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Condotta Rouvenor
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:08:00 -
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Just informing you CCP... I have a max daily bonus over 580days and have a game every day atleast now and im rank 3... please buff point acquisition or nerf the requirements. Its not 'easy' to get those points by logging in daily or anything like that when i use to be a player that capped 3accounts weekly and continued playing on my main 'Inmortal Slayer' and after 580+ daily bonus and not missing a single day since that update not missing out on any event that i think is worth to sit down and play for hours through . but still rank 3 4000points to go. that will need to be grinded like hell to get to 4. please change the requirements to xdays played cause what will people farm alts for? ars or something well they would farm the dailys isk and just buy them..... reconsiders the resurrections.
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Posted - 2015.04.20 06:51:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:Just informing you CCP... I have a max daily bonus over 580days and have a game every day atleast now and im rank 3... please buff point acquisition or nerf the requirements.
Removed because max characters . Removed the quote because i hit max characters
I personally think they should have it so both players MUST be online at the same time. this will limit alt farming (cant see much benifit as i already can just grind my 4 accounts for daily mission isk and dump it into a pile to move around between them if i wanted but i see no point as after hitting x-mill isk there is not much point in caring how much your stuff cost as you know you can easily grind a ambush with your cheaper ft and get 1mll+ in a few hours or less.
So what is the benefits of alt farming?
The only benefit would be transferring gear as i have said. If there's a limited time suit that lots of people want its gonna be worth more money (thus people will be willing to trade/scam/pay more, trade their valuables or scam more- i will come back to scamming and how to fix it) then if people had alts and want more money or gear they have run out of such as officer gear (by money im referring to isk) and that suit was once given out to all players or previously on a daily mission they had then they will get heaps of money/good gear until people find another way of getting it (this is pretty much average player trading economy in most MMORPG games) i would like to move my officer gear my main cant use to alts that can ect but ohwell i guess its no biggie ill just horde them and sell them for a bigger profit with my own plans for the trading update.
I guess i more positive thing is that also new players would benefit from vets 'donating' (yes being nice like some of them are) gear to new mercs to get them started and could lead to the vet taking a few new players under their wing every so often and just distributing their standard/advanced gear and advice on it ect (maybe i don't know most of the players who i know are good players/vets too well I just know their name and assume they wouldn't wanna squad with me so yeah)
and of course spending more AUR (i hate to put this here but for CCP's sake i will as im sure alot of players who arent willing to speak up about it will just rush out and get AUR to quickly level up their rank just for the trading. feels a bit sad that its gonna become either you play and cap every week/spend AUR to get rank 4 so you can have a little fun with trading or you just stay a weekend warrior and never get to trade a single item in your life in Dust 514...)
Negatives Of Player Trading
Well ill just start with the obvious, in the early stages (a few months maybe 3 or 5months max... hopefully) NO ONE (yes no one) will know the value of ANYTHING. here is an example using Steve- a vet player i came up with (not a real player)
and Jim (some guy who plays Dust and isn't a frequent user of forums and only rarely checks them and is not the brightest crayon in the box) Quote: Steve: hey look you got the valentines quafe suit from last year. Jim- yeah they are pretty aren't they. Steve- ill give you my 50limited edition 2.0 something something blue modules which are no longer available and haven't been for over a year and a half for 50 of those suits. Jim- Hmmm... i dont know... ive heard rumors of people scamming others, but if you throw in 100k isk you've got a deal. Steve- sure thing (owning over 500mill he laughs at Jim behind his muted mic) *they continue with the trade and Jim unaware that he is a bit of a silly billy just lost him self a few hundred/thousand AUR (lets say 8000 AUR was spent on the suits) or in real money if he bought a 10,000 AUR pack it would be $7.55 Australian dollars. meanwhile Steve is walking in his merc house in a pretty pink suit which he then distributes to a few of his close friends and they form a squad named pink death kiss and laugh at the fact that Jim was dumb. yes i know it may have dragged on (and with those blue mods i dont know when they were around but yeah just an example of noob being scammed kinda ) but the point is that will be kinda what goes on for the initial stages of the trade or otherwise a bunch of people get scammed and mark the scammers of New Eden (whom are just accounts set up by people who are vets or meanies who scam everyone and move the loot to their main) and that is if they implement this next paragraph
My Proposed Ways To Limit Exploits And The Pure Forum Spam Of Crying From People Whom Have Been Scammed
and yes the 2nd part of the title of this paragraph i would bet alot of money on that it will happen for a little while atleast.
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Posted - 2015.04.20 06:53:00 -
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If they implement something like a few MMORPG games i know of use (i dont play MMORPG's often but yeah there is alot with the system im about to explain) where both players must be online at the time of the trade and they enter a trading screen when both parties (player A & player B) agree to the trade request. After the request has been excepted both parties then select the item/items (currency, gear or whatever) and when both players have agreed on the proposed offers the trade commences and the message saying 'Trade Successful' or something like that will appear and they are done.
(i will continue this later on but i hit character limit for now and i think i need a little rest for an hour or so. also the next few things will be regarding the ranks and other restrictions along with something you can actually do to prevent scams if victims have evidence and the scammer is a repeat offender and/or is exploiting the game/trade mechanics or new players experience of the game by exploiting their lack of in game knowledge. also maybe something else if i can think of more that can be, no it SHOULD BE improved because i was thinking "oh boy player trading" had a look "WTF is this.. just send isk but with gear.. its like they want us to be scammed"
Just a little thing i edited in to say to everyone here about why im even bothering with these suggestions and stating things
what i want to attempt to achieve is to actually make a contribution and hopefully be listened to and get some other people realizing that this trading system is not as good as it could be. i know CCP 'may' have worked its slaves to the bone to get this up and running but im kinda hoping that it can be made into something alot better. and maybe even have a public market place down the road for Dust (or at least in legion) i just know i wouldn't feel comfortable trading my gear first to some complete random because i wouldn't trust them. any way im going to try and contribute to this more because all i want is for my game to become better than it is. By making a good player trading we are now even better than destiny than we previously were (lets face it that game is bad) but we still wont have a 'good' player trading system it would be something i expect to see in a Call Of Duty or Battlefield game at the moment. CCP lets see what you can really do to make this trading system for the players rather than for the money so we can actually use it and trust the people we are trading with and hope for the best :D
(i had over the limit apparently still so i cut this out and am posting it separate as you can see :P )
also i might write the next part tomorrow or tonight depending on if i watch anime or not.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 09:29:00 -
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Alright lets get right into this. my main account is currently at 'Corporal' (Rank 3 in loyalty rank), anyone who is in a higher rank may be completely unaware of the amount if time needed to pass rank 3. i think it would require roughly 9000/10,000 points to clear as i am a little past half way and still require 4,322 points to get to the next rank. Now that account is over 1year old and has at the moment i write this 36,460,722sp and over 1,300,000 life time wp and well over 1000games played (i use to play for over 50hours a week if i wasn't doing much and that was alot, so i would say if you checked my total playtime CCP (please don and tell me the answer i am curious about it) it would most likely be over 5months of playtime. I also have a positive kdr and a 595 consecutive daily bonus and i dont plan on losing that anytime soon. (now to you all who have 'lives' that is currently the maximum daily bonus available on the current date of 21/4/2015 (or 4/21/2015 if your American) and i earn points per day for collecting my bonus) now taking this all into consideration i have spent $0 on the game and have thought about it but most likely never will. now lets see how this adds up to me only being level 3. im already going to assume i most likely get +1 point/per every day you play so even with my 595dayily bonus I receive +1 point rather than any stacking effect happening or at least a +6 for the max bonus. (by max bonus here i am referring to the reward of 6consecutive days) now anyway how does this all added up only put me at rank 3? i have no idea, something like spending AUR most likely would raise your points by something like 10/1AUR. I'm not saying to change this but why would you think making the trading require rank 3 when a majority of 'weekend warriors' don't play enough or don't spend any real money in the game which instantly results in someone who plays for lets say 4-15hours on one day of the weekend and then x2 = total game play in a week with no days off work or whatever they do during the week would have only played roughly between 8-30hours in a week. no matter how good or how long these weekend warriors have been around there is almost no chance that they would be able to access player trading within their Dust life unless they buy AUR. also with this note of AUR=insta rank up pretty much whats to stop people from spending real money to farm alts? or is this not a problem as its making you a profit? A much more appropriate way of limiting the player trading is by adding restrictions to the amount of trading accounts can do such as the following.
- If player has under x (i would say between 50-100 is fair) days, player cannot send items to other players (so only receives gear cannot send gear and all players would be aware of restrictions when sending items via i color code or message that appears with what the player cannot do in the trading system when another player goes to send them something (prior to selecting items to send because players often spam x alot of the time and the box must be closed by pushing left and then x to insure players know what is happening rather than expecting something in return then complaining they had no idea they were unable to send back)
- possibly only players above x sp (with today's sp gain i would say 10mill but i would have to say 4-5mill is fair for the newer players when/if they come but 10mill would be better in my opinion) would be able to sen (so pretty much same thing as last mail except rather than merc age its sp)
- possibly kills or war points would be another way to implement the restrictions previously mentioned.
- players who have not logged in for 50days+ are unable to receive items. (to prevent sending items to inactive characters and to never receive items back) if a player whom was inactive for 50+days logs in again they will be unable to trade for x days. or without logging in x amount of days within x amount of time.
- A player who has had a temp ban in game (possibly on the forums if it has occurred numerous times) they have a temp on trading.
they are about it for the restrictions i had in mind.
and on another note i noticed someone said something refrencing to animal crossing how you list your item and it goes into a separate section of the market place where players can search for their desired item and the player whom listed it will have a set price or possible trades he wants to do along with an option to message the player. that way of trading is much more efficient then the one proposed by CCP so far but may be difficult for them to set it up. although the players are excited for the trading i hope they are able to realize that you have to make it above average before releasing the feature and im sure they will be able to wait. The system for trading which would be used for the actual trading of gear which would work best would be the 'Pokemon' way which i mentioned in a earlier post that alot of MMORPG's use is the best. both players show gear both players accept trade happens everyone's happy no rip offs unless its your own mistake such as carelessness or lack of value knowledge.
600 characters left i will add another tomorrow.
by the way CCP im pretty sure you have read these so far and i would actually really like to know if you would consider making alot of these changes to the trading system and possibly postpone the release if it is required to completely overhaul the thing and make it better than it is.
Cya 
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Posted - 2015.04.24 10:02:00 -
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https://instagram.com/p/wD6uU3oiqd/?taken-by=shooterwilliamson
this is how alot of the player base has reacted and then there's me complaining about it.
but honestly CCP you cant use loyalty rank 4 for the requirements just change it to total playtime/sp/kills/games won or character age.. weekend warriors and new players will never be able to use trading otherwise.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:42:00 -
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SHOOT HIM NOTIME wrote:Hmm I love the idea of player trading but you should make it too were you can trade something of equal value or agreed apon isk trade to prevent the scamming issue .
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trade
this i the trading system they should use (i couldnt find a defiance screen shot and cant be bothered taking a pic and uploading it then linking it cause im playing Dust :P )
or this one
http://www.wowwiki.com/Auction_House might work if CCP can do it
but i would properly be accused if scamming cause people will send me stuff or money and i wont send back cause i didnt know they sent XD
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Posted - 2015.04.25 05:48:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Brightness Fullheart wrote:I've been playing dust for more than a year and ask anyone that has played with me or against me, I am a good player. Tho I'm only loyalty rank level 3 and CCP is saying I won't be able to do the player trade which is bull. It's not fair that people who use freakin aur are like rank 8 on all their characters and someone who carved their path without the use of real money can't trade with everyone else. CCP Logic actually your logic is quiet flawed. You are only loyalty rank 3 and has played over a year you say? How is that even possible? have you not spent at least 10 dollars to support the game? How cheap can you be. Also people that spent money do not get their loyalty rank raised throughout all characters, only one. You are not a good player ive never seen you playing planetary conquest so nice try trying to epeen. Seriously if this is what the player base has come to LOL. Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering? whatever happened to HTFU?
I almost spent money on the game once... then i thought about it and said to my self there isnt anything worth yet.
just to make you happy ill buy the next thing i think is worth. but what about people who are new? or play 2times a week on the weekends? theres no real reason for them to bother buying AUR.
also theres no real reason to put money into the game and everything use to be cheaper in the game (by everything i mean like BPO gear and stuff). also your comment of "Just a Bunch of entitled noncontributing crybabies that somehow deserve better pampering" i can see where your coming from but what happens to the players that are new ect are they just neglected unless they buy AUR? or are they just nothing to you anyway.. the way you said what you did was a bit overkill and there was nothing saying "people who give us money get special treatment" ever.
maybe they should have a sale on AUR maybe get 10% extra with every purchase and they will sell a bunch.
and are you honestly happy with the actual scamming, i mean trading system they are going to use? The fact that its trust based and fair bit of people in this game would scam you at any chance they get i would rather have the release postponed for as long as they need to make it better than to have a long list of complaints from baby's losing their BPO's because they think everything in the transaction is correct. all i need to do is add a decimal into the number and if you dont spot it then your out millions of isk or because they sent their gear 1st.
ill have to go buy a psn card tho... i want myself some passive sp boosters and BPO gear if they are looking good enough still.
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Posted - 2015.04.29 05:28:00 -
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well lets start off with getting some free AUR and ranking up then scam a few noobs and have some fun in the new gme mode :D
ill only scam some people who are deserving of it bjut the main issue is how can i see if someone can actually trade with me? they might promise somthing and not be able to trade and ask for isk then i cant get a item...
GLHF on everyones trading :D
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Posted - 2015.07.27 11:32:00 -
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One thing i wanna drop here. If your dumb enough to fall for a scam you deserve to lose your crap...... I would always make sure to use a 4th party aswell as a third if trading with random, one from your corp or a mate and one from theirs, and you both give your third party the gear first or some crap idk. if i wanted to i could get 3 people talking about me being legit and stuff and scam people as I have 3 ps3s....
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