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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:36:00 -
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You are right. Some people don't know what the heck they are talking about. Take for instance, scanning. Hardly anyone used scanners after CCP removed enemy locations from the radar/tacnet. Then the people wanted to get points for the scan targets; assist points. CCP listened and implemented it. The crowd cheered.
Now folks are complaining about so many people scanning. I said this in the beginning. That a merc should want to scan for its benefits, not for the incentives. Doing so will cause plenty of folks to now get scanners because they're WPs involved.
Not one person commented on my posts or felt the same way. Lo and behold, folks are now complaining about scanners at every turn to the point now CCP is changing how they work.
I'm glad you noticed this about the community because its a glaring problem. Instead of looking at the whole picture, most who cry nerf or OP are the ones only considering about their personal experience. Not the end game or how it can affect the game. As long as it works in their favor for the time being, they are happy.
RR is not OP. But truth be told, the SCR and the CR are the real murderers on the field. Especially that damn CR. Those are the two weapons that gives my Caldari dropsuit the shivers. They are both lethal in the right hands.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:43:00 -
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Sebastian Fenn wrote:I've been playing with both a CR, and a RR.
A lot of people are calling out the RR to be overpowered, and i agree. When i can see a heavy in CQC range, and i have a RR i will gun him down without hesitation. Nine times out of Ten he will drop within 5-10 seconds of sustained fire depending on the fit. I'm talking from personal experience here.
For a weapon that's meant to be a fast firing, albeit weaker sniper rifle? That's pretty damn good. Being able to drop a heavy and a couple of people, Then completely destroy anyone who's between 50m and 70m from me after doing so? this is where people start getting the idea that the RR is a little overpowered.
Compared to the CR (My primary choice of rifle) maybe, Seven out of ten engagements with heavy suits i'll take, and even then they have to be facing the other damn way for me to even consider it! With the RR it's just Spool, strafe and fire away. Taking too much damage? why not drop back 20 meters and apply the same amount of damage from there!
The RR needs more hip fire dispersal, and maybe some damage tweaks.
But in all honesty? most of the rifles shine in their given situations.. It's just the RR shines a little brighter than the rest.
Yea, in a damn pub match where folks don't know what they doing. That's no place to judge it from. Take the RR into a PC battle and see how many folks are strapped with CRs
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:34:00 -
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The SCR *shivers*. I make it a point to make sure when I approach a SCR user that I know without a doubt I'm going to get that kill. A SCR will put a player down without hesitation and leave you with your mouth agape wondering what happened. I respect the SCR.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:And the rr is better than the ar at everything, how do you not see the imbalance?
Every weapon has its pros and cons. It is up to the mercenary to find what works best for the weapon he uses for optimal performance. I still go up against Duvolle users who are still lethal with that weapon and put me down.
Learn your weapon.
Quote:
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:57:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:So the solution to an op weapon is to add another weapon that's exactly the same except much more range, it's official you people are either idiots or are depending on your crutch way too much. You can go back to your Rr doesn't make the Ar useless circle jerk, it's a waste of time trying to reason with such ignorant people.
Is it necessary to call people idiots when we are offering sound advice and outlook that has helped us to overcome the odds that lay before us?
Could it be that you are crazy for complaining about "fairness" in a universe that's at a constant state of war?
It's a waste of time trying to help people who rather set in their ruts.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:36:00 -
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So many people have no clue what they're talking about. Oh wow, he used a lvl 1 RR and he killed people in CQC! Jim, let's nerf the RR based on that bandwagon hopper's limited field of vision!! That's a man that knows what he's talking about.
That's stupid to say because any good player can dominate on any lvl 1 weapon.
The charge is unnoticed because we have learned our rifles. I tell you, if it was up to you guys, you would turn this game into a cream puff experience and then just leave it alone all together because there is no challenge.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:30:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright.
I find it interesting that most of you daisies who don't like my post often try to attack my intelligence when I have been quite easy going and respectable towards you.
Now I'm not that bright? But I think you are a punk that is used to having someone always wipe your tears and kiss your boos boos. Because mainly softies talk you. Always has and always will. They cry about fairness and balance instead of taking charge and making things happen for yourself.
Your fortitude is weak. And you crumble at the sight of difficulty. That isn't the mind of mercenary or warrior. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:42:00 -
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So you don't like using it but since you hate losing and won't learn how to use the prior weapon you were using, you use the "OP" rifle to make a point?
That's kiddish like
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:43:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Sigh, because I'm a glutton for punishment I'll reply one last time, and one will quickly turn to many.
@KGB Not mad, but tired of trying to explain simple things
@Sam my only complaint is that it over shadows the Ar, it may shoot faster but the Rr's higher damage per round compensates for the lower rof, and the recoil is identical
@Michael the only advice I've been given in this thread is to use the rail,rifle and stop complaining, not exactly what I would call sound advice. You're forgetting that even in Eve things are balanced by drawbacks which allow other weapons/ships to shine in other scenarios, don't tell me you honestly think that a purely better weapon belongs in any fps? I'm not even asking for fairness, I'm looking for asymmetric balance, which is based on the advantages and disadvantages of weapons to make them unequal but useful.The irony in your post is pretty hilarious, maybe you're not that bright. I find it interesting that most of you daisies who don't like my post often try to attack my intelligence when I have been quite easy going and respectable towards you. Now I'm not that bright? But I think you are a punk that is used to having someone always wipe your tears and kiss your boos boos. Because mainly softies talk you. Always has and always will. They cry about fairness and balance instead of taking charge and making things happen for yourself. Your fortitude is weak. And you crumble at the sight of difficulty. That isn't the mind of mercenary or warrior. Maybe you're in the wrong line of work. Yes, attack my character and mention nothing on topic that I posted I'm sure that'll make you feel good about yourself. And yes, of course I'm taking the easier route when, you're trying to defend something so obviously a complete improvement over another weapon of similar type. So, continue to hide behind your mountain of ignorance, in time it'll be nothing more than pebbles as fact wears it down.
Oh shut up. You called me dumb in your post and now you want to play victim. I'm not here to derail this thread and this will be the last I say to you, but if you wanna talk smack, expect me to throw right back at you. I'm not a pushover here. My name is Michael Arck for a reason.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:04:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:I'm just going to say one thing here, because RR users will never consider that it's OP so arguing stats is pointless.
OP/Arck when your argument becomes "well then just adapt and use this weapon too if it's so much better" you lose credibility because that's frankly a stupid argument. Why do the other weapons exist then? Why bother with trying out new fits and load outs, you know, the WHOLE POINT OF PLAYING DUST instead of some other generic shooter?
You may as well go over there into the reality distortion field currently occupied by spkr4theHAV and tankahiro because you are making the same exact ridiculous argument they are. The best counter for an RR is another RR. Cool, we all run the same exact fitting now. Good job, you fixed dust.
So I lose creditability for stating my opinion? I lose creditability because I come across guys who use the CR that drops me like 3 day old dog turd? Really?
Oh I got it, I'm not saying what the cool kids club are saying...so I lose creditability. Frankly I don't give a **** about the creditability,
I am firm believer that given any time with a weapon, you can maximize its potential. I still go up against guys who drop me with a CR and even a AR for that matter.
And c'mon man, before the BRs yall were complaining about ARs. Yall always complaining. Never looking for a way around a problem, just ***** and moan all the damn time. It's old, especially for folks who call themselves mercenaries in a frentic universal war in New Eden.
So I'm speaking from experience. I actually play the game. I just don't run my mouth on the forum based off of information that is not up to date.
Any weapon can be beast given the right time. The CR is beast itself. But most who just play pubs only see RRs because in pubs folks grab whatever they got killed with and use that weapon. Instead of learning how to maximize the lethality of other choices.
I choose RR because its Caldari. And I still face considerable competition with experienced players who know how to use other rifles.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:47:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Michael Arck wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I'm just going to say one thing here, because RR users will never consider that it's OP so arguing stats is pointless.
OP/Arck when your argument becomes "well then just adapt and use this weapon too if it's so much better" you lose credibility because that's frankly a stupid argument. Why do the other weapons exist then? Why bother with trying out new fits and load outs, you know, the WHOLE POINT OF PLAYING DUST instead of some other generic shooter?
You may as well go over there into the reality distortion field currently occupied by spkr4theHAV and tankahiro because you are making the same exact ridiculous argument they are. The best counter for an RR is another RR. Cool, we all run the same exact fitting now. Good job, you fixed dust. So I lose creditability for stating my opinion? I lose creditability because I come across guys who use the CR that drops me like 3 day old dog turd? Really? Oh I got it, I'm not saying what the cool kids club are saying...so I lose creditability. Frankly I don't give a **** about the creditability, I am firm believer that given any time with a weapon, you can maximize its potential. I still go up against guys who drop me with a CR and even a AR for that matter. And c'mon man, before the BRs yall were complaining about ARs. Yall always complaining. Never looking for a way around a problem, just ***** and moan all the damn time. It's old, especially for folks who call themselves mercenaries in a frentic universal war in New Eden. So I'm speaking from experience. I actually play the game. I just don't run my mouth on the forum based off of information that is not up to date. Any weapon can be beast given the right time. The CR is beast itself. But most who just play pubs only see RRs because in pubs folks grab whatever they got killed with and use that weapon. Instead of learning how to maximize the lethality of other choices. I choose RR because its Caldari. And I still face considerable competition with experienced players who know how to use other rifles. *turns around and comes back to thread* You lose credibility because "adapt and use the RR" is not a valid defense of the argument that it's not OP. Personally, I hate the RR. The spool up annoys me. I prefer the ScR but it takes too much CPU/PG and limits the quality of equipment I can carry so I use the closest equivalent with lower fit costs, the regular CR. But, I'm forced to use the RR on open maps because otherwise I'm killed by a weapon with nearly the same DPS, 40m greater range, and no goddamn bullet trails. I have all 4 racial rifles plus the LR to proto ( yes, I play the game too, it did occur to me to do that before discussing the weapons, but thanks for the advice.). The RR is the only one I don't have prof in (again, I don't like it) but I have no choice, even though I don't have prof 3 like I do the CR it just works too well... it's the only counter to itself, which is not a terrible definition of OP, if you think about it. If "adapting" means everyone has to use the same weapon to compete, then that's bland, generic, boring, and I want no part of it. I say good day to you, sir! *walks away again*
man take that creditability and shove it up your ass
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:59:00 -
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lol yea, try to make it sound like you orchestrated something grand. Corny.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:48:00 -
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The Bad Assery of the RR Great track and video by Bolsh Lee. Loving the snares and the gunfire...great intro
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:08:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if its nerf because of the community. And then the community is going to want a buff. The formula never dies and people never learn.
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