DUST Search - JLAV's needs to go

Godin Thekiller wrote:

Derpty Derp wrote:

Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry...
All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting **** to live forever.

... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad.
1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it.
2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol
3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is.
4- If you can't use a large turret for ****, have someone on your side guns shoot at it.
5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill.

Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up.

1: LAV's are faster than you, and LAV's can put nitro on, so invalid

2: You'll blow up too, so invalid

3: HAV's aren't good in rough terrain, most outside objectives aren't near any, and nitro will negate that, so invalid.

4: can't fit the smalls without giving up the enitre fit (and that's only one), and that still won't kill the JLAV. Oh, and that's only the top one. the JLAV has to come from the front for the bottom one to shoot at it (but like that'll do anything), so invalid.

5: I use Maddy's only, and mostly targeted Maddy's in my tests. I had a specific test for a Gunnlogi, and all I did was put more Re's in the LAV, and killed it nicely, so invalid.

6: Not using HAV's until all this broken **** gets fixed, so no kills for you (Not even playing Dust until 1.8 comes out).


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Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 31	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:30:00 - [1] - Quote Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry... All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting ** to live forever. ... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad. 1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it. 2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol 3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is. 4- If you can't use a large turret for **, have someone on your side guns shoot at it. 5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill. Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up.
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 34	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:10:00 - [2] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Jihads are the most balanced thing in the game, takes skill to get that close (unless you're too distracted by that gorgon flying the other side of the map) have to hit with enough force to die (or countdown the redzone timer, easily countered by not being in the redzone) easily blown up even by smgs and other infantry... All you need is a little bit of skill to avoid being jihaded, but apparently the argument against that is that you're in a tank and shouldn't need to do anything other than sit there shooting ** to live forever. ... Here since I like a challenge I'll even tell you the best ways to avoid the Jihad. 1- keep moving away from the Jihad... Don't sit still and definately don't drive into it. 2- If you don't kill it before it gets next to you, don't shoot at because it will BLOW UP! lol 3- situate yourself on rough terrain, you know that crap that tanks are good at moving in, but nothing else is. 4- If you can't use a large turret for , have someone on your side guns shoot at it. 5- Shield hardeners can negate most jihads, or force more bombs! which in turn gives you a bigger target for that all important 1 hit kill. Enjoy it, you're welcome : ) now get running and give me something to blow up. 1: LAV's are faster than you, and LAV's can put nitro on, so invalid 2: You'll blow up too, so invalid 3: HAV's aren't good in rough terrain, most outside objectives aren't near any, and nitro will negate that, so invalid. 4: can't fit the smalls without giving up the enitre fit (and that's only one), and that still won't kill the JLAV. Oh, and that's only the top one. the JLAV has to come from the front for the bottom one to shoot at it (but like that'll do anything), so invalid. 5: I use Maddy's only, and mostly targeted Maddy's in my tests. I had a specific test for a Gunnlogi, and all I did was put more Re's in the LAV, and killed it nicely, so invalid. 6: Not using HAV's until all this broken gets fixed, so no kills for you (Not even playing Dust until 1.8 comes out). You're that bad at the game, that even with easymode tanks you're giving up... 1- LAV's aren't that much faster than a speed boosting tank, if you move away from the jeep, even with boosters going he can't blow himself up on you, unless he gets infront, at which point you stop and move the other direction while shooting... 2- Following step one, if he's next to you, he doesn't blow up because he's got to run off and get more momentum before trying again, all the while you wait for him to move and then shoot... It's not fecking rocket science. 3- HAV's can actually move through rough terrain, while a high speed jeep will either roll over, get stuck with lag or blow up!!! 4- Compromise, it's what you do when you're not good enough to take the **** out yourself! 5- Not invalid, because more bombs = more chance of death, you even the odds, add a hardener add some more hp instead of just pure armour repair, make it harder not impossible... We aren't after a game where tanks are immortal it's exactly what we don't want. 6- fair enough, I'll just have to take on someone with more skill than you instead then.
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 136	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:58:00 - [3] - Quote xSir Campsalotx wrote: I've seen this tank problem from all sides, in a tanker alt, pro forgegunner,in a jihad jeep, and the guy getting stomped in ambush or dom. From these points of view I can say this, jihad jeeps are way easier to kill tanks than anything ever was in the entirety of my time playing and requires no skill with little to no isk. I've killed hundreds of tanks with my assualt forge and I still believe they are in a good place, on a tanker alt that I use often it is very hard to kill jihad jeeps and even harder to see them coming. The only slighty effective counter against jihad jeeps is for a rail tank to destroy all supply depots in the match (if its even possible on that map) this discourages this type of behavior but does not prevent it and is hard to counter. As a guy getting wrecked on ambush or dom I feel the communities pain but it sucks that this community is alienating tankers. This thread has shown me that all anyone wants to do is burn another play style, these comments are mostly without logic, lacking any ideas for improvement and consist of nothing more than childish taunting. If you really believe jihad jeeps are fair bring out an easy mode invincible tank, after you lose the first two with very little fighting chance you'll go back to your pro scout, your pro logi or your pro assualt and laught it off say he got me (he's good) just remember a lot of tankers only have 1 role. As someone who's slowly made his way around every form of AV to try and stop tank spam winning matches I'd like to point out how wrong you are... The easiest way to kill a tank, is with another tank with multiple damage mods on it. I have been spamming tanks to blow up all the enemy tanks (in a hope that at some point in the match they give up and I can fly my dropship and have a little bit of fun before they call out another one) and have been hit by 0 JLAV's, I've seen several and shot them, it's called awareness of your surroundings. As a JLAV you have to first of all avoid all random blue's who want to take your jeep, then you've gotta find the tank, driving up to it without anyone shooting out your bombs (with any weapon!) and then you actually have to detonate by not flipping the thing over the top of the tank. A blaster tank can easily just land 1 shot on any bomb and the whole thing goes up, railguns are slower but you don't even need to hit the bombs to blow it up. In comparison it's much faster and easier to call in a tank in a place the tankers aren't looking (not difficult since 90% of tankers are too stupid to keep an eye on their surroundings) and shoot them from that blind spot you have to drive up to in a JLAV. As far as forge guns go, anything other than militia tanks are easily going to escape even the most powerful of forges... If the tank runs away after the first shot (as they all do) they don't even need the turbo boost formula 1 grade tank to get out of range or behind something before you can get enough shots of to kill it.