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Benjamin Ciscko
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:59:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:JLAV's have brung the same problem as the old AV, but far worse: to be able to easily counter HAV's on a far cheaper price point (somewhere between free and 50k ISK0. and all you have to do is ram the HAV's. People just say, "shoot at it, and it'll blow up". well, put the RE's on the side of the LAV, then slide into it, or better yet, put them inside of it, and then it becomes near impossible/impossible to kill. Also, from a lore stand point, the things are made to not be affected by outside force, so it makes even less sense. Simply put, the best way to fix it is to not allow in attaching to friendly hulls. You can still attach RE's to enemy hulls to kill them that way, but not put them on your own and smash into others and cause unnecessary rage. Lastly, saying, "But it's fun, so it should stay." Is not a argument. That's like saying "But the RR is fun, so it should stay as is.". Might be fun for you to be OP, but to the receiving end, it's not fun. At all. Peace, Godin  What's this
Whenever I get jihad-jeeped I bring out an even scarier tank
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Benjamin Ciscko
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:33:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:You really wouldn't enjoy Battlefield much...  Jihad jeeps have been a thing in that for ages and a very effective method with dealing with tankers. Just imagine if CCP made it so ejecting in a dropsuit didn't hurtle you half a mile forward and actually let you go down with some control. Imagine having C4 dropped from 200m in the sky, imagine suddenly having your tank go boom after seeing what looked like bird droppings landing on your tank. The Jihad Lav's might be relatively easy to pull off, but tanking is currently just as easy. If you don't want to take a Lav to the face, just use a Gunlogi and put on two hardeners. There are usually only two types of explosives on them, totaling 10,500 damage. Having one hardener on and a shield extender will allow you to survive that blast and drive away. Two hardeners and you just shrug it off like a redberry shooting your tank with his pistol. Keep the Lavs, it adds more dimensions to the game. I'm an immortal mercenary, I should have more options to take out enemy threats than just shooting them with whatever gun makes boom boom. Just wait till the Jihad Dropships start becoming a thing. No, they aren't. Firstly, you have to jump out for it to work. Secondly, everyone has he spot feature, so you'll see it on the minimap coming at you. thirdly, one shot will kill the driver. Same for the helis that tries and misses the C4. Lastly, I refuse to use another race's vehicles because of broken ****. Yes I know that HAV's are broken, but saying "since X is broken, Y shouldn't be fixed" is even worse; you're implying that everything should stay broken instead of fixing it.
Can confirm Jihad-Jeeps will instapop dual hardened Gunnlogi's with native shields and can a PRO rail gun. I also rarely shoot people out with a blaster turrets yes driver seat no unless I get a lucky rail gun shot that snipes them out which almost make me die of laughter.
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Benjamin Ciscko
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:35:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:JLAV's have brung the same problem as the old AV, but far worse: to be able to easily counter HAV's on a far cheaper price point (somewhere between free and 50k ISK0. and all you have to do is ram the HAV's.
Waahhhhhhh, somewhere between 0 and 50K ISK, for a tank than costs 57K. hmmmmm
57K ISK my ISK grinding soma is 69K that must be a pretty easy tank to splode w/ out JLAV's.
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Benjamin Ciscko
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:56:00 -
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Aleph Rynedee wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You are absolutely a complete ******* idiot. Yet you are the one who is whining about JLAVs, all I did was point out how asinine that idea was. You even claimed that hardeners are the culprit as a way to justify the pwnage of the HAVs but called for the nerf of JLAVs not the hardeners. I stand by my claim that you (the generic tanker) want things both ways, ie you want to sodomize each and every cranberry that crosses your path AND you want them to be armed with nothing more than a soft, purple dildo. In essesence you want to be a demigod, with every other toon bowing in awe in your presence. I'll propose a compromise, the removal of JLAVs against HAVs inability to engage infantry. Sounds fair, you don't have to worry about a effin' Jeep crawling up your anus (not much of a tanker if you are worried about a Jeep, but I digress) and I, as infantry, can go about my business of securing/defending points (you know, the crap that actually wins matches) without thinking about the three tanks spawn camping CRUs/DUs. How's that sound?
Your a F*cking Idiot he wants 1.6 back with 1.7 AV damage in a nut shell maybe a couple things thrown in their but pay attention.
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Benjamin Ciscko
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Posted - 2014.02.24 04:17:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Aleph Rynedee wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You are absolutely a complete ******* idiot. Yet you are the one who is whining about JLAVs, all I did was point out how asinine that idea was. You even claimed that hardeners are the culprit as a way to justify the pwnage of the HAVs but called for the nerf of JLAVs not the hardeners. I stand by my claim that you (the generic tanker) want things both ways, ie you want to sodomize each and every cranberry that crosses your path AND you want them to be armed with nothing more than a soft, purple dildo. In essesence you want to be a demigod, with every other toon bowing in awe in your presence. I'll propose a compromise, the removal of JLAVs against HAVs inability to engage infantry. Sounds fair, you don't have to worry about a effin' Jeep crawling up your anus (not much of a tanker if you are worried about a Jeep, but I digress) and I, as infantry, can go about my business of securing/defending points (you know, the crap that actually wins matches) without thinking about the three tanks spawn camping CRUs/DUs. How's that sound? Your a F*cking Idiot he wants 1.6 back with 1.7 AV damage in a nut shell maybe a couple things thrown in their but pay attention. WOW! Somebody ******* finally gets it! Thank you, I'm not the only sane person here!
I've called for JLAV changes too but what people don't understand is I know tanks are broken their is no denying it it's just that how can you do any of the following double/triple/quadruple the price decrease turret tracking/tank speed slow down turning, or nerf hardeners when you still have LAV's that can instapop you.
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