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Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 128	Posted - 2014.03.18 22:53:00 - [331] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:02:00 - [332] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage. doesn't work when a nitro is involved 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 128	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:05:00 - [333] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage. doesn't work when a nitro is involved It does work. if you can see it coming you would have enough time to make mincemeat of that LAV
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 51	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:07:00 - [334] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage. doesn't work when a nitro is involved It does work. if you can see it coming you would have enough time to make mincemeat of that LAV Not to mention that even LAV's with nitro can't climb hills and retain speed. Tanks climb them like Spiderman.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:07:00 - [335] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage. doesn't work when a nitro is involved It does work. if you can see it coming you would have enough time to make mincemeat of that LAV No, it doesn't. you can get pretty much anywhere in a LAV when you use a nitro. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11398	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:07:00 - [336] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: essentially yes, seeing you cry for 16+ pages pleases me, and i dont want it to stop. also its still a legitimate tactic Not crying, just that I'm arguing with idiots, and it's kinda frustrating. Anyways, nobody deserves to be OP. You're basically just asked to be. I'm saying no. It should get removed. That you can't see the hypocrisy here stuns me. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:08:00 - [337] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Not to mention that even LAV's with nitro can't climb hills and retain speed. Tanks climb them like Spiderman. You're doing it wrong then. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:09:00 - [338] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: essentially yes, seeing you cry for 16+ pages pleases me, and i dont want it to stop. also its still a legitimate tactic Not crying, just that I'm arguing with idiots, and it's kinda frustrating. Anyways, nobody deserves to be OP. You're basically just asked to be. I'm saying no. It should get removed. That you can't see the hypocrisy here stuns me. No, I see none. What are you referring to? 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:11:00 - [339] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: How is it hidden exactly? i told you just need to know maps better and stop whining that an LAV strapped with remotes can kill you because it is cheap. I mean really, how often does a JLAV kill you? if its every game it is because people know you hate it and want to troll you. Knowing maps down't save you from something crashing into you. Maybe you should learn how to drive better, as I've yet to have any driving issues, or ramming issues, unless I'm trying to drive up a steep as hill that there's no way in hell I should be able to anyways. As for number of times, about 5 times every time I log on, and and it's the same result every time. It may not save you 100% of the time but it does help, if you know an LAV is coming for you go to a place where you can get fairly easily but is tricky for the LAV. it works. they cant ram you if they cant get to you. use it to your advantage. doesn't work when a nitro is involved It does work. if you can see it coming you would have enough time to make mincemeat of that LAV You'd be quite surprised how fast you can move in on a HAV. My fastest time was 23 seconds (prep time was 15 seconds, but doesn't count due to how I did it) 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11400	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:11:00 - [340] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: essentially yes, seeing you cry for 16+ pages pleases me, and i dont want it to stop. also its still a legitimate tactic Not crying, just that I'm arguing with idiots, and it's kinda frustrating. Anyways, nobody deserves to be OP. You're basically just asked to be. I'm saying no. It should get removed. That you can't see the hypocrisy here stuns me. No, I see none. What are you referring to? Specifically, 'arguing with idiots' and 'nobody deserves to be OP'. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:13:00 - [341] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: essentially yes, seeing you cry for 16+ pages pleases me, and i dont want it to stop. also its still a legitimate tactic Not crying, just that I'm arguing with idiots, and it's kinda frustrating. Anyways, nobody deserves to be OP. You're basically just asked to be. I'm saying no. It should get removed. That you can't see the hypocrisy here stuns me. No, I see none. What are you referring to? Specifically, 'arguing with idiots' and 'nobody deserves to be OP'. You're repeating the same stupid argument, and only idiots do that. And yes, nobody deserves to be OP. I still don't get it 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11400	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:16:00 - [342] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: You're repeating the same stupid argument, and only idiots do that. And yes, nobody deserves to be OP. I still don't get it 'Repeating the same stupid argument'? This thread is gold. If nobody deserves to be OP, then why is it a problem to have an actual counter to tanks other than more tanks or vast numbers of people? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.19 01:24:00 - [343] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: You're repeating the same stupid argument, and only idiots do that. And yes, nobody deserves to be OP. I still don't get it 'Repeating the same stupid argument'? This thread is gold. Are you doing this on purpose? If nobody deserves to be OP, then why is it a problem to have an actual counter to tanks other than more tanks or vast numbers of people? Yes. Give me something other than "I like them" or "I can't drive, so balanced" or "shoot at them", because none of those works. Anyways, again, you didn't read the OP, did you? That was linked in the OP. You obviously didn't read it, as if you did, you would've saw that, clicked it, read it, and saw that your comment is, once again, invalid. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 128	Posted - 2014.03.19 01:45:00 - [344] - Quote Other than destroying the lav or the driver how else can it be killed? You just dont want them in the game cos it gets rid of your crutch.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1895	Posted - 2014.03.19 01:49:00 - [345] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Other than destroying the lav or the driver how else can it be killed? You just dont want them in the game cos it gets rid of your crutch. You won't kill the pilot or LAV before it kills you, which is my point. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 129	Posted - 2014.03.19 01:52:00 - [346] - Quote No, you cant. Other people seem to be able to.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 162	Posted - 2014.03.19 02:00:00 - [347] - Quote All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 655	Posted - 2014.03.19 02:02:00 - [348] - Quote I'm gonna go ahead and say to NOT allow the continued use of jihad jeeps is racist. Since i'm sure you will call me an idiot no matter what I say, Godin, i'm going to assume you want jihad jeeps removed because you hate muslims. If they are removed, I shall start a petition, to be signed by anyone who could possibly be of arabic descent, whether they play Dust or not, claiming CCP has begun a campaign of racial intollerance and bigotry toward said muslim community. The ensuing fallout will garner world wide attention, and I will become a media darling in the process. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1897	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:13:00 - [349] - Quote lithkul devant wrote: All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic. You want to use real life to argue against balance? Also, are you trying to condone tactics that I'm pretty sure no western country hates and doesn't use like at all? Also, you made the mistake everyone else made: You didn't read the whole thing 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1897	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:22:00 - [350] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm gonna go ahead and say to NOT allow the continued use of jihad jeeps is racist. Since i'm sure you will call me an idiot no matter what I say, Godin, i'm going to assume you want jihad jeeps removed because you hate muslims. If they are removed, I shall start a petition, to be signed by anyone who could possibly be of arabic descent, whether they play Dust or not, claiming CCP has begun a campaign of racial intollerance and bigotry toward said muslim community. The ensuing fallout will garner world wide attention, and I will become a media darling in the process. I assume this is a troll. Either way though, this is ******* stupid. I find Islam as a concept to be interesting tbh. Actually, your comment of infinately more racist (mine was not racist at all), as not all, actually most Muslims are not like that. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-

Proto Annihilator Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 161	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:24:00 - [351] - Quote This guy is starting to sound like those RedStar guys. Its sad when 3people want this and CCP caters to them.
Tectonic Fusion 1262	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:37:00 - [352] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm gonna go ahead and say to NOT allow the continued use of jihad jeeps is racist. Since i'm sure you will call me an idiot no matter what I say, Godin, i'm going to assume you want jihad jeeps removed because you hate muslims. If they are removed, I shall start a petition, to be signed by anyone who could possibly be of arabic descent, whether they play Dust or not, claiming CCP has begun a campaign of racial intollerance and bigotry toward said muslim community. The ensuing fallout will garner world wide attention, and I will become a media darling in the process. Muslims say it's okay to kill us in their holy book LOL Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1897	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:37:00 - [353] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: This guy is starting to sound like those RedStar guys. Its sad when 3people want this and CCP caters to them. It's sad when the entirdity of the community wants things to feel broken.......... You know, due to being drunk atm, I can vividly remember things for some reason. I just remembered this book, and there was a character named Simon. He was the only sane boy on the island, surrounded by savages who wanted to kill. They killed simon, ripped him apart, then let him float off into the ocean, kinda how you guys are trying to do me (but failing horribly at it thankfully). 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 655	Posted - 2014.03.19 03:59:00 - [354] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm gonna go ahead and say to NOT allow the continued use of jihad jeeps is racist. Since i'm sure you will call me an idiot no matter what I say, Godin, i'm going to assume you want jihad jeeps removed because you hate muslims. If they are removed, I shall start a petition, to be signed by anyone who could possibly be of arabic descent, whether they play Dust or not, claiming CCP has begun a campaign of racial intollerance and bigotry toward said muslim community. The ensuing fallout will garner world wide attention, and I will become a media darling in the process. I assume this is a troll. Either way though, this is ******* stupid. I find Islam as a concept to be interesting tbh. Actually, your comment of infinately more racist (mine was not racist at all), as not all, actually most Muslims are not like that. Yea, I was just trolling lol, you said nothing racist. This is just a god awful thread I can't take seriously anymore, yet I can't look away. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1897	Posted - 2014.03.19 04:11:00 - [355] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Dunk Mujunk wrote: I'm gonna go ahead and say to NOT allow the continued use of jihad jeeps is racist. Since i'm sure you will call me an idiot no matter what I say, Godin, i'm going to assume you want jihad jeeps removed because you hate muslims. If they are removed, I shall start a petition, to be signed by anyone who could possibly be of arabic descent, whether they play Dust or not, claiming CCP has begun a campaign of racial intollerance and bigotry toward said muslim community. The ensuing fallout will garner world wide attention, and I will become a media darling in the process. I assume this is a troll. Either way though, this is ******* stupid. I find Islam as a concept to be interesting tbh. Actually, your comment of infinately more racist (mine was not racist at all), as not all, actually most Muslims are not like that. Yea, I was just trolling lol, you said nothing racist. This is just a god awful thread I can't take seriously anymore, yet I can't look away. Well, if only people would be serious. But nobody is ever serious.......... 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 657	Posted - 2014.03.19 04:52:00 - [356] - Quote Well, I think plenty of people are serious. Just a f*cked up situation with 2 sides with completely different views on what the problem is and how to fix it, mixed in with nightmare memories of OP and UP on both sides, and the result is a gap to large to bridge, at least here in the forums. CCP needs to work some heavy vehicle magic, and the final solution may not be perfect and probably won't make everyone happy, and definitely won't happen any time soon. Add in the fact there is still proto to be released of the current vehicles, plus the supposed mtac, apc, heavy aircraft and medium (or light, whichever the dropship is not) aircraft, and yea, this absolutely ridiculous thread (that needs to die already) becomes utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Or not. Who knows. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1897	Posted - 2014.03.19 20:31:00 - [357] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Well, I think plenty of people are serious. Just a f*cked up situation with 2 sides with completely different views on what the problem is and how to fix it, mixed in with nightmare memories of OP and UP on both sides, and the result is a gap to large to bridge, at least here in the forums. CCP needs to work some heavy vehicle magic, and the final solution may not be perfect and probably won't make everyone happy, and definitely won't happen any time soon. Add in the fact there is still proto to be released of the current vehicles, plus the supposed mtac, apc, heavy aircraft and medium (or light, whichever the dropship is not) aircraft, and yea, this absolutely ridiculous thread (that needs to die already) becomes utterly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Or not. Who knows. PROTO vehicles would make the problem worse. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 162	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:34:00 - [358] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lithkul devant wrote: All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic. You want to use real life to argue against balance? Also, are you trying to condone tactics that I'm pretty sure no western country hates and doesn't use like at all? Also, you made the mistake everyone else made: You didn't read the whole thing Alright, I will admit I did not bother with the red text intially, I have read some of your ideas before, some of which that I do in fact like. That being said, if you were to take out JLAV's currently it would provide a much bigger imbalance to the game, to where games would be decided simply by who has the best tanks and by when. Also, JLAV's are not as cheap as what you are making them out to be, 0-50k based on just the vehicle, then you have to usually add the cost of the suit being destroyed in an effort to temporary make a tank flee or to destroy the tank, which the tank value can actually be pretty low, if you use a milita fitted tank which is very effective still the one I currently use runs for roughly 75k. Also, while the tactics of suicide bombing would not be acceptable within the United States/western currently, except in many movies like independence day or many others where the hero crashes the said vehicle into the enemy vehicle to destroy it or damage it majorly you are correct. We've used suicide tactics before as well in the United States just not in a very long time, because we don't usually have to, they are a last resort tactic not a go to tactic. Many of your other ideas would have to be implimented first before JLAV removal would be fair in many senses. Such as having a reasonable way of handling tank spaming, damage changes, etc. Otherwise you are taking away a viable way of defense such as what CCP is doing with taking away 1 gernade of every type including AV gernades, which is to fix one thing and destroy the balance of another.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1200	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:44:00 - [359] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: NOTICE: Several of you (pretty much over 95% Wants to critize me and label myself as a tanker scrub. note that I have also said numerous things about balancing on the vehicle side as well in terms of briging them back down to earth. Nobody was adressing this issue that neds to be fixed (ironically was quick to want to nerf them into the ground however ). If you want to have any smart comments after this, go ahead; you'll just be a idiotic troll. JLAV's have brung the same problem as the old AV, but far worse: to be able to easily counter HAV's on a far cheaper price point (somewhere between free and 50k ISK0. and all you have to do is ram the HAV's. People just say, "shoot at it, and it'll blow up". well, put the RE's on the side of the LAV, then slide into it, or better yet, put them inside of it, and then it becomes near impossible/impossible to kill. Also, from a lore stand point, the things are made to not be affected by outside force, so it makes even less sense. Simply put, the best way to fix it is to not allow in attaching to friendly hulls. You can still attach RE's to enemy hulls to kill them that way, but not put them on your own and smash into others and cause unnecessary rage. Lastly, saying, "But it's fun, so it should stay." Is not a argument. That's like saying "But the RR is fun, so it should stay as is.". Might be fun for you to be OP, but to the receiving end, it's not fun. At all. Peace, Godin What's this Just Shut UP!!!!
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1910	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:41:00 - [360] - Quote lithkul devant wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lithkul devant wrote: All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic. You want to use real life to argue against balance? Also, are you trying to condone tactics that I'm pretty sure no western country hates and doesn't use like at all? Also, you made the mistake everyone else made: You didn't read the whole thing Alright, I will admit I did not bother with the red text intially, I have read some of your ideas before, some of which that I do in fact like. That being said, if you were to take out JLAV's currently it would provide a much bigger imbalance to the game, to where games would be decided simply by who has the best tanks and by when. Also, JLAV's are not as cheap as what you are making them out to be, 0-50k based on just the vehicle, then you have to usually add the cost of the suit being destroyed in an effort to temporary make a tank flee or to destroy the tank, which the tank value can actually be pretty low, if you use a milita fitted tank which is very effective still the one I currently use runs for roughly 75k. Also, while the tactics of suicide bombing would not be acceptable within the United States/western currently, except in many movies like independence day or many others where the hero crashes the said vehicle into the enemy vehicle to destroy it or damage it majorly you are correct. We've used suicide tactics before as well in the United States just not in a very long time, because we don't usually have to, they are a last resort tactic not a go to tactic. Many of your other ideas would have to be implimented first before JLAV removal would be fair in many senses. Such as having a reasonable way of handling tank spaming, damage changes, etc. Otherwise you are taking away a viable way of defense such as what CCP is doing with taking away 1 gernade of every type including AV gernades, which is to fix one thing and destroy the balance of another. Well, balance must be done mostly at once, otherwise, imbalance will always occur (kinda why we use the term balance, as in both sides are equal ). Obviously, it wouldn't be one at a time, or one side then another; it would be the whole damn thing at once. I never said it should be like that, and has been saying the exact opposite this whole time. Anyways, the "taking away 1 AV grenade and flux grenade" was a stupid idea. people on IRC including myself was talking about it, and we came to the conclusion that it was easier for coding reasons (same as for AV damage getting reduced and damage mods getting nerfed for them as well). I would love for the flux and AV nades to go back to where it is now, and AV damage mods to get put into the game. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-



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