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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:39:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:And the rr is better than the ar at everything, how do you not see the imbalance?
GÖª Has less Magazine Capacity GÖª Less RoF GÖª Slower Reload speed GÖª More kick GÖª Hip-fire cross is similar, Hip-fire aim speed at CQ is not GÖª AR has more SP investment to fully upgrade but can end up being more deadly because of this. GÖª AR will benefit a lot More by the 10% RoF increase Assault Bonus GÖª More Fitting requirments
Overall, i think a little advantage in Range and damage per bullet is only fair.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
684
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:41:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:And the rr is better than the ar at everything, how do you not see the imbalance?
It is supposed to be better.
The AR was godly prior to the new weapons dropping. so much so that people were citing lore reasons and everything they could think of to get it nerfed.
"Gallente plasma dissipates quickly! lower the range!" and "AR is too strong in cqc!" "Reduce RoF!" and all the same crap that people like you complain about.
What happened? The AR got a range BUFF and was brought in line exactly like the community wanted.
Now it sucks so guess what that means?
QQ is stupid. That's what it means.
The Rail Rifle is perfect there are just some whiners that think its OP. That's because they HAVE to find a way to invalidate their mistakes. As long as they can blame a common weapon it somehow excuses them from taking responsibility for their mistakes. Got caught in the open at range? That's a mistake. Got mowed down in cqc with your combat rifle? Think about it while you bleed out in your scout suit.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1285
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:50:00 -
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So the solution to an op weapon is to add another weapon that's exactly the same except much more range, it's official you people are either idiots or are depending on your crutch way too much. You can go back to your Rr doesn't make the Ar useless circle jerk, it's a waste of time trying to reason with such ignorant people.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
686
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:52:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:So the solution to an op weapon is to add another weapon that's exactly the same except much more range, it's official you people are either idiots or are depending on your crutch way too much. You can go back to your Rr doesn't make the Ar useless circle jerk, it's a waste of time trying to reason with such ignorant people.
Lol hit the nerve. Made him mad.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
129
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:57:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:So the solution to an op weapon is to add another weapon that's exactly the same except much more range, it's official you people are either idiots or are depending on your crutch way too much. You can go back to your Rr doesn't make the Ar useless circle jerk, it's a waste of time trying to reason with such ignorant people.
Oki just tell me, how is "Gaussie" OP
AR is faster and stable. ScR is more powerfull and have charge mechanique. CR is fast like devil on rocket and ist sharpshooting burst. LR is laserpointer with frying tech of microwave.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2954
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:57:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:So the solution to an op weapon is to add another weapon that's exactly the same except much more range, it's official you people are either idiots or are depending on your crutch way too much. You can go back to your Rr doesn't make the Ar useless circle jerk, it's a waste of time trying to reason with such ignorant people.
Is it necessary to call people idiots when we are offering sound advice and outlook that has helped us to overcome the odds that lay before us?
Could it be that you are crazy for complaining about "fairness" in a universe that's at a constant state of war?
It's a waste of time trying to help people who rather set in their ruts.
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Khemlar Maktaar
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
35
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:02:00 -
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King I think your reply stupid if u don't think RR beats the at at all situations rate of fire means nothing it has same DPS better range better accuracy better damage profile amor is more popular.it also has more damage per clip more spray time more damage carried and the assault version has more DPS then the at like wtf! |
Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
179
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:12:00 -
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Most of our maps are weird. Objectives are centered around multiple. Complexes that are separated by vast tracks of open terrain. The RR, once you get into advanced level and above, can dominate infantry at over 100m out, and herein lies the issue; the game rewards keeping your distance, and the RR is a weapon that will never ask you to get in close. Which is why it's all the more galling that it's perfectly viable in CQC too. Between active scanners that allow you to set up the best possible engagement range (and even angle, when you consider that a scanner will show you the direction of your opponents facing), any drawback of the RR, such as it's minimal spool up time, are made largely irrelevant.
I often run rr and cr on my suits and yeah, the cr is the most broken of the two. Zero dispersion, great range, best hip fire accuracy in the game and the burst fire is really just fully auto by a different name. But most of my kills came from the rr regardless. Why? Be use it can hit anything, from anywhere, any time.
That's a problem that needs to be fixed.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
688
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:24:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Most of our maps are weird. Objectives are centered around multiple. Complexes that are separated by vast tracks of open terrain. The RR, once you get into advanced level and above, can dominate infantry at over 100m out, and herein lies the issue; the game rewards keeping your distance, and the RR is a weapon that will never ask you to get in close. Which is why it's all the more galling that it's perfectly viable in CQC too. Between active scanners that allow you to set up the best possible engagement range (and even angle, when you consider that a scanner will show you the direction of your opponents facing), any drawback of the RR, such as it's minimal spool up time, are made largely irrelevant.
I often run rr and cr on my suits and yeah, the cr is the most broken of the two. Zero dispersion, great range, best hip fire accuracy in the game and the burst fire is really just fully auto by a different name. But most of my kills came from the rr regardless. Why? Be use it can hit anything, from anywhere, any time.
That's a problem that needs to be fixed.
You admit the CR is "worse" but here you are in a RR thread.
You just want the RR to be weak indoors. It is, but not so much that it can't function.
What you want is a weapon that can't function in cqc.
F that, that's dumb.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
70
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:31:00 -
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When I get lazy I grab a lvl one rail rifle, and just hipfire in cqc lol! You can say what you like, but you know were not lying lol! First time I used it it felt as if I was cheating! It's sooo easy! Calling me "butthurt" won't change that, and just makes you look like an idiot who can't debate a topic reasonably?!
In fact! Post the stats next to each other, and let the reader's decide :). None of you RR advocates will dare do that because you know what I'm saying is true. My second grader looked at the stats, and said "daddy use the RR it has crazy dmg!" Lol, and he's in the second grade.
The breach assault rifle, for instance, is a short to mid range weapon offering fully automatic fire. Slow fire rate with high dmg. 51dmg, 400 rpm, clip size 36, and accuracy 56.92. No range stats, thanks ccp, but we all know we're not gonna fire too terribly far with it. It's primarily cqc. At lvl 5 the creadron breach assault rifle has the same fire rate, 56.10 dmg, accuracy 57.96, same clip size, and a higher meta lvl. Oh yeah, and a hefty price tag lol!
The Rail Rifle! It's a fast-firing, precision weapon designed for field OPerations where penetrative power and RANGE are paramount. Note: it's greater range and power are offset by a smaller magizine capacity and lower rate of fire than similarly classified weapons. Lvl 1 RR 55 dmg, rate of fire 461.54 rpm, accuracy rating 58.28, clip size 42. Oh my! It's already better than the lvl 5 creadron breach at everything the creadron is made for with more range and everything else! Wait! Buy a lvl one rail, and outclass lvl 5 AR's for approximately 75,780 isk less!
I could do them all, but I know you all can read. What shocks me is some of you want the AR to be nerfed even more so that the only half decently viable weapon to use against the rail is rendered useless?! That whole charge time is utterly unnoticed when using the RR. The scr's heat build up is a crutch, along with the LR's heat build up. The rail easily beats all other rifles in practical applications, stats be damned, and you know it. You saw that what we all saw, and went full ****** into it sp wise. Now your posting this afraid of the inevitable ccp OP weapon nerfing lol! It's not like they're gonna nerf it into oblivion like everyone seems to want them to do with the AR. Just gonna bring it down like the mass driver.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4276
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:32:00 -
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Khemlar Maktaar wrote:King I think your reply stupid if u don't think RR beats the at at all situations rate of fire means nothing it has same DPS better range better accuracy better damage profile amor is more popular.it also has more damage per clip more spray time more damage carried and the assault version has more DPS then the at like wtf!
I really dont think that. the RR beats the AR 100% of the time if the distance is large enough for the AR to have damage dropoff. Inside the Effective range of the AR, it goes 50%/50%, plus there are a lot of reasons as i explained earlier why one would like to take the weapon with less range.
The RR MIGHT need a slight RoF nerf , later on, but there is no real REASON to nerf it below CR/AR/SCR level only to have the old SCR and AR OP threads we had back up.
The thing is, there will ALWAYS be someone QQ about a rifle.In every game, always. And we cannot stop progress of the game for CCP to take a look on a weapon that is not even so commonly used as you people like to exagerate. Sure the AR has suffered a serious decrease in usage, but its common when the rifle numbers change from 2 to 4. I still see people with SCR and AR's, and i see the same amount of people with CR than RR.
Again, IMO the Boundless CR is a bigger threat because of insane RoF and precision and damage (you can literally fire bursts faster than the RR shoots if your finger is fast enough), but you people are complaining about the RR range, makes me think you are used to run outside of cover ,where OBVIOUSLY the weapon with more range will win.
And then you are complaining about the RR being ''too effective'' at CQ, when i really dont think this is the case, all rifles have similar CQ capabilities , CR being the best , AR tied with SCR (Charged shot) and RR being last due to spool time and low ROF...
First the rest of the weapons need balance.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2957
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:36:00 -
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So many people have no clue what they're talking about. Oh wow, he used a lvl 1 RR and he killed people in CQC! Jim, let's nerf the RR based on that bandwagon hopper's limited field of vision!! That's a man that knows what he's talking about.
That's stupid to say because any good player can dominate on any lvl 1 weapon.
The charge is unnoticed because we have learned our rifles. I tell you, if it was up to you guys, you would turn this game into a cream puff experience and then just leave it alone all together because there is no challenge.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4276
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:40:00 -
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@ Bradric Banewolf ''When I get lazy I grab a lvl one rail rifle, and just hipfire in cqc lol! You can say what you like, but you know were not lying lol! First time I used it it felt as if I was cheating! It's sooo easy! '' Yeah,like you cant just hipfire with ALL the rifles at basic level and do great. Sure.
''In fact! Post the stats next to each other, and let the reader's decide :). None of you RR advocates will dare do that because you know what I'm saying is true. My second grader looked at the stats, and said "daddy use the RR it has crazy dmg!" Lol, and he's in the second grade.'' WEll, DPS maths do not include .25 spool time that reduced the true DPS below all rifles.
The breach assault rifle, for instance, is a short to mid range weapon offering fully automatic fire. Slow fire rate with high dmg. 51dmg, 400 rpm, clip size 36, and accuracy 56.92. No range stats, thanks ccp, but we all know we're not gonna fire too terribly far with it. It's primarily cqc. At lvl 5 the creadron breach assault rifle has the same fire rate, 56.10 dmg, accuracy 57.96, same clip size, and a higher meta lvl. Oh yeah, and a hefty price tag lol! The Breach AR is UP, loosing to MLT weapons consistently. 51 Dmg is nothing because of the LOW ROF and can be surpassed by all rifles.Comparing a specialized ''COPY'' of the RR is not fair.
''The Rail Rifle! It's a fast-firing, precision weapon designed for field OPerations where penetrative power and RANGE are paramount. Note: it's greater range and power are offset by a smaller magizine capacity and lower rate of fire than similarly classified weapons. Lvl 1 RR 55 dmg, rate of fire 461.54 rpm, accuracy rating 58.28, clip size 42. Oh my! It's already better than the lvl 5 creadron breach at everything the creadron is made for with more range and everything else! Wait! Buy a lvl one rail, and outclass lvl 5 AR's for approximately 75,780 isk less!'' The rail rifle is not fast firing (all Rifles shoot faster), it IS precise (same as all Rifles). Again you are comparing an UP weapon with a fully functional one, this is why CCP is buffing the Breach AR. NOT nerfing the RR.
I could do them all, but I know you all can read. What shocks me is some of you want the AR to be nerfed even more so that the only half decently viable weapon to use against the rail is rendered useless?! That whole charge time is utterly unnoticed when using the RR. The scr's heat build up is a crutch, along with the LR's heat build up. The rail easily beats all other rifles in practical applications, stats be damned, and you know it. You saw that what we all saw, and went full ****** into it sp wise. Now your posting this afraid of the inevitable ccp OP weapon nerfing lol! It's not like they're gonna nerf it into oblivion like everyone seems to want them to do with the AR. Just gonna bring it down like the mass driver. I never said the AR needs a nerf, but i do understand that you ARE , in fact a butthurt AR player that finally met his match. ..like the mass driver? so unusable? You are afraid. Its ok bro. Changes are scary. But CCP will not be nerfing the RR just because a small part of the community , mostly Armor tankers that run in the open and AR users, (funny enough, CR,SCR users dont QQ so much about rail rifles). AGAIN,this is not when the TAC or FLaylock were used by 90+% of the people playing dust514.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
71
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Exactly for example. 1 on 1 i havnt lost to a RR unless he starts shooting first because he saw me first (by at least 2-3 seconds of advantage) or attacks me from behind. My SCR will win 99% of those encounters if his in my optimal, if they shoot me outside my optimal, i'll just take cover.
Then I cant say i can take on 3+ guys at the SAME TIME with my SCR ,because i use the Charged shot feature ,this is impossible and would result in overheat, i do see however my AR doing it....
Your just arguing to argue smh?! No AR can take on 3+ RR's in a fight and win?! I don't care what the circumstances are lol! You know that's bull, and your just playing devil's advocate. If that was the case, why does no one ever beat nyain san? Because they all have proto AR's right lol! Last I chaecked their whole squad will run proto RR's and CR's, and wipe you out in an ambush in 2:30 lol! Not breach assault rifle's, or any other rifle's lol!
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
71
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:44:00 -
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I'm done lol! You got it bro lol! I gotta go to work lol! We all know wassup while you, on the other hand, need some glasses lmao!
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4276
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:46:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:I'm done lol! You got it bro lol! I gotta go to work lol! We all know wassup while you, on the other hand, need some glasses lmao!
I actually do need glasses. I am pretty blind!
So you are saying a blind dude fares better vs rail rifles than you.... lulz....
Here have a like for noticing.......
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
130
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:48:00 -
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Gaussie and fast firing?! Thats new for me and i speced on it big times.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1288
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:16:00 -
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Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1125
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:19:00 -
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Yes, it is. I only have one game on an alt when the patch first hit and that is enough to say the rail rifle is too d*mn good at CQ and does not jibe with lore.
That is all the info anybody needs who cares about EVE or the history and lore that CCP has tried hard to promote.
I'm sick of FOTM console mentality and CCP Shangai f*cking with what CCP tried to create with this game.
Honestly, the sniper rifle should have been the only legitimate Caldari rifle to be in this game.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4277
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:21:00 -
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@ Vermaak Doe
'' my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical'' my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar awwww. missing your crutch? Look. as you said it, AR shoots faster, but RR compensates with damage per round. Recoil is SIMILAR (the AR has a lot less) an the range in the RR is compensated by many little fetures the AR has over the RR like less PG consumption,faster reload , more Mag capacity, etc... If you dont like the trade off THEN, you should use the RR sinceyou appreciate the range more than all the other Qualities of the rifle.
''You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? '' 1st- this is not EVE nor a ship game 2nd-The weapon is balanced ,you just cant see it. The fact that you say that something doesnt exists because YOU dont see it does not mean its a fact.
Sorry bro, need to get better arguments here.......
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1289
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:22:00 -
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I would like to emphasize thst I don't think that the rail is op compared to the cr and scr, just that it makes using an Ar redundant.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:23:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I would like to emphasize thst I don't think that the rail is op compared to the cr and scr, just that it makes using an Ar redundant.
in my opinion
FIXED.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:24:00 -
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Trust me i have, now three game and i was mosty killed by AR. Basicaly they start to shoot faster than me and its same story with CR. I know i have big advantage on range, but its just range. And even with range its some time till i put contender down. Hell on medium and short, by my side of view, ARs and CBs are far better.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2962
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:30:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright.
I find it interesting that most of you daisies who don't like my post often try to attack my intelligence when I have been quite easy going and respectable towards you.
Now I'm not that bright? But I think you are a punk that is used to having someone always wipe your tears and kiss your boos boos. Because mainly softies talk you. Always has and always will. They cry about fairness and balance instead of taking charge and making things happen for yourself.
Your fortitude is weak. And you crumble at the sight of difficulty. That isn't the mind of mercenary or warrior. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1289
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:35:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:@ Vermaak Doe
'' my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical'' my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar awwww. missing your crutch? Look. as you said it, AR shoots faster, but RR compensates with damage per round. Recoil is SIMILAR (the AR has a lot less) an the range in the RR is compensated by many little fetures the AR has over the RR like less PG consumption,faster reload , more Mag capacity, etc... If you dont like the trade off THEN, you should use the RR sinceyou appreciate the range more than all the other Qualities of the rifle.
''You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? '' 1st- this is not EVE nor a ship game 2nd-The weapon is balanced ,you just cant see it. The fact that you say that something doesnt exists because YOU dont see it does not mean its a fact.
Sorry bro, need to get better arguments here....... Sorry I forgot to say idiots need not post, however if you must know.
The rail rifle does more damage per magazine, so a larger magazine means nothing
The difference is .20 seconds for a reload.
I can see the imbalance, just compare that stats, but you can ignore the fscts if you want to.
The Eve comment is a generalization, most decent games don't have such a weapon imbalance. What is balanced about a weapon with, identical, and sometimes the same stats except with almost double the range with drawbacks that are too small to make a difference?
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:39:00 -
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Just use the rail as I do, these people are adamant that its not OP so I say spam it. don't like using OP flavor of the month weapons but sometimes all you can do join them they'll get balanced eventually. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1289
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:41:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright. I find it interesting that most of you daisies who don't like my post often try to attack my intelligence when I have been quite easy going and respectable towards you. Now I'm not that bright? But I think you are a punk that is used to having someone always wipe your tears and kiss your boos boos. Because mainly softies talk you. Always has and always will. They cry about fairness and balance instead of taking charge and making things happen for yourself. Your fortitude is weak. And you crumble at the sight of difficulty. That isn't the mind of mercenary or warrior. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work.
Yes, attack my character and mention nothing on topic that I posted I'm sure that'll make you feel good about yourself. And yes, of course I'm taking the easier route when, you're trying to defend something so obviously a complete improvement over another weapon of similar type. So, continue to hide behind your mountain of ignorance, in time it'll be nothing more than pebbles as fact wears it down.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2964
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:42:00 -
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So you don't like using it but since you hate losing and won't learn how to use the prior weapon you were using, you use the "OP" rifle to make a point?
That's kiddish like
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I would like to emphasize thst I don't think that the rail is op compared to the cr and scr, just that it makes using an Ar redundant.
in my opinion FIXED. Compare that stats yourself then, I'll wait.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:43:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright. I find it interesting that most of you daisies who don't like my post often try to attack my intelligence when I have been quite easy going and respectable towards you. Now I'm not that bright? But I think you are a punk that is used to having someone always wipe your tears and kiss your boos boos. Because mainly softies talk you. Always has and always will. They cry about fairness and balance instead of taking charge and making things happen for yourself. Your fortitude is weak. And you crumble at the sight of difficulty. That isn't the mind of mercenary or warrior. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work. Yes, attack my character and mention nothing on topic that I posted I'm sure that'll make you feel good about yourself. And yes, of course I'm taking the easier route when, you're trying to defend something so obviously a complete improvement over another weapon of similar type. So, continue to hide behind your mountain of ignorance, in time it'll be nothing more than pebbles as fact wears it down.
Oh shut up. You called me dumb in your post and now you want to play victim. I'm not here to derail this thread and this will be the last I say to you, but if you wanna talk smack, expect me to throw right back at you. I'm not a pushover here. My name is Michael Arck for a reason.
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