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Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1752	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:09:00 - [91] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: We can talk about nerfing Jihad Jeeps when the Anti-Infantry focused Blaster turret has been adjusted as well. Tanks shouldn't be able to simultaneously have their extreme survivability along with their ability to completely and singlehandedly cripple the infantry side of a match. If Tanks want to be effective against Infantry along with keeping their current survivability then they should be forced to fit Small Turrets. As it is Jihad Jeeps are pretty much the only AV that a person that hasn't skilled into proto can reasonably use in a match, and it's the only viable non-Tank / Heavy AV counter that exists in the game. here you go. Also, swarms exist, and I've heard of people using PLC's as AV as well. I use them for AI (anti-heavy), but can see why people uses them as AV. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 758	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:13:00 - [92] - Quote Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't read all the comments yet clears throat OP: Jihad is OP All: Jihad is counter to OP tanks OP: Tanks need balancing and jihad is still OP All: We would agree with you if tanks were balanced OP: I said tanks need to be rebalanced All: But jihad is the only counter to tanks OP: then balance tanks and remove jihads ^this make any sense to you? Seems like we all agree that tanks need to be changed but some people are too busy trying to troll to see that. Yes, it is actually easy to kill off jihads. I was hit by one and it simply spins out of control then stopped. 1 blaster round and it was gone. I've also taken one out with a std locus. They are however quite fast and if your scanner isn't on then it's hard to tell when an enemy jihad is approaching. Do I want Jihads gone? No. I would like for LAVs to have a higher profile as it is currently impossible to detect and enemy LAV unless you can directly see it. Do I think tanks are OP. Eh, it's more like AV is just UP. Buff the AV and if tanks are still a problem THEN we can see about nurfing them a little. Am I a tanker? Nope! Although I have always thought tanks are fun and so I keep a tank fit on stand-by. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 499	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:19:00 - [93] - Quote Dude, saying something doesn't make it a fact. I personally see Jihads taken out all the time, just as i'm sure most other people have as well. If you are saying Jihads are unkillable, that means you can't kill them. But you not being able to kill them does not mean they are unkillable, it means something else entirely. And that something else is, apparently, you are one of the very few heavily speced tankers that for one reason or another absolutely positively cannot stop and or kill a Jihad, which means you're doing it wrong. I haven't failed 10,000 times, i've successfully found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas Edison
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 475	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:26:00 - [94] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: We can talk about nerfing Jihad Jeeps when the Anti-Infantry focused Blaster turret has been adjusted as well. Tanks shouldn't be able to simultaneously have their extreme survivability along with their ability to completely and singlehandedly cripple the infantry side of a match. If Tanks want to be effective against Infantry along with keeping their current survivability then they should be forced to fit Small Turrets. As it is Jihad Jeeps are pretty much the only AV that a person that hasn't skilled into proto can reasonably use in a match, and it's the only viable non-Tank / Heavy AV counter that exists in the game. here you go. Also, swarms exist, and I've heard of people using PLC's as AV as well. I use them for AI (anti-heavy), but can see why people uses them as AV. Swarms and PLC's are not what I'd define as viable AV options, either weapon would have trouble taking out a well fit LAV let alone something that's able to fit multiple hardeners and can sit there and cycle them while soaking up 2-3 people's worth of focused AV. No, from an infantry point of view you have 3 options - You can use a Forge Gun (Minimum Op. 4 for a DAU) or you can use a Jihad Jeep which is the only option for lower SP players. Any other option is either cost prohibitive for overall effect (Proto Swarms) or a Tank. Even with that I still think Jihad Jeeps should be an option that exists in the game, anything really that allows lower SP players to be able to effectively take on the vets are an option that I believe should be available in the game. Whether that be using well placed REs on a Scout suit to tag a squad of protos, sniping with a militia forge, or using a bomb strapped truck to ram into the side of a stationary HAV. Saga v. Methana Balance
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1752	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:27:00 - [95] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't read all the comments yet clears throat OP: Jihad is OP All: Jihad is counter to OP tanks OP: Tanks need balancing and jihad is still OP All: We would agree with you if tanks were balanced OP: I said tanks need to be rebalanced All: But jihad is the only counter to tanks OP: then balance tanks and remove jihads ^this make any sense to you? Seems like we all agree that tanks need to be changed but some people are too busy trying to troll to see that. Yes, it is actually easy to kill off jihads. I was hit by one and it simply spins out of control then stopped. 1 blaster round and it was gone. I've also taken one out with a std locus. They are however quite fast and if your scanner isn't on then it's hard to tell when an enemy jihad is approaching. Do I want Jihads gone? No. I would like for LAVs to have a higher profile as it is currently impossible to detect and enemy LAV unless you can directly see it. Do I think tanks are OP. Eh, it's more like AV is just UP. Buff the AV and if tanks are still a problem THEN we can see about nurfing them a little. Am I a tanker? Nope! Although I have always thought tanks are fun and so I keep a tank fit on stand-by. yes, that makes sense. But the rest of it is silly, due to JLAV's being able to put the RE's inside of or on the side of the LAV. putting them on the front is although is most consistant way to do it, the laziest and the easiest way to die. And like I said, it's quite easy to hide from HAV's with a LAV, so directly seeing it is not going to cut it. Also, HAV's are not OP; more like broken, because of hardeners, the slot layout and the fitting abilities, and the base speed and handling of them is either too good (hardeners, fitting abilities for Gunnlogi/Sica, base speed), or horrible (slot layout, fitting abilities for Soma/Maddy, handling). If those were fixed, AV wouldn't need a buff or nerf; they would be balanced vs. those hulls, which is what I think Wolfman intended. He probably didn't think of the stacking penalty. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1752	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:30:00 - [96] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Dude, saying something doesn't make it a fact. I personally see Jihads taken out all the time, just as i'm sure most other people have as well. If you are saying Jihads are unkillable, that means you can't kill them. But you not being able to kill them does not mean they are unkillable, it means something else entirely. And that something else is, apparently, you are one of the very few heavily speced tankers that for one reason or another absolutely positively cannot stop and or kill a Jihad, which means you're doing it wrong. I've never been killed using one. That's where I've seen one being unkillable. Why? I set it up to where they are not killable (if you read the whole thing, you would know that). No, just that all the others who tried it are doing JLAV's wrong. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 31	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:30:00 - [97] - Quote Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry... All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting ** to live forever. ... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad. 1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it. 2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol 3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is. 4- If you can't use a large turret for **, have someone on your side guns shoot at it. 5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill. Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1752	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:38:00 - [98] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry... All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting ** to live forever. ... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad. 1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it. 2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol 3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is. 4- If you can't use a large turret for , have someone on your side guns shoot at it. 5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill. Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up. 1: LAV's are faster than you, and LAV's can put nitro on, so invalid 2: You'll blow up too, so invalid 3: HAV's aren't good in rough terrain, most outside objectives aren't near any, and nitro will negate that, so invalid. 4: can't fit the smalls without giving up the enitre fit (and that's only one), and that still won't kill the JLAV. Oh, and that's only the top one. the JLAV has to come from the front for the bottom one to shoot at it (but like that'll do anything), so invalid. 5: I use Maddy's only, and mostly targeted Maddy's in my tests. I had a specific test for a Gunnlogi, and all I did was put more Re's in the LAV, and killed it nicely, so invalid. 6: Not using HAV's until all this broken ** gets fixed, so no kills for you (Not even playing Dust until 1.8 comes out). 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 662	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:41:00 - [99] - Quote I die in a JLAV from target tanks and their infantry support more then I do exploding in glory. I don't know how many times I've had a good attack angle just to bounce off or shoot over the tank itself. In what tanking I do I've been killed by a JLAV twice. Terrain is your friend, rough ground and hills mean they can't get the speed up to make it work and increases the chances they will just stick to something long enough to take them out. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1439	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:41:00 - [100] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Wah my tank was killed by superior tactics Nerf playing smart. Seriously get some damn combat awareness, every turret melts lavs in seconds and they're not exactly stealthy. [spits out beer] Superior tactics? Lol. Instead of bulldozing through everything they have to actually think about how they're going to get close enough to ram you. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 501	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:44:00 - [101] - Quote I've read this whole mess Godin, and I don't know what to tell you man. When things go your way, everyone else it doing it wrong, when they don't go your way the game is broken and you have it worse than anyone else on the planet. This has been the common theme of nearly every thread i've see you create. I'm really starting to think you can't be any older than 14-15. All the angst and "I have it so bad" atittude screams young teen. Which isn't a bad thing, but for once get off your damn cross and come back to reality. I haven't failed 10,000 times, i've successfully found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas Edison
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 53	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:44:00 - [102] - Quote If you cant kill an LAV or the driver using a blaster tank you either cant aim or you are just a bad tanker. Its not hard to notice an lav coming towards you and shoot it. and if it is dead ahead you can easily kill the driver. Those LAVs aren't impossible to kill its actually really easy.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1753	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:47:00 - [103] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Wah my tank was killed by superior tactics Nerf playing smart. Seriously get some damn combat awareness, every turret melts lavs in seconds and they're not exactly stealthy. [spits out beer] Superior tactics? Lol. Instead of bulldozing through everything they have to actually think about how they're going to get close enough to ram you. 1: nitro 2: hardener 3: charge That worked literally every last time. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:49:00 - [104] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: If you cant kill an LAV or the driver using a blaster tank you either cant aim or you are just a bad tanker. Its not hard to notice an lav coming towards you and shoot it. and if it is dead ahead you can easily kill the driver. Those LAVs aren't impossible to kill its actually really easy. Like I said, I have shot at drivers. Straight at them, and they wouldn't die. I've also had one shoot at me, and no damage was received. The shots looked like they were hitting me right in the face. So I call bullshit. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 156	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:49:00 - [105] - Quote The only way jihad jeeps will be removed is if people stop buying AUR tanks and tell CCP that's the reason why. The devs are scrambling for their jobs. Now would be the time for a cpl of the wallet job corps to push this, or any other issues they want fixed. It's simple supply and demand. The pay players supply the devs with a paycheck, so it's time they made some demands. Seriously, Big Corps, take note of this, get together with your counterparts, make a list and tell them no more AUR until what you want gets done. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:50:00 - [106] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I've read this whole mess Godin, and I don't know what to tell you man. When things go your way, everyone else it doing it wrong, when they don't go your way the game is broken and you have it worse than anyone else on the planet. This has been the common theme of nearly every thread i've see you create. I'm really starting to think you can't be any older than 14-15. All the angst and "I have it so bad" atittude screams young teen. Which isn't a bad thing, but for once get off your damn cross and come back to reality. When things go my way (which it hardly ever does), everyone is doing it wrong. I want things to be fair for all, and for nobody to have broken **** to use. It's that so hard to ask for? 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1442	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:52:00 - [107] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Wah my tank was killed by superior tactics Nerf playing smart. Seriously get some damn combat awareness, every turret melts lavs in seconds and they're not exactly stealthy. [spits out beer] Superior tactics? Lol. Instead of bulldozing through everything they have to actually think about how they're going to get close enough to ram you. 1: nitro 2: hardener 3: charge That worked literally every last time. Fit a hardener to live, problem solved. L2 shoot, if rails work on hardened tanks then it should also work on hardened lavs in less than half the shots with the lower hp. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:53:00 - [108] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I've read this whole mess Godin, and I don't know what to tell you man. When things go your way, everyone else it doing it wrong, when they don't go your way the game is broken and you have it worse than anyone else on the planet. This has been the common theme of nearly every thread i've see you create. I'm really starting to think you can't be any older than 14-15. All the angst and "I have it so bad" atittude screams young teen. Which isn't a bad thing, but for once get off your damn cross and come back to reality. No, I'm 21, almost 22. IT screams nothing. All I want is balance. you guys just want HAV's to be broken forever it seems. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 53	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:53:00 - [109] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: If you cant kill an LAV or the driver using a blaster tank you either cant aim or you are just a bad tanker. Its not hard to notice an lav coming towards you and shoot it. and if it is dead ahead you can easily kill the driver. Those LAVs aren't impossible to kill its actually really easy. Like I said, I have shot at drivers. Straight at them, and they wouldn't die. I've also had one shoot at me, and no damage was received. The shots looked like they were hitting me right in the face. So I call bullshit. Aim up a little, you're still hitting the car. Anyway, while tanks can roll around costing just over the price of an advance suit and not have to fear av, Jihad Jeeps can stay. you dont see many people complaining about getting run over by LAVs even though they could lose 200k.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:54:00 - [110] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Wah my tank was killed by superior tactics Nerf playing smart. Seriously get some damn combat awareness, every turret melts lavs in seconds and they're not exactly stealthy. [spits out beer] Superior tactics? Lol. Instead of bulldozing through everything they have to actually think about how they're going to get close enough to ram you. 1: nitro 2: hardener 3: charge That worked literally every last time. Fit a hardener to live, problem solved. L2 shoot, if rails work on hardened tanks then it should also work on hardened lavs in less than half the shots with the lower hp. LAV's are also far easier to dodge with. and I have 2 on, both activated, and still dies. I call bullshit still. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 503	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:57:00 - [111] - Quote Lol, exactly. You win Godin, I don't want anymore. I'll see you on your next "tanks in dust= jews in natsi germany" thread, which i'm sure drops any moment now. I haven't failed 10,000 times, i've successfully found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas Edison
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:00:00 - [112] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: If you cant kill an LAV or the driver using a blaster tank you either cant aim or you are just a bad tanker. Its not hard to notice an lav coming towards you and shoot it. and if it is dead ahead you can easily kill the driver. Those LAVs aren't impossible to kill its actually really easy. Like I said, I have shot at drivers. Straight at them, and they wouldn't die. I've also had one shoot at me, and no damage was received. The shots looked like they were hitting me right in the face. So I call bullshit. Aim up a little, you're still hitting the car. Anyway, while tanks can roll around costing just over the price of an advance suit and not have to fear av, Jihad Jeeps can stay. you dont see many people complaining about getting run over by LAVs even though they could lose 200k. That's what I thought, aimed a tiny bit higher, and was completely missing (I'm talking barely moving the turret. Also, if a Adv. fit costs near 100k, then that's not a adv. fit; it's a adv. suit with PROTO things on it. Lastly, yes, I actually do, and you must've forgot about all those "MURDER TAXI IS OP! NERF IT" threads 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1755	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:03:00 - [113] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Lol, exactly. You win Godin, I don't want anymore. I'll see you on your next "tanks in dust= jews in natsi germany" thread, which i'm sure drops any moment now. You're still missing the point. I only want balacne. You've and the rest of the goddamn idiots ignores all the other threads with me saying that thigns on HAV's and other vehicles are broken, yet when I say fix the broken ** infantry use, I'm a bad person. You all are just a bunch of ***** hypocrites. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1442	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:07:00 - [114] - Quote Once again learn 2 aim, an lav trying to dodge your rounds is going to give you more time to shoot at it. And that sounds like bull, it would take 3 sets of res at leadt to kill a dual hardened tank. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 34	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:10:00 - [115] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry... All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting ** to live forever. ... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad. 1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it. 2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol 3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is. 4- If you can't use a large turret for , have someone on your side guns shoot at it. 5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill. Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up. 1: LAV's are faster than you, and LAV's can put nitro on, so invalid 2: You'll blow up too, so invalid 3: HAV's aren't good in rough terrain, most outside objectives aren't near any, and nitro will negate that, so invalid. 4: can't fit the smalls without giving up the enitre fit (and that's only one), and that still won't kill the JLAV. Oh, and that's only the top one. the JLAV has to come from the front for the bottom one to shoot at it (but like that'll do anything), so invalid. 5: I use Maddy's only, and mostly targeted Maddy's in my tests. I had a specific test for a Gunnlogi, and all I did was put more Re's in the LAV, and killed it nicely, so invalid. 6: Not using HAV's until all this broken gets fixed, so no kills for you (Not even playing Dust until 1.8 comes out). You're that bad at the game, that even with easymode tanks you're giving up... 1- LAV's aren't that much faster than a speed boosting tank, if you move away from the jeep, even with boosters going he can't blow himself up on you, unless he gets infront, at which point you stop and move the other direction while shooting... 2- Following step one, if he's next to you, he doesn't blow up because he's got to run off and get more momentum before trying again, all the while you wait for him to move and then shoot... It's not fecking rocket science. 3- HAV's can actually move through rough terrain, while a high speed jeep will either roll over, get stuck with lag or blow up!!! 4- Compromise, it's what you do when you're not good enough to take the **** out yourself! 5- Not invalid, because more bombs = more chance of death, you even the odds, add a hardener add some more hp instead of just pure armour repair, make it harder not impossible... We aren't after a game where tanks are immortal it's exactly what we don't want. 6- fair enough, I'll just have to take on someone with more skill than you instead then.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 854	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:10:00 - [116] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: if someone is willing to kill themselves out of spite in order to have a chance at destroying an enemy tank, it just goes to show how overpowered tanks are, and that tank invincibility to any other tactic needs to go man, i feel like I'm farming likes Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 528	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:14:00 - [117] - Quote awwww XD XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 448	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:38:00 - [118] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: awwww XD Lol, are ya happy with what you helped create Jolly.
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1772	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:40:00 - [119] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: -- snip -- Actually, I'm too busy fighting other HAV's to look up at the sky 24/7. That's how it's been all the time. Seems to be the same with all the other victims of my tests. JLAV's are impossible to kill. Have you been ignoring my statements this entire time? Are you that narrow minded to see that? Or are you just butthurt that HAv's have become harder than they really should be (still possible though) with actual AV, and want a easy way to do it. Also, many maps have towers in their bases, so you could call them behind them. Or wait a bit to take off. Over time, you won't think about it. Also, it's not like it's hard to sneak up on HAV's. Did it all the time in my tests; as a matter of a fact, I only got shot at once, and even then, still killed the HAV. WHy? Because, you can't shoot at a LAV enough to kill it, especially if the LAV is dodging yuor shots. Blowing the Re's is impossible if you put them inside the LAV, and only possible if the LAV turns too early towards you. Dude, this argument you have is flawed, as you're talking as if vehicles, HAv's in particular isn't broken themselves. My argument is sound, as 1: JLAV's aren't a valid tactic, as it's a instant kill, and you can't kill them. 2: It's far cheaper to use JLAV's against HAV's than it is to use said HAV or use AV 3: unkillable Yes, there's problems with HAV's, but saying that broken stuff should stay in and even encourage others to use said broken **** is even worse. At least I'm saying to fix it. That's like saying RR's shouldn't be ever changed from their current state. I'm not butt-hurt, I haven't started a thread named "tanks need to go", seems like you are the one with a sore sphincter valve. I ran tanks for a long time in worse conditions, fighting other tanks, invisi-swarms, forge gunners, AV nade traps I ALWAYS had time or a team that could see what was being called in. Claims of invincibility of LAV's is crazy, and stands as a statement with more proof against the claim. Maybe YOU can't kill them. 1.JLAV's are a valid tactic, this is absolutely proven by the fact you are here as a disgruntled tanker, not enjoying how effective the tacticis are. If in current war we had 'clones' and death was not an issue, then more tactics like this would exist. 2.Its also far cheaper to run a tank than it is a scout with <300 HP, price doesn't give you the right to live longer. I've killed them, just yesterday in my soma blaster. learn. Using vehicles covered in explosives is part of war, has been for a long time. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1744	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:59:00 - [120] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: JLAV's have brung the same problem as the old AV, but far worse: to be able to easily counter HAV's on a far cheaper price point (somewhere between free and 50k ISK0. and all you have to do is ram the HAV's. People just say, "shoot at it, and it'll blow up". well, put the RE's on the side of the LAV, then slide into it, or better yet, put them inside of it, and then it becomes near impossible/impossible to kill. Also, from a lore stand point, the things are made to not be affected by outside force, so it makes even less sense. Simply put, the best way to fix it is to not allow in attaching to friendly hulls. You can still attach RE's to enemy hulls to kill them that way, but not put them on your own and smash into others and cause unnecessary rage. Lastly, saying, "But it's fun, so it should stay." Is not a argument. That's like saying "But the RR is fun, so it should stay as is.". Might be fun for you to be OP, but to the receiving end, it's not fun. At all. Peace, Godin What's this Whenever I get jihad-jeeped I bring out an even scarier tank Patrick57 Carries us all Tanker Prof. V scrub Q_Q moar



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