect this system to lead a makeshift Bounty-System. People posting bounties somewhere and then others posting pics of them killing the target several times and get the ISK in trading.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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YoloScout
Rautaleijona
1
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Posted - 2015.04.15 12:59:00 -
[75] - Quote
I've been playing Dust 514 for 1 and a half years now without spending money for aur and I'm still rank 3. I think the requirements should be rank 2-3 because otherwise it just cuts new player out of trading since rank 4 is really hard to reach.
Or make it based on lifetime sp. For instance 20mil lifetime sp sounds good.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1102
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Posted - 2015.04.15 12:59:00 -
[76] - Quote
How to fix scamming:
Each player offers an item (or money), the items are then placed on a table. If both players are satisfied with the offer, select "exchange" and the transaction will be complete. |
The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
Learning Alliance
101
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:26:00 -
[77] - Quote
Yes I'm crying, tears of joy man, tears of joy
People think this is my main yet I mainly play as Scotty. Its no secret
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
168
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
The Eristic wrote:So it's finally coming and my nearly 3-yo main won't be able to trade? I've been stuck at Rank 3 since ranks were introduced and I play several matches almost every night. Guess it doesn't matter, since I wouldn't be able to get my BPOs off my ~20M SP, regularly played Rank 1/2 alts anyway. You should probably consider basing it on Lifetime WP or something that *actually* represents time spent playing.
I've got a similar issue, My main is about 2.5 years old, yet he was only loyalty rank 1 last I checked.
Jack-of-most-trades, master of one.
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
332
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:35:00 -
[79] - Quote
I used to play Dust every night. I would normally cap out on my main over the weekend, so I had an alt on another PSN I would break out before the weekly reset, I'd say I averaged an hour or two a week of gametime on that character for over a year. He's still rank 1. Anyone who says you can earn ranks without spending aurum is a bald faced liar.
Hopefully CCP listens to the voices in this thread. At the very least, down the road when they implement BPO/booster trading, perhaps they can remove the restriction for normal items.
On a side note, will rank 4+ players be able to give items to newer characters? At least then the veterans can arm the rookies in a form other than straight isk.
Connoisseur of Blueberry Pancakes
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reydient
ROGUE RELICS
103
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:42:00 -
[80] - Quote
Do we have confirmation that BPOs can be traded ? |
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
332
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:57:00 -
[81] - Quote
reydient wrote:Do we have confirmation that BPOs can be traded ?
They mentioned it as a long term goal, but not something that will be included in at first.
Connoisseur of Blueberry Pancakes
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6241
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:57:00 -
[82] - Quote
The monetary value of Trust in DUST just went up 200%.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6241
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:59:00 -
[83] - Quote
Hobo on Fire wrote:reydient wrote:Do we have confirmation that BPOs can be traded ? They mentioned it as a long term goal, but not something that will be included in at first.
Yeah, if there are problems with the system, then they want to find them and fix them before people start trading stuff with real world value (AUR items).
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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QORII BALOGUN
NUBIAN PHOENIX CORP
2
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:12:00 -
[84] - Quote
As others have stated loyalty rank 4 is too high and why not just have a confirmation window for active trades? Simple really, give item A for item X or ISK, confirm trade yes or no. Transaction done. |
ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
227
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
As you can have 3 characters on an account, doesn't the loyalty rank cover all of them, rather than just the main one used?
I see the rank come up before my alt's name in the killfeed.
I'll check when I get home.
CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot.
--Cellar Door
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
2472
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:59:00 -
[86] - Quote
How many clicks to trade a single item? |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2247
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:00:00 -
[87] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Well, looks like nobody will be getting any of my stuff because of the fee. It's not really about the ISK because I have no problem giving ISK away even if it takes me below 1k. I try to be a generous person and most of my stuff I was planning on just giving away because I won't use it and I don't care about the ISK, but with this fee I'm being punished for being a nice guy. On the other hand even if I were to "sell" them I'm sure as hell ain't about to pay a fee when there is absolutely no guarantee that I'm not going to get ripped off.
So fck that noise, I just won't "trade". I wouldn't put much stock on the image until CCP makes a clear statement on how fees will work.
I don't care how the fee works, if there's a fee I'm not going to do it. Because either I'm being punished for helping or I'm paying for the chance to get screwed. Fck that.
Roy Ventus wrote:I expect this system to lead a makeshift Bounty-System. People posting bounties somewhere and then others posting pics of them killing the target several times and get the ISK in trading.
We've had the give ISK option for a really long time so that makeshift bounty-system already happened just not that many people that care enough and/or have enough ISK to set bounties on people.
It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
6243
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:02:00 -
[88] - Quote
The requirement for Loyalty Rank 4 to have access to Player to Player trading seems very steep for anyone who does not purchase AUR.
As an alternative, how about Loyalty Rank 4 or Faction Standing of 4 in Faction Warfare. (The FW Standing Rank requirement can be higher than 4 if necessary to tune it to the appropriate level of effort.)
This will provide a way for players to grind to get access to Player to Player trading in a predictable way (as AUR is the only component of Loyalty Rank that people can quantify.)
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Brush Master
Onslaught Inc
1504
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:35:00 -
[89] - Quote
I would say any rank should be able to receive items. Only Rank 3 or above could send items. That way you can still sell to new players, there is no restriction on ISK sending.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
@dustreports
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Kierkegaard Soren
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
760
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:15:00 -
[90] - Quote
Deep Joy. Well done CCP, and thank you.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
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Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1127
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:17:00 -
[91] - Quote
ANAHEIM Darko wrote:As you can have 3 characters on an account, doesn't the loyalty rank cover all of them, rather than just the main one used?
I see the rank come up before my alt's name in the killfeed.
I'll check when I get home.
It does. Both Edau and Bherin are Loyalty Rank 8
Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0
Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0
Commando gk.0
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DozersMouse XIII
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
1024
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:18:00 -
[92] - Quote
level 4 is just too much.
should be level 2 because the new players will have a hard time getting there even.
Shotgun me once, shame on me
Shotgun me twice, scans on you
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3371
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:58:00 -
[93] - Quote
First iteration of player trading DOES come with Officer weapons trading!?..... Oh I love you guys when you do awesome stuff like this!
YAY! Trading!
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
SCV Ready!
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Avallo Kantor
620
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:13:00 -
[94] - Quote
Is it possible to only restrict certain items from being traded if below Loyalty Rank 4 instead of all trades?
For example: Let's say the exploit it stop Officer Items, Warbarge Components, and BPOs from being traded from new accounts for the purposes of gaming the system.
Just make it so that those items cannot be traded, instead of trading not being allowed at all.
This can be done 2 ways:
1) If you trade one item / quantity at a time, just grey out that Trade option for those items.
2) If you can trade multiple items per single trade action, just filter the list of items the player can choose from to restrict items you wish to prevent. |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4395
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:10:00 -
[95] - Quote
I'm still surpised/disappointed by one thing.
Barter is a rather easy way to exchange items, i don't understand why it will not be implemented.
It's like that you want mandatory scam.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1087
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:12:00 -
[96] - Quote
im rank 11. To those that say that only have bought 10-20k Aurum since open beta how freaking cheap can you be? that is only ten dollars. No wonder most of you are rank 3-5.
AE. Ringing fee. 2 isk.
yahoo is full of fcking racists dumb knts.
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The Lion ElJonson
1st Legion The Dark Angels
Learning Alliance
106
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:23:00 -
[97] - Quote
The whole I send you this shiny bit then hope you send me the isk is cut throat, it should be I,all send you item for x amount like a market in game purchase. This could rip corporations apart if a deal went sour
The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
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lateriss
ObscuriLateris
47
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:26:00 -
[98] - Quote
Hell yea!!!!! Keep it coming !!!!
GëíGïüGëí
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Peter Hanther
Kottentale Solutions
100
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:34:00 -
[99] - Quote
Who is going to start a yelp service for Dust Mercs. Identifying lying liars who lie will be very important
How can Kottentale Solutions help you?
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2247
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:36:00 -
[100] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:im rank 11. To those that say that only have bought 10-20k Aurum since open beta how freaking cheap can you be? that is only ten dollars. No wonder most of you are rank 3-5. Apart from being a bunch of noncontributing cry babies you are unappreciative cry babies too. Im happy that i will be able to trade officer weapons and suits..
I've spent $120 on this game and I'm only rank 7 though I am about 3/4th of the way to 8. Was at rank 6 & half way to 7 when they were introduced and at that point I had only spent $20; so what is it, a hundred dollars a level (I really don't know how much Aur has an impact on it)?
It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1088
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
Thumb Green wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:im rank 11. To those that say that only have bought 10-20k Aurum since open beta how freaking cheap can you be? that is only ten dollars. No wonder most of you are rank 3-5. Apart from being a bunch of noncontributing cry babies you are unappreciative cry babies too. Im happy that i will be able to trade officer weapons and suits.. I've spent $120 on this game and I'm only rank 7 though I am about 3/4th of the way to 8. Was at rank 6 & half way to 7 when they were introduced and at that point I had only spent $20; so what is it, a hundred dollars a level (I really don't know how much Aur has an impact on it)? there are a few people who are rank 12 and 13. To me that is crazy. I like to call them the sugar daddy's. At rank 11 not even 75 bucks is enough to get you half way to rank 12.
AE. Ringing fee. 2 isk.
yahoo is full of fcking racists dumb knts.
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2247
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:05:00 -
[102] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:im rank 11. To those that say that only have bought 10-20k Aurum since open beta how freaking cheap can you be? that is only ten dollars. No wonder most of you are rank 3-5. Apart from being a bunch of noncontributing cry babies you are unappreciative cry babies too. Im happy that i will be able to trade officer weapons and suits.. I've spent $120 on this game and I'm only rank 7 though I am about 3/4th of the way to 8. Was at rank 6 & half way to 7 when they were introduced and at that point I had only spent $20; so what is it, a hundred dollars a level (I really don't know how much Aur has an impact on it)? there are a few people who are rank 12 and 13. To me that is crazy. I like to call them the sugar daddy's. At rank 11 not even 75 bucks is enough to get you half way to rank 12.
Good lord, I'd call them fcking insane. Idk, I guess I'm just a stingy sumbitch.
It's hard to believe I was once one of the biggest fanboys Dust had.
Rated [TV-MA]
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2208
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:36:00 -
[103] - Quote
Sleepy Shadow wrote:
CCP, would you like to enlighten us on how long does it take to reach rank 4 by just playing the game? No AUR, just playing. And weGÇÖre not talking about no-lifing that crap, no, just few hours a day. How many wins and logins? So in essence, what is the expected waiting time for a new player to start trading items?
This is the only question that matters.
Answer is?
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
I GÖú Puppies
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
944
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Posted - 2015.04.15 21:54:00 -
[104] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:
CCP, would you like to enlighten us on how long does it take to reach rank 4 by just playing the game? No AUR, just playing. And weGÇÖre not talking about no-lifing that crap, no, just few hours a day. How many wins and logins? So in essence, what is the expected waiting time for a new player to start trading items?
This is the only question that matters. Answer is?
1 win awards 3 points to the total
1 login awards 1 point as taken by a test of mine
1 Aurum awards 1/2 a point
So if you win say you play 2 hours a day. Say you have the Scotty we know and love. Queres take 1 min on average, maybe 2.
So matches are 22 mins long on average for a Skirm or Dom. You play 6 matches a day.
Around 12 points daily from battles if not more, 20 daily. 100 days to get 2000 points. Pretty long grind I believe. Again, these are my numbers, so don't believe them too much... 07
Honestly though, why not fund the game?
"There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner
*The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven *
SWBF Trailer April
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Nevyn Tazinas
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2015.04.15 22:57:00 -
[105] - Quote
501st Headstrong wrote:
1 win awards 3 points to the total
1 login awards 1 point as taken by a test of mine
1 Aurum awards 1/2 a point
So if you win say you play 2 hours a day. Say you have the Scotty we know and love. Queres take 1 min on average, maybe 2.
So matches are 22 mins long on average for a Skirm or Dom. You play 6 matches a day.
Around 12 points daily from battles if not more, 20 daily. 100 days to get 2000 points. Pretty long grind I believe. Again, these are my numbers, so don't believe them too much... 07
Honestly though, why not fund the game?
Your numbers are pretty high on the win side. If you play 6 matches a day every day, you should expect 3 wins, so 9 points + 1 from log in = 10 a day. So if you can play every single day for 2 hours (or make up for it on weekends), that's actually 200 days to make 2000 points.
How many points total is Level 4? I can't find it listed anywhere
But basically if you don't pay you had better be a Beta player to have gotten level 4 unlocked, or play 40+ hours a week.
It's way too high a limit and is an obvious cash grab, nothing to do with preventing abuse. Requiring 1 rank would do just fine for stopping all the abuses, since even that requires either a lot of time or serious play. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
2733
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:01:00 -
[106] - Quote
My loyalty rank is 2/3 of the way to 13.
As to Rank, age of character has no relationship to rank as far as I know, its based on time spent playing the game, WP earned during that time, number of kills and yes how much money you've spent in the game.
The last time I checked, which you can if you send a support ticket asking for the details, my total game play is close to 1600 hrs since the move to TQ. I've passively boosted throughout most of that time so I've spent a far bit of Aur. But then I've rarely had as much fun or pleasure playing a game than I have with Dust.
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Cadejos Unit 85
CARTEL LATINO
Astroya Conglomerate.
1
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:09:00 -
[107] - Quote
Terry Webber wrote:Aw, yeah! I'm gonna get stinkin' rich after this comes out!
Did you notice that the Trade has a fee that you will have to pay? XD
The other guy better gay good money for the good stuff :P |
Koldy Lyte Marven
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:41:00 -
[108] - Quote
Quote:To prevent alt-farming and other exploitative behavior, we will be limiting all trades to mercenaries with Loyalty Rank 4 or higher. Loyalty Ranks can be earned easily through normal gameplay such as logging in, fighting and winning battles, and earning War Points, but doing so with multiple alt-accounts should prove exhausting and virtually impossible.
That means us poor veterans (yes I qualifiy myself as a veteran) will have to wait YEARS before we can finally trade. It's unfair, it is like saying : Buy aurums if you want to unlock the trade feature faster...
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1191
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:02:00 -
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"Loyalty Ranks can be earned easily through normal gameplay such as logging in, fighting and winning battles, and earning War Points, but doing so with multiple alt-accounts should prove exhausting and virtually impossible."
Lol at that part.
GG CCP!!! You have a quarter of my trust back!
Gassault Galogi Galsent
Open Beta Vet - 41 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
80
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:22:00 -
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A little disappointed about the loyalty rank business but I can deal. All the naysayers said it would never happen. Better late than never but I guess. Now we can hope for a port to PS4 when Sony announces PS5. YEEEEES!!!!!! #bringbackthewarbarge
CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/wallpapers/MCC-Staging-Area/MCC-Staging-Area-wallpaper_940x529.jpg[/img] Fellow Mercs, CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
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Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:04:00 -
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Happy, but dissapointed at the same time. My loyalty rank is 5, so Im happy about this, but all of my friends, who started the game like two years after me, what about them? I was really looking forward to trade things with them, giving them the suits I didnt use and receiving those they didnt use.
Besides, as many other said already, its not that easy to "level up" with this loyalty thing. When the loyalty ranks were introduced, I was a 5 (sergeant mayor). Now? Still 5, not even that close to the half to get level 6, I still need 20246 points.
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Soul Eater II
New Eden's Army
13
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:19:00 -
[112] - Quote
Sweet!
CEO of New Eden's Army
One Badass Heavy
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
790
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:49:00 -
[113] - Quote
I hate you 50% of the time, this time is not that fifty percent.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment, Free BPOs!
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
329
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Posted - 2015.04.16 04:01:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:YAY! but no BPO trading? boo but still happpy for the feature It's for the best that doesn't happen on day one in case of bugs. I would rather lose my BPOs to a scam than to an in-game glitch.
you know that? I didnt even think of that good catch but still one could hope right LOL either way id be pissed if i lost BPO i finnaly got my frist quafe too
Moo?
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Le Moo?
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jonny battles
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
27
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Posted - 2015.04.16 07:40:00 -
[115] - Quote
Ive been playing this game solid for a year and a half and spent over $250 on this game and I'm only level 8 loyalty rank is definitely to high
It was just that easy
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ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
239
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Posted - 2015.04.16 08:26:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:ANAHEIM Darko wrote:As you can have 3 characters on an account, doesn't the loyalty rank cover all of them, rather than just the main one used?
I see the rank come up before my alt's name in the killfeed.
I'll check when I get home. It does. Both Edau and Bherin are Loyalty Rank 8
So alt farming will be completely fine on the same PSN account, as any alt I create will automatically be level 9 loyalty rank?
How does this prevent me farming warbarge components, ISK or boosters?
CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot.
--Cellar Door
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Eldest Dragon
Nos Nothi
481
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Posted - 2015.04.16 11:03:00 -
[117] - Quote
Finally ccp, thank you so much, been waiting for like 3 years lol |
Nevyn Tazinas
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2015.04.16 11:43:00 -
[118] - Quote
ANAHEIM Darko wrote:
So alt farming will be completely fine on the same PSN account, as any alt I create will automatically be level 9 loyalty rank?
How does this prevent me farming warbarge components, ISK or boosters?
I can say for sure that alts on the same account do not all add towards the same loyalty rank. Aur purchases may add to all of them at once, but the log ins, and matches played/won apply to individual characters, I checked mine as I only run 1 PSN account.
However even if you could, it's still limited 'farming' since you can only use 2 alts to support your main, so that's hardly a significant impact. Though I guess repeated cycling of the alt for it's boosters could be abused if boosters are tradable. Maybe making boosters non tradable is worth it. Or make them only gifted to the first character created on an account, not every alt. |
ANAHEIM Darko
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
241
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Posted - 2015.04.16 11:51:00 -
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Nevyn Tazinas wrote:
I can say for sure that alts on the same account do not all add towards the same loyalty rank. Aur purchases may add to all of them at once, but the log ins, and matches played/won apply to individual characters, I checked mine as I only run 1 PSN account.
However even if you could, it's still limited 'farming' since you can only use 2 alts to support your main, so that's hardly a significant impact. Though I guess repeated cycling of the alt for it's boosters could be abused if boosters are tradable. Maybe making boosters non tradable is worth it. Or make them only gifted to the first character created on an account, not every alt.
Really? I've logged in on 2 alts, clicked on 'Loyalty Rank' and it's shown the same as my main? Granted, I buy Aur. Whilst the impact may not be huge, it's 3 times as many components and experimental weapons, if these are tradeable, boosters aside.
CalAss Grunt. Former Eve Pilot.
--Cellar Door
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
340
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Posted - 2015.04.16 13:36:00 -
[120] - Quote
I am smiling.
However I noticed at the bottom of the devblog it said that player trading will only be allowed between those at loyalty rank 4 and above.
I am at rank 4 (2-3yrs old DUST main character) and have spent $3-$4 on DUST514. (hope that helps players not lose ALL hope)
I do however believe that players at rank 2 or 3 and above should be allowed to trade anything.
If many players are not rank 4 currently, perhaps the rank system has an error in it due to human programming error. (maybe CCP accidentally added an extra 0 to the total amount of points needed for rank 4?) |
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
431
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Posted - 2015.04.16 14:05:00 -
[121] - Quote
I wonder if players with rank 4 and Lower can be recipients of items given. I was planning on giving items to random people. Who wants a 100 militia ion pistols.
It other news the market agent you sold to some mercs was a double F you. Haha. I knew it was a scam like most **** on here. And scamming is a way of life in eve I guess... player trading> Jara . Unless you don't wanna take a chance on being scammed or life as a hermit is more your thing. Or ur 12 and horny. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1635
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Posted - 2015.04.16 14:49:00 -
[122] - Quote
ANAHEIM Darko wrote:Nevyn Tazinas wrote:
I can say for sure that alts on the same account do not all add towards the same loyalty rank. Aur purchases may add to all of them at once, but the log ins, and matches played/won apply to individual characters, I checked mine as I only run 1 PSN account.
However even if you could, it's still limited 'farming' since you can only use 2 alts to support your main, so that's hardly a significant impact. Though I guess repeated cycling of the alt for it's boosters could be abused if boosters are tradable. Maybe making boosters non tradable is worth it. Or make them only gifted to the first character created on an account, not every alt.
Really? I've logged in on 2 alts, clicked on 'Loyalty Rank' and it's shown the same as my main? Granted, I buy Aur. Whilst the impact may not be huge, it's 3 times as many components and experimental weapons, if these are tradeable, boosters aside.
Damn, I never even realised this, lol. I never use my main account ALTs, they are just CEOs. If they were allowed passive then most players wouldn't have other (farmable) accounts CCP, you do know that right? Also, I never would've put my other Templar sets on different PSN accounts which, due to this BS LR4 trading aspect, have now been wasted since I can't get them off of the ALTs.
I never had the intention of farming components and stuff (I rarely even log into my ALTs and I don't even think comp's should be tradeable) but now, in protest of LR4 trading, I will be farming my 2 main account ALTS as much as possible.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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Mr.Pepe Le Pew
Art.of.Death
57
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:08:00 -
[123] - Quote
"Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!"
Great job CCP! :D
CEO / Art.of.Death
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1622
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Posted - 2015.04.16 15:20:00 -
[124] - Quote
Thinking about the loyalty rank thing. i wonder if it should be a timed restriction more than a level thats near impossible to reach without spending a fortune on the game. In EVE you can't send isk or contracts and train certain skills while on a trial account so perhaps restrict trading to chars older than 90days or so? its a mechanic that can help new players get both equipment and spare isk by selling stuff they perhaps can't or don't use to corp mates yet loyalty 4 is pretty high to get to. I have an alt i pay very frequently and have spent a bit extra cash on to get merc pack and the guristas saga bpo code ect and even though he's over 2yr old he's still not level 4 yet either.
i understand that there is a need to limit alt farming but the extent required to train is almost turning it to a pay to win as if you don't invest in RL cash or a huge amount of time then an important and basic aspect of the game is taken away from you. or perhaps another shortcut would be that you have to be loyalty level 4 OR own Jara which instantly allows trading
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
752
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:14:00 -
[125] - Quote
I don't have alt accounts, but why would anyone care if someone wants to use alt accounts?
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.16 16:24:00 -
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The easiet solution would be mark certain items as untradable.
New player active booster? Just rename it or make it slightly different from normal boosters and mark it.
Warbarge components? Mark them.
Keys? Keys are actually gained via playthrough, i don't see any problem in trading them
Newsletter stuff? As far as i know you can't redeem old stuff with new subs. But from now on you can mark valuable stuff (boosters, officer stuff) as untradable.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
5
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Posted - 2015.04.16 19:03:00 -
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Honestly it should be like pokemon. You can't trade one pokemon without the other offering his. So as such, one player offer said payment or item, it sits in trading area until other player offers payment or item for payment, transaction goes through, both people happy.
Or, animal crossing, have items "put up" in a traders market, someone pays, bingity bang bang boom, sold. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11496
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Posted - 2015.04.16 20:21:00 -
[128] - Quote
DaemonVok wrote:Honestly it should be like pokemon. You can't trade one pokemon without the other offering his. So as such, one player offer said payment or item, it sits in trading area until other player offers payment or item for payment, transaction goes through, both people happy.
Or, animal crossing, have items "put up" in a traders market, someone pays, bingity bang bang boom, sold.
Ever heard of rip offs in Eve Online? We do this all the time in Eve Online regardless of the transaction being secure. All I have to do is exploit the laziness of players to properly read a decimal point in a number and post the offer on the contracts market. Let's say I post a contract to want to buy a unit of PLEX that's worth 875,000,000.00 ISK (note the decimal) but mark the contract payment as 8,750,000.00 ISK Anyone who is too lazy to spot the discrepancy in the price would click "ACCEPT" and end up with only 8.75 million ISK after selling me the PLEX. Keep in mind that this is through secure channels.
Margin Trade scamming is another art but that requires a whole lecture to explain it to you. Window Trade scamming is yet another art that Eve players enjoy doing. Then there is the classic 'Navy Issue Ibis' scam which is very popular among trolls. Again, all of these utilize secure channels. The item sold and ISK paid still change hands, but either the buyer or seller get the short end of the stick.
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DaemonVok
Axis of Chaos
5
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:20:00 -
[129] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:DaemonVok wrote:Honestly it should be like pokemon. You can't trade one pokemon without the other offering his. So as such, one player offer said payment or item, it sits in trading area until other player offers payment or item for payment, transaction goes through, both people happy.
Or, animal crossing, have items "put up" in a traders market, someone pays, bingity bang bang boom, sold. Ever heard of rip offs in Eve Online? We do this all the time in Eve Online regardless of the transaction being secure. All I have to do is exploit the laziness of players to properly read a decimal point in a number and post the offer on the contracts market. Let's say I post a contract to want to buy a unit of PLEX that's worth 875,000,000.00 ISK (note the decimal) but mark the contract payment as 8,750,000.00 ISK Anyone who is too lazy to spot the discrepancy in the price would click "ACCEPT" and end up with only 8.75 million ISK after selling me the PLEX. Keep in mind that this is through secure channels. Margin Trade scamming is another art but that requires a whole lecture to explain it to you. Window Trade scamming is yet another art that Eve players enjoy doing. Then there is the classic 'Navy Issue Ibis' scam which is very popular among trolls. Again, all of these utilize secure channels. The item sold and ISK paid still change hands, but either the buyer or seller get the short end of the stick.
At least it's sorta safe. Laziness isn't OUR fault right? Lol |
Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
1186
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:29:00 -
[130] - Quote
By having the minimum level set at 4 right now it will ensure that only those with significant experience in dust will be trading at first and they will be working the bugs out.
These same ones should be smart enough to avoid being completely screwed by scammers, but at the same time they have the ability to take a lose a lot easier if they do get scammed.
I think it's smart to start at level 4 and let's see how it plays out...
Once the bugs are worked out then open it up to lower levels and such...
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
512
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:50:00 -
[131] - Quote
Do we have a date on when this will be added? |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1668
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Posted - 2015.04.18 09:39:00 -
[132] - Quote
LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Do we have a date on when this will be added?
No date, but there are only 2 weeks left in the month, so not long.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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JOSHUA621 BRADLEY
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
17
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Posted - 2015.04.18 12:25:00 -
[133] - Quote
STYLIE77 wrote:The Modern Creature wrote:Only for Loyalty Ranks 4+. And you say loyalty ranks can be earned easily? Hilarious. Just playing a character over a year and a half only took me to 2/3rds over 1. That's without paying. I'm sorry Rattati but you've gotten the 3rd tick for a total of 5. Stick this feature up your ass. So this is a feature for paying players eh? How much Aur does one need to buy to get rank 4?
  I spent 2,500 AUR and went from Loyalty rank 1 to Loyalty rank 2.
"If you want to be a HERO, Follow your Dreams and always Protect your HONOR."
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JOSHUA621 BRADLEY
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
19
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Posted - 2015.04.18 15:59:00 -
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Just an idea regarding the Loyalty Rank RESTRICTION, Instead of restricting us to Loyalty Rank, why not make it so that non active accounts can't trade items or put a restriction on trading between the same PSN account. Because I have been playing every day for 4 months now(just started playing in January 2015) and am only at Loyalty rank 2 after spending 2.5k AURUM in the game, and I only get 50-100 Loyalty points a day from winning battles, logging in, etc. The only way to get a Loyalty rank of 4 without play for over a year is to spend a lot of AURUM and some of us enjoy playing the game but don't have extra money to buy AURUM all the time.
"If you want to be a HERO, Follow your Dreams and always Protect your HONOR."
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
3381
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Posted - 2015.04.19 10:58:00 -
[135] - Quote
JOSHUA621 BRADLEY wrote:Just an idea regarding the Loyalty Rank RESTRICTION, Instead of restricting us to Loyalty Rank, why not make it so that non active accounts can't trade items or put a restriction on trading between the same PSN account. Because I have been playing every day for 4 months now(just started playing in January 2015) and am only at Loyalty rank 2 after spending 2.5k AURUM in the game, and I only get 50-100 Loyalty points a day from winning battles, logging in, etc. The only way to get a Loyalty rank of 4 without play for over a year is to spend a lot of AURUM and some of us enjoy playing the game but don't have extra money to buy AURUM all the time.
Yea I had hoped that there would be another way for young but still involved players to get a hand in trading.
If its possible for older players like myself to trade on your behalf then I will do man :)
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
57
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Posted - 2015.04.19 14:51:00 -
[136] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:JOSHUA621 BRADLEY wrote:Just an idea regarding the Loyalty Rank RESTRICTION, Instead of restricting us to Loyalty Rank, why not make it so that non active accounts can't trade items or put a restriction on trading between the same PSN account. Because I have been playing every day for 4 months now(just started playing in January 2015) and am only at Loyalty rank 2 after spending 2.5k AURUM in the game, and I only get 50-100 Loyalty points a day from winning battles, logging in, etc. The only way to get a Loyalty rank of 4 without play for over a year is to spend a lot of AURUM and some of us enjoy playing the game but don't have extra money to buy AURUM all the time. Yea I had hoped that there would be another way for young but still involved players to get a hand in trading. If its possible for older players like myself to trade on your behalf then I will do man :)
That seems nice...
I am the Clown of Ass or am I the Ass of Clown... o.O
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:08:00 -
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Just informing you CCP... I have a max daily bonus over 580days and have a game every day atleast now and im rank 3... please buff point acquisition or nerf the requirements. Its not 'easy' to get those points by logging in daily or anything like that when i use to be a player that capped 3accounts weekly and continued playing on my main 'Inmortal Slayer' and after 580+ daily bonus and not missing a single day since that update not missing out on any event that i think is worth to sit down and play for hours through . but still rank 3 4000points to go. that will need to be grinded like hell to get to 4. please change the requirements to xdays played cause what will people farm alts for? ars or something well they would farm the dailys isk and just buy them..... reconsiders the resurrections.
AKA:Wings,Wingman,Inmortal,Slayer,Frist,Fristname,ThatWeirdGuy,Mumbles
PREPARE THE BATTLE HAMMOCK AND PURPLE GARDEN HOSE
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
521
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:24:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Just informing you CCP... I have a max daily bonus over 580days and have a game every day atleast now and im rank 3... please buff point acquisition or nerf the requirements. Its not 'easy' to get those points by logging in daily or anything like that when i use to be a player that capped 3accounts weekly and continued playing on my main 'Inmortal Slayer' and after 580+ daily bonus and not missing a single day since that update not missing out on any event that i think is worth to sit down and play for hours through . but still rank 3 4000points to go. that will need to be grinded like hell to get to 4. please change the requirements to xdays played cause what will people farm alts for? ars or something well they would farm the dailys isk and just buy them..... reconsiders the resurrections.
Just spend 8000 AUR.
On a serious note holy crap I knew that gain outside of AUR spending was bad but wow.
I am now firmly on the side of changing this limitation. All this is doing is locking it to the point of making farming possible for people that are willing to shell out some money on being able to alt farm.
Once boosters can be traded we can just buy boosters on our alts and send them to our main. Limiting alt farming to paying people in this fashion is not pay to win but it really not good for the community as a whole.
I would say that trading needs to be limited to players who have played a certain number of battles or something that is actually related to participation and not just if you are either lucky enough to have been here for a long time or are willing to spend money on that character.
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Brightness Fullheart
Eternal Beings
0
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:25:00 -
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I've been playing dust for more than a year and ask anyone that has played with me or against me, I am a good player. Tho I'm only loyalty rank level 3 and CCP is saying I won't be able to do the player trade which is bull. It's not fair that people who use freakin aur are like rank 8 on all their characters and someone who carved their path without the use of real money can't trade with everyone else. CCP Logic |
Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
94
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Just informing you CCP... I have a max daily bonus over 580days and have a game every day atleast now and im rank 3... please buff point acquisition or nerf the requirements.
Removed because max characters . Removed the quote because i hit max characters
I personally think they should have it so both players MUST be online at the same time. this will limit alt farming (cant see much benifit as i already can just grind my 4 accounts for daily mission isk and dump it into a pile to move around between them if i wanted but i see no point as after hitting x-mill isk there is not much point in caring how much your stuff cost as you know you can easily grind a ambush with your cheaper ft and get 1mll+ in a few hours or less.
So what is the benefits of alt farming?
The only benefit would be transferring gear as i have said. If there's a limited time suit that lots of people want its gonna be worth more money (thus people will be willing to trade/scam/pay more, trade their valuables or scam more- i will come back to scamming and how to fix it) then if people had alts and want more money or gear they have run out of such as officer gear (by money im referring to isk) and that suit was once given out to all players or previously on a daily mission they had then they will get heaps of money/good gear until people find another way of getting it (this is pretty much average player trading economy in most MMORPG games) i would like to move my officer gear my main cant use to alts that can ect but ohwell i guess its no biggie ill just horde them and sell them for a bigger profit with my own plans for the trading update.
I guess i more positive thing is that also new players would benefit from vets 'donating' (yes being nice like some of them are) gear to new mercs to get them started and could lead to the vet taking a few new players under their wing every so often and just distributing their standard/advanced gear and advice on it ect (maybe i don't know most of the players who i know are good players/vets too well I just know their name and assume they wouldn't wanna squad with me so yeah)
and of course spending more AUR (i hate to put this here but for CCP's sake i will as im sure alot of players who arent willing to speak up about it will just rush out and get AUR to quickly level up their rank just for the trading. feels a bit sad that its gonna become either you play and cap every week/spend AUR to get rank 4 so you can have a little fun with trading or you just stay a weekend warrior and never get to trade a single item in your life in Dust 514...)
Negatives Of Player Trading
Well ill just start with the obvious, in the early stages (a few months maybe 3 or 5months max... hopefully) NO ONE (yes no one) will know the value of ANYTHING. here is an example using Steve- a vet player i came up with (not a real player)
and Jim (some guy who plays Dust and isn't a frequent user of forums and only rarely checks them and is not the brightest crayon in the box) Quote: Steve: hey look you got the valentines quafe suit from last year. Jim- yeah they are pretty aren't they. Steve- ill give you my 50limited edition 2.0 something something blue modules which are no longer available and haven't been for over a year and a half for 50 of those suits. Jim- Hmmm... i dont know... ive heard rumors of people scamming others, but if you throw in 100k isk you've got a deal. Steve- sure thing (owning over 500mill he laughs at Jim behind his muted mic) *they continue with the trade and Jim unaware that he is a bit of a silly billy just lost him self a few hundred/thousand AUR (lets say 8000 AUR was spent on the suits) or in real money if he bought a 10,000 AUR pack it would be $7.55 Australian dollars. meanwhile Steve is walking in his merc house in a pretty pink suit which he then distributes to a few of his close friends and they form a squad named pink death kiss and laugh at the fact that Jim was dumb. yes i know it may have dragged on (and with those blue mods i dont know when they were around but yeah just an example of noob being scammed kinda ) but the point is that will be kinda what goes on for the initial stages of the trade or otherwise a bunch of people get scammed and mark the scammers of New Eden (whom are just accounts set up by people who are vets or meanies who scam everyone and move the loot to their main) and that is if they implement this next paragraph
My Proposed Ways To Limit Exploits And The Pure Forum Spam Of Crying From People Whom Have Been Scammed
and yes the 2nd part of the title of this paragraph i would bet alot of money on that it will happen for a little while atleast.
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AKA:Wings,Wingman,Inmortal,Slayer,Frist,Fristname,ThatWeirdGuy,Mumbles
PREPARE THE BATTLE HAMMOCK AND PURPLE GARDEN HOSE
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Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.20 06:53:00 -
[141] - Quote
If they implement something like a few MMORPG games i know of use (i dont play MMORPG's often but yeah there is alot with the system im about to explain) where both players must be online at the time of the trade and they enter a trading screen when both parties (player A & player B) agree to the trade request. After the request has been excepted both parties then select the item/items (currency, gear or whatever) and when both players have agreed on the proposed offers the trade commences and the message saying 'Trade Successful' or something like that will appear and they are done.
(i will continue this later on but i hit character limit for now and i think i need a little rest for an hour or so. also the next few things will be regarding the ranks and other restrictions along with something you can actually do to prevent scams if victims have evidence and the scammer is a repeat offender and/or is exploiting the game/trade mechanics or new players experience of the game by exploiting their lack of in game knowledge. also maybe something else if i can think of more that can be, no it SHOULD BE improved because i was thinking "oh boy player trading" had a look "WTF is this.. just send isk but with gear.. its like they want us to be scammed"
Just a little thing i edited in to say to everyone here about why im even bothering with these suggestions and stating things
what i want to attempt to achieve is to actually make a contribution and hopefully be listened to and get some other people realizing that this trading system is not as good as it could be. i know CCP 'may' have worked its slaves to the bone to get this up and running but im kinda hoping that it can be made into something alot better. and maybe even have a public market place down the road for Dust (or at least in legion) i just know i wouldn't feel comfortable trading my gear first to some complete random because i wouldn't trust them. any way im going to try and contribute to this more because all i want is for my game to become better than it is. By making a good player trading we are now even better than destiny than we previously were (lets face it that game is bad) but we still wont have a 'good' player trading system it would be something i expect to see in a Call Of Duty or Battlefield game at the moment. CCP lets see what you can really do to make this trading system for the players rather than for the money so we can actually use it and trust the people we are trading with and hope for the best :D
(i had over the limit apparently still so i cut this out and am posting it separate as you can see :P )
also i might write the next part tomorrow or tonight depending on if i watch anime or not.
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:29:00 -
[142] - Quote
Alright lets get right into this. my main account is currently at 'Corporal' (Rank 3 in loyalty rank), anyone who is in a higher rank may be completely unaware of the amount if time needed to pass rank 3. i think it would require roughly 9000/10,000 points to clear as i am a little past half way and still require 4,322 points to get to the next rank. Now that account is over 1year old and has at the moment i write this 36,460,722sp and over 1,300,000 life time wp and well over 1000games played (i use to play for over 50hours a week if i wasn't doing much and that was alot, so i would say if you checked my total playtime CCP (please don and tell me the answer i am curious about it) it would most likely be over 5months of playtime. I also have a positive kdr and a 595 consecutive daily bonus and i dont plan on losing that anytime soon. (now to you all who have 'lives' that is currently the maximum daily bonus available on the current date of 21/4/2015 (or 4/21/2015 if your American) and i earn points per day for collecting my bonus) now taking this all into consideration i have spent $0 on the game and have thought about it but most likely never will. now lets see how this adds up to me only being level 3. im already going to assume i most likely get +1 point/per every day you play so even with my 595dayily bonus I receive +1 point rather than any stacking effect happening or at least a +6 for the max bonus. (by max bonus here i am referring to the reward of 6consecutive days) now anyway how does this all added up only put me at rank 3? i have no idea, something like spending AUR most likely would raise your points by something like 10/1AUR. I'm not saying to change this but why would you think making the trading require rank 3 when a majority of 'weekend warriors' don't play enough or don't spend any real money in the game which instantly results in someone who plays for lets say 4-15hours on one day of the weekend and then x2 = total game play in a week with no days off work or whatever they do during the week would have only played roughly between 8-30hours in a week. no matter how good or how long these weekend warriors have been around there is almost no chance that they would be able to access player trading within their Dust life unless they buy AUR. also with this note of AUR=insta rank up pretty much whats to stop people from spending real money to farm alts? or is this not a problem as its making you a profit? A much more appropriate way of limiting the player trading is by adding restrictions to the amount of trading accounts can do such as the following.
- If player has under x (i would say between 50-100 is fair) days, player cannot send items to other players (so only receives gear cannot send gear and all players would be aware of restrictions when sending items via i color code or message that appears with what the player cannot do in the trading system when another player goes to send them something (prior to selecting items to send because players often spam x alot of the time and the box must be closed by pushing left and then x to insure players know what is happening rather than expecting something in return then complaining they had no idea they were unable to send back)
- possibly only players above x sp (with today's sp gain i would say 10mill but i would have to say 4-5mill is fair for the newer players when/if they come but 10mill would be better in my opinion) would be able to sen (so pretty much same thing as last mail except rather than merc age its sp)
- possibly kills or war points would be another way to implement the restrictions previously mentioned.
- players who have not logged in for 50days+ are unable to receive items. (to prevent sending items to inactive characters and to never receive items back) if a player whom was inactive for 50+days logs in again they will be unable to trade for x days. or without logging in x amount of days within x amount of time.
- A player who has had a temp ban in game (possibly on the forums if it has occurred numerous times) they have a temp on trading.
they are about it for the restrictions i had in mind.
and on another note i noticed someone said something refrencing to animal crossing how you list your item and it goes into a separate section of the market place where players can search for their desired item and the player whom listed it will have a set price or possible trades he wants to do along with an option to message the player. that way of trading is much more efficient then the one proposed by CCP so far but may be difficult for them to set it up. although the players are excited for the trading i hope they are able to realize that you have to make it above average before releasing the feature and im sure they will be able to wait. The system for trading which would be used for the actual trading of gear which would work best would be the 'Pokemon' way which i mentioned in a earlier post that alot of MMORPG's use is the best. both players show gear both players accept trade happens everyone's happy no rip offs unless its your own mistake such as carelessness or lack of value knowledge.
600 characters left i will add another tomorrow.
by the way CCP im pretty sure you have read these so far and i would actually really like to know if you would consider making alot of these changes to the trading system and possibly postpone the release if it is required to completely overhaul the thing and make it better than it is.
Cya 
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Gyn Wallace
Ready to Play
335
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:06:00 -
[143] - Quote
"We expect trusted merchants to start offering their services, which is a fascinating subject in and of its own, and we will be adding a Player Trading section to the DUST 514 forums for you all to make and discuss your trades."
If you haven't implemented a notification system that includes something like an automated evemail when someone "gifts" something to me, as a middleman or clearing house, you absolutely shouldn't expect players like me, generally willing to pick up that kind of slack in this game's market features, to eagerly put our noses down to the task of turning this particular grinding wheel.
I've no plans to offer escrow or trading services prior to your announcing a notification system that would even mildly mitigate the hassle of trying to operate a business within the currently described system.
I'm trying to imagine verifying receipt of an item or stack of items from someone to facilitate a trade, without manually tracking my entire asset inventory constantly. There is no profitable, honest business opportunity here. Everyone pretending to be a businessman under this simple "trading" model, absent some kind of notification system, will either be a masochist or a scammer.
Thank you for your efforts and progress; but no thank you, if you're presenting this an a business opportunity for middlemen like me,
-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo
The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:02:00 -
[144] - Quote
https://instagram.com/p/wD6uU3oiqd/?taken-by=shooterwilliamson
this is how alot of the player base has reacted and then there's me complaining about it.
but honestly CCP you cant use loyalty rank 4 for the requirements just change it to total playtime/sp/kills/games won or character age.. weekend warriors and new players will never be able to use trading otherwise.
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SHOOT HIM NOTIME
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.04.24 22:00:00 -
[145] - Quote
Hmm I love the idea of player trading but you should make it too were you can trade something of equal value or agreed apon isk trade to prevent the scamming issue .
Ak.0...Scr VizamBEWARE OF THE SHOOT HIM =ƒÿ+=ƒæî=ƒæê
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:42:00 -
[146] - Quote
SHOOT HIM NOTIME wrote:Hmm I love the idea of player trading but you should make it too were you can trade something of equal value or agreed apon isk trade to prevent the scamming issue .
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trade
this i the trading system they should use (i couldnt find a defiance screen shot and cant be bothered taking a pic and uploading it then linking it cause im playing Dust :P )
or this one
http://www.wowwiki.com/Auction_House might work if CCP can do it
but i would properly be accused if scamming cause people will send me stuff or money and i wont send back cause i didnt know they sent XD
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
1105
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Posted - 2015.04.25 03:25:00 -
[147] - Quote
Brightness Fullheart wrote:I've been playing dust for more than a year and ask anyone that has played with me or against me, I am a good player. Tho I'm only loyalty rank level 3 and CCP is saying I won't be able to do the player trade which is bull. It's not fair that people who use freakin aur are like rank 8 on all their characters and someone who carved their path without the use of real money can't trade with everyone else. CCP Logic actually your logic is quiet flawed. You are only loyalty rank 3 and has played over a year you say? How is that even possible? have you not spent at least 10 dollars to support the game? How cheap can you be. Also people that spent money do not get their loyalty rank raised throughout all characters, only one. You are not a good player ive never seen you playing planetary conquest so nice try trying to epeen.
Seriously if this is what the player base has come to LOL. Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering? whatever happened to HTFU?
AE. Ringing fee. 2 isk.
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D4GG3R
Opus Arcana
860
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Posted - 2015.04.25 03:49:00 -
[148] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:Brightness Fullheart wrote:I've been playing dust for more than a year and ask anyone that has played with me or against me, I am a good player. Tho I'm only loyalty rank level 3 and CCP is saying I won't be able to do the player trade which is bull. It's not fair that people who use freakin aur are like rank 8 on all their characters and someone who carved their path without the use of real money can't trade with everyone else. CCP Logic actually your logic is quiet flawed. You are only loyalty rank 3 and has played over a year you say? How is that even possible? have you not spent at least 10 dollars to support the game? How cheap can you be. Also people that spent money do not get their loyalty rank raised throughout all characters, only one. You are not a good player ive never seen you playing planetary conquest so nice try trying to epeen. Seriously if this is what the player base has come to LOL. Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering? whatever happened to HTFU?
Oh snap. Rekt Nerd
I'm pretty plain.
I watch anime for the boobs
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2015.04.25 05:48:00 -
[149] - Quote
Kalante Schiffer wrote:Brightness Fullheart wrote:I've been playing dust for more than a year and ask anyone that has played with me or against me, I am a good player. Tho I'm only loyalty rank level 3 and CCP is saying I won't be able to do the player trade which is bull. It's not fair that people who use freakin aur are like rank 8 on all their characters and someone who carved their path without the use of real money can't trade with everyone else. CCP Logic actually your logic is quiet flawed. You are only loyalty rank 3 and has played over a year you say? How is that even possible? have you not spent at least 10 dollars to support the game? How cheap can you be. Also people that spent money do not get their loyalty rank raised throughout all characters, only one. You are not a good player ive never seen you playing planetary conquest so nice try trying to epeen. Seriously if this is what the player base has come to LOL. Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering? whatever happened to HTFU?
I almost spent money on the game once... then i thought about it and said to my self there isnt anything worth yet.
just to make you happy ill buy the next thing i think is worth. but what about people who are new? or play 2times a week on the weekends? theres no real reason for them to bother buying AUR.
also theres no real reason to put money into the game and everything use to be cheaper in the game (by everything i mean like BPO gear and stuff). also your comment of "Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering" i can see where your coming from but what happens to the players that are new ect are they just neglected unless they buy AUR? or are they just nothing to you anyway.. the way you said what you did was a bit overkill and there was nothing saying "people who give us money get special treatment" ever.
maybe they should have a sale on AUR maybe get 10% extra with every purchase and they will sell a bunch.
and are you honestly happy with the actual scamming, i mean trading system they are going to use? The fact that its trust based and fair bit of people in this game would scam you at any chance they get i would rather have the release postponed for as long as they need to make it better than to have a long list of complaints from baby's losing their BPO's because they think everything in the transaction is correct. all i need to do is add a decimal into the number and if you dont spot it then your out millions of isk or because they sent their gear 1st.
ill have to go buy a psn card tho... i want myself some passive sp boosters and BPO gear if they are looking good enough still.
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Rowdy Rambo
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.04.26 20:08:00 -
[150] - Quote
Dammit,I have been excited for this for some time now and have already fixed some deals only to find out that my loyalty rank 2 cant trade?!?My loyalty rank is only 2 since i had a kind of long break before and sometime after this was introduced.Would have been nice if loyalty rank was determined taking into consideration all the things i did before it was introduced.
I admit that im not the best player but i sure have played a lot of matches.
Hopefully CCP might find a criteria better than loyalty rank to secure player trade from scams like say lifetime war points. |
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
450
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Posted - 2015.04.28 05:11:00 -
[151] - Quote
Fristname Family name wrote:Alright lets get right into this. my main account is currently at 'Corporal' (Rank 3 in loyalty rank), anyone who is in a higher rank may be completely unaware of the amount if time needed to pass rank 3. i think it would require roughly 9000/10,000 points to clear as i am a little past half way and still require 4,322 points to get to the next rank. Now that account is over 1year old and has at the moment i write this 36,460,722sp and over 1,300,000 life time wp and well over 1000games played (i use to play for over 50hours a week if i wasn't doing much and that was alot, so i would say if you checked my total playtime CCP (please don and tell me the answer i am curious about it) it would most likely be over 5months of playtime. I also have a positive kdr and a 595 consecutive daily bonus and i dont plan on losing that anytime soon. (now to you all who have 'lives' that is currently the maximum daily bonus available on the current date of 21/4/2015 (or 4/21/2015 if your American) and i earn points per day for collecting my bonus) now taking this all into consideration i have spent $0 on the game and have thought about it but most likely never will. now lets see how this adds up to me only being level 3. im already going to assume i most likely get +1 point/per every day you play so even with my 595dayily bonus I receive +1 point rather than any stacking effect happening or at least a +6 for the max bonus. (by max bonus here i am referring to the reward of 6consecutive days) now anyway how does this all added up only put me at rank 3? i have no idea, something like spending AUR most likely would raise your points by something like 10/1AUR. I'm not saying to change this but why would you think making the trading require rank 3 when a majority of 'weekend warriors' don't play enough or don't spend any real money in the game which instantly results in someone who plays for lets say 4-15hours on one day of the weekend and then x2 = total game play in a week with no days off work or whatever they do during the week would have only played roughly between 8-30hours in a week. no matter how good or how long these weekend warriors have been around there is almost no chance that they would be able to access player trading within their Dust life unless they buy AUR. also with this note of AUR=insta rank up pretty much whats to stop people from spending real money to farm alts? or is this not a problem as its making you a profit? A much more appropriate way of limiting the player trading is by adding restrictions to the amount of trading accounts can do such as the following.
- If player has under x (i would say between 50-100 is fair) days, player cannot send items to other players (so only receives gear cannot send gear and all players would be aware of restrictions when sending items via i color code or message that appears with what the player cannot do in the trading system when another player goes to send them something (prior to selecting items to send because players often spam x alot of the time and the box must be closed by pushing left and then x to insure players know what is happening rather than expecting something in return then complaining they had no idea they were unable to send back)
- possibly only players above x sp (with today's sp gain i would say 10mill but i would have to say 4-5mill is fair for the newer players when/if they come but 10mill would be better in my opinion) would be able to sen (so pretty much same thing as last mail except rather than merc age its sp)
- possibly kills or war points would be another way to implement the restrictions previously mentioned.
- players who have not logged in for 50days+ are unable to receive items. (to prevent sending items to inactive characters and to never receive items back) if a player whom was inactive for 50+days logs in again they will be unable to trade for x days. or without logging in x amount of days within x amount of time.
- A player who has had a temp ban in game (possibly on the forums if it has occurred numerous times) they have a temp on trading.
they are about it for the restrictions i had in mind. and on another note i noticed someone said something refrencing to animal crossing how you list your item and it goes into a separate section of the market place where players can search for their desired item and the player whom listed it will have a set price or possible trades he wants to do along with an option to message the player. that way of trading is much more efficient then the one proposed by CCP so far but may be difficult for them to set it up. although the players are excited for the trading i hope they are able to realize that you have to make it above average before releasing the feature and im sure they will be able to wait. The system for trading which would be used for the actual trading of gear which would work best would be the 'Pokemon' way which i mentioned in a earlier post that alot of MMORPG's use is the best. both players show gear both players accept trade happens everyone's happy no rip offs unless its your own mistake such as carelessness or lack of value knowledge. 600 characters left i will add another tomorrow. by the way CCP im pretty sure you have read these so far and i would actually really like to know if you would consider making alot of these changes to the trading system and possibly postpone the release if it is required to completely overhaul the thing and make it better than it is. Cya
You spent 0 on this game. You get 0 in return. Working as intended. I didn't bother to read the rest.
$0.99. It cost more to warm up up your frozen burritos .
Send me your isk you big baby.
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Fristname Family name
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:28:00 -
[152] - Quote
well lets start off with getting some free AUR and ranking up then scam a few noobs and have some fun in the new gme mode :D
ill only scam some people who are deserving of it bjut the main issue is how can i see if someone can actually trade with me? they might promise somthing and not be able to trade and ask for isk then i cant get a item...
GLHF on everyones trading :D
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18621
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:48:00 -
[153] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/wallpapers/MCC-Staging-Area/MCC-Staging-Area-wallpaper_940x529.jpg[/img] Fellow Mercs, CCP Rattati is back once again to bring you news of one the most anticipated features of DUST 514 - Player Trading, coming to you later this month. Yes, we have finally reached this milestone, bringing us a step closer to our vision! Read on, and comment right here if you have any questions or feedback! :)
CCP Frame..... um I .... um..... Senpai.....
Can I have that Giant-Dump-Truck-Thing in the back back ground of that art?
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2015.05.06 00:42:00 -
[154] - Quote
L3 would be a little more fair, imo.
Just doing merc stuff
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cleaningcrew88
Weiben Ritter
30
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Posted - 2015.05.18 01:47:00 -
[155] - Quote
hey ccp can i buy sell trade blueprints and warbarge components???? |
Ray Annihilator
TERRA R1SING
New Eden's Heros
0
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Posted - 2015.07.16 23:45:00 -
[156] - Quote
hi
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
214
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Posted - 2015.07.19 00:26:00 -
[157] - Quote
Quafe weapons though
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒGû¬.°n+í¤GÿåGùÅ.° GÖñGÖíTrade/saleGÖºGÖñ
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LORD PUFFINGTON
duna corp
1
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:20:00 -
[158] - Quote
make quafe weapons tradable please |
SmokinRoses420
Bra's and Boxer's
21
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Posted - 2015.07.21 19:03:00 -
[159] - Quote
Fristname Family name wrote:SHOOT HIM NOTIME wrote:Hmm I love the idea of player trading but you should make it too were you can trade something of equal value or agreed apon isk trade to prevent the scamming issue .
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tradethis i the trading system they should use (i couldnt find a defiance screen shot and cant be bothered taking a pic and uploading it then linking it cause im playing Dust :P ) or this one http://www.wowwiki.com/Auction_House might work if CCP can do it but i would properly be accused if scamming cause people will send me stuff or money and i wont send back cause i didnt know they sent XD
I agree 100% with you on this Firstname. I posted a forum on this, because it's sad people being scammed for stuff..when there's a simple fix. I think something like Defiance trade system would work awesome! |
Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:45:00 -
[160] - Quote
SmokinRoses420 wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:SHOOT HIM NOTIME wrote:Hmm I love the idea of player trading but you should make it too were you can trade something of equal value or agreed apon isk trade to prevent the scamming issue .
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tradethis i the trading system they should use (i couldnt find a defiance screen shot and cant be bothered taking a pic and uploading it then linking it cause im playing Dust :P ) or this one http://www.wowwiki.com/Auction_House might work if CCP can do it but i would properly be accused if scamming cause people will send me stuff or money and i wont send back cause i didnt know they sent XD I agree 100% with you on this Firstname. I posted a forum on this, because it's sad people being scammed for stuff..when there's a simple fix. I think something like Defiance trade system would work awesome!
> something like Defiance trade system would work awesome!
I second this.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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LORD PUFFINGTON
duna corp
4
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Posted - 2015.07.23 22:10:00 -
[161] - Quote
dear ccp make quafe weapons from dropboxes tradable please |
LORD PUFFINGTON
duna corp
4
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Posted - 2015.07.24 19:51:00 -
[162] - Quote
make quafe weapons tradable please |
Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN
30
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Posted - 2015.07.26 21:54:00 -
[163] - Quote
I want to get a Krin DMG mod, could you make that possible on future trading updates. Meanwhile gonna keep enjoying the game. THX 07
Caldari Scouts should be Ninjas.
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Les Soldats
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
29
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Posted - 2015.07.26 22:15:00 -
[164] - Quote
DEVS;I got ripped off trying to buy an apex so it was a lot of isk. He was working with another player acting as a happy customer.
The player that ripped me off is:
Dust ID: dadelyn dobson
PSN ID: griffey714
Can you give my money back? Can I submit a trouble ticket?
Please create a trading tool for the next patch.
Thanks,
Les. |
Aderek
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
189
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Posted - 2015.07.27 11:24:00 -
[165] - Quote
Les Soldats wrote:DEVS;I got ripped off trying to buy an apex so it was a lot of isk. He was working with another player acting as a happy customer.
The player that ripped me off is:
Dust ID: dadelyn dobson
PSN ID: griffey714
Can you give my money back? Can I submit a trouble ticket?
Please create a trading tool for the next patch.
Thanks,
Les.
They do nothink, your trade, your risk.
dust514.pl, wcogram.pl, i-play24.net
MM proto logi
80 kk SP and growing
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
395
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Posted - 2015.07.27 11:32:00 -
[166] - Quote
One thing i wanna drop here. If your dumb enough to fall for a scam you deserve to lose your crap...... I would always make sure to use a 4th party aswell as a third if trading with random, one from your corp or a mate and one from theirs, and you both give your third party the gear first or some crap idk. if i wanted to i could get 3 people talking about me being legit and stuff and scam people as I have 3 ps3s....
BUILD MORE FARMS!
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Les Soldats
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
29
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Posted - 2015.07.27 17:10:00 -
[167] - Quote
Fristname Family name wrote:One thing i wanna drop here. If your dumb enough to fall for a scam you deserve to lose your crap...... I would always make sure to use a 4th party aswell as a third if trading with random, one from your corp or a mate and one from theirs, and you both give your third party the gear first or some crap idk. if i wanted to i could get 3 people talking about me being legit and stuff and scam people as I have 3 ps3s....
ok, that-¦s the point....
All this could be solved by creating a trading tool for the next patch.
Not only would prevent scamming, also would increase the trading in game.
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Woo R'U
PosT MorTeaM
0
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Posted - 2015.08.24 20:31:00 -
[168] - Quote
I don't understand why you don't use the eve online systems like contracts or offer on the market with a taxe on DUST514 |
Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.09.04 10:55:00 -
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Quafe Weapons or nah
Recruiter for FAS
Recruitment Post!!!!!!
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