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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:27:00 -
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if someone is willing to kill themselves out of spite in order to have a chance at destroying an enemy tank, it just goes to show how overpowered tanks are
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:44:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:Tanks do more than their fair share of dominating in this game, and Jihad Jeeping isn't nearly as prevelant as people want to make it. Hell, half the time the tank isn't even killed, and thats if the Jeep even makes it to impact. Everytime I've seen it happen, it's always been a kill. if the driver doesn't make it to the HAV, they're doing it wrong.
If the HAV driver can't kill the Jihad jeep or make them miss, they're doing it wrong.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:50:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:Tanks do more than their fair share of dominating in this game, and Jihad Jeeping isn't nearly as prevelant as people want to make it. Hell, half the time the tank isn't even killed, and thats if the Jeep even makes it to impact. Everytime I've seen it happen, it's always been a kill. if the driver doesn't make it to the HAV, they're doing it wrong. If the HAV driver can't kill the Jihad jeep or make them miss, they're doing it wrong. Like I said, simply putting it on the side of the LAV or inside of it makes it near impossible or impossible to kill said JLAV.
You have a turret, don't you?
options:
1) shoot JLAV with railgun turret 2-3 times and it dies
2) shoot JLAV with Blaster turret from 50 meters out, and kill it before it reaches you
3) annihilate the JLAV with missiles
4) shoot any one the RE's once with any turret gun and destroy the LAV
5) use teamwork and have other people as gunners in the tank with you with small turrets on an easy swivel to see and alert you, as well as decimate any LAV that they come across
6) use an Active scanner and speed boost to dodge the JLAV
7) if the JLAV hits you in the back, it flips over, does no damage to you, and kills itself, so make sure if it does hit you, it hits you in the back
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:54:00 -
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If AV is buffed to usefulness, then i may agree with you
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:05:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
You have a turret, don't you?
options:
1) shoot JLAV with railgun turret 2-3 times and it dies
2) shoot JLAV with Blaster turret from 50 meters out, and kill it before it reaches you
3) annihilate the JLAV with missiles
4) shoot any one the RE's once with any turret gun and destroy the LAV
5) use teamwork and have other people as gunners in the tank with you with small turrets on an easy swivel to see and alert you, as well as decimate any LAV that they come across
6) use an Active scanner and speed boost to dodge the JLAV
7) if the JLAV hits you in the back, it flips over, does no damage to you, and kills itself, so make sure if it does hit you, it hits you in the back
1: railguns are easily dodgable 2: blasters won't have enough time to kill them (in ~2 seconds) 3: read #1 4: Go back to my last post and read it again, as you clearly didn't. 5: Can't fit them due to poor fitting abilities of the new HAV's, and even then, can't reliably find someone to sit in my gunner seat. 6: Read #5 7: doesn't matter from my tests where they hit the HAV, it'll still cause a explosion.
1: get better aim, and shoot them when they aren't within 20 meters of you
2: Then start shooting earlier
3: Missiles will easily decimate any LAV within range if you can aim them
4: I did actually read the post, you can still catch the LAVer unaware and shoot the RE's before they know that you notice them. This is a list of possible counters; not every one will work 100% of the time
5:Then drop a proto hardener or something else. You should be able to find someone to reliably assist you, its what AV has been doing this entire time since 1.7
6: You can easily fit them if you downgrade a hardener or two. Read number 5
7: The explosion won't hurt the HAV unless it is immobile
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:10:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:if someone is willing to kill themselves out of spite in order to have a chance at destroying an enemy tank, it just goes to show how overpowered tanks are, and that tank invincibility to any other tactic needs to go
man, i feel like I'm farming likes
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Posted - 2014.02.24 02:27:00 -
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i say we just do away with hardeners, there too UP, and just give tankers a passive module that grants a 99% resistance to damage. I think its a great idea, it solves the problems of being killed in your 50k isk death machine once every five matches
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Posted - 2014.02.24 03:20:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:JLAV's have brung the same problem as the old AV, but far worse: to be able to easily counter HAV's on a far cheaper price point (somewhere between free and 50k ISK0. and all you have to do is ram the HAV's. People just say, "shoot at it, and it'll blow up". well, put the RE's on the side of the LAV, then slide into it, or better yet, put them inside of it, and then it becomes near impossible/impossible to kill. Also, from a lore stand point, the things are made to not be affected by outside force, so it makes even less sense. Simply put, the best way to fix it is to not allow in attaching to friendly hulls. You can still attach RE's to enemy hulls to kill them that way, but not put them on your own and smash into others and cause unnecessary rage. Lastly, saying, "But it's fun, so it should stay." Is not a argument. That's like saying "But the RR is fun, so it should stay as is.". Might be fun for you to be OP, but to the receiving end, it's not fun. At all. Peace, Godin  What's this Hey!! say thank you!! to all the tankers that kept wanting godmode tanks and wanting av to be useless or require a massive sp investment. Now shutup and enjoy your medicine. All I ever asked for is balance. **** off.
i honestly (no sarcasm, no spiteful condescending attitude from me) want to hear your ideas for balance
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