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xSir Campsalotx
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:19:00 -
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Rail rifle same dps as duvolle, twice the range and thus OP. why use a gun that has the same dps but half the range. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:37:00 -
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Oh please I have it prof 3 along with every other rifle, excluding laser it's negligible especially because you can precharge it with everyone knowing where everyone is (scanner spam). Not to mention the fact that big corps like AE and FA have lots of their members running in highly cqc maps. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:39:00 -
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It's my toy too just saying I don't use the duvolle anymore because the rail rifle does its job at twice the range. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:44:00 -
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Hell when everyone runs them (and camps on that wierd mushroom building) gotta be able to fight back. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:53:00 -
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Look man not trying to fight I like all the rifles it's just that each one has a use except the duvolle which has its role taken by the RR and if you really want a cqc weapon comat for the win. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:26:00 -
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Boundless combat rifle like a long range HMG with a smaller clip and none of that dispersion, gotta love it just needs a little gap in between bursts because you can hit 6 taps a second easily. Then it will be balanced and hopefully nerf proof. 
Assault combat= meh projectile duvolle or beast long range sub 
Scrambler=super beast 1vs1 holy weapon, nerf ? Na not really I mean no one can press that 12 times a second unless of course your using a moded controller so possibly a nerf to rof.
Assault Scrambler=meh laser duvolle
Duvolle = meh it's a weapon and its pretty good.
Laser= bad... Since rail rifle came along but technically the same.
Rail rifle=long range duvolle with a blinks worth of spool time and very solid hip fire. Sry buddy but your a little too beast for your own good.
Just my thoughts on the rifles. |
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:34:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:Look man not trying to fight I like all the rifles it's just that each one has a use except the duvolle which has its role taken by the RR and if you really want a cqc weapon comat for the win. '' really want a cqc weapon combat for the win'' This is true +1
Now , WHATS the role of the Duvolle then? In your opinion, whats it supposed to do? IMO its the easiest gun to use and overall effective in both CQ and MEd ranges, without any specialization and great Spray and pray capacity thanks to its Clip Number... Example. Any ADV or PROTO heavy can tank through a volley of SCR RIFLE shots until it overheats and survives. NO HEAVY can take 60 Duvolle shots to the face and survive.
Bradric Banewolf , i'll be ignoring your butthurt comment. I dont use the RR BTW.
I think the duvolle should have most dps least range, but being scrambler is unique with the overheat and semi nature I'd say 2nd highest dps and I don't mean buff it past combat either, because honestly scrambler for some god inspired power. (Highest dps)
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:40:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:xSir Campsalotx wrote:Boundless combat rifle like a long range HMG with a smaller clip and none of that dispersion, gotta love it just needs a little gap in between bursts because you can hit 6 taps a second easily. Then it will be balanced and hopefully nerf proof. Assault combat= meh projectile duvolle or beast long range sub Scrambler=super beast 1vs1 holy weapon, nerf ? Na not really I mean no one can press that 12 times a second unless of course your using a moded controller so possibly a nerf to rof. Assault Scrambler=meh laser duvolle Duvolle = meh it's a weapon and its pretty good. Laser= bad... Since rail rifle came along but technically the same. Rail rifle=long range duvolle with a blinks worth of spool time and very solid hip fire. Sry buddy but your a little too beast for your own good. Just my thoughts on the rifles. They are valuable opinions. +1
I still think the RR is not as COMMON as other FOTM weapons were in the past, there by PROVING its not game breaking OP.
First, CCP should address the lack of effectiveness of OTHER weapons before ''tuning'' the rifles.
If they improve the MD,SG..etc.. BUT NERF rifles, then we will have MD514 again....
Sure probably not duvolle tac OP or flaylock OP so not as big as a problem but hey definitely don't want MD win spam again. |
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:17:00 -
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Well it hasn't changed but back then the strafe meant more, before auto aim so TTK was higher allowing MD users to hit more times and dodge more as well. |
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:19:00 -
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So yes AA problem, lot less scrambler people btw and a lot harder to use. Not easy mode but not hard mode either. |
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:39:00 -
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Just use the rail as I do, these people are adamant that its not OP so I say spam it. don't like using OP flavor of the month weapons but sometimes all you can do join them they'll get balanced eventually. |
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:52:00 -
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I have all the rifles (prof 3)like them all for different reasons but when one outclasses the others the community as a whole will not avoid the weapon because its OP but flock to it instead. (If history has taught us anything) there's no point no one will ever say their toy is OP the only way CCP will balance is through numbers. If more and more people start running it then it will show and I'm now willing to accept the nature of the weapon cycle. If me abusing an OP gun will help push along the hard numbers so be it. |
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:04:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:And the rr is better than the ar at everything, how do you not see the imbalance? It is supposed to be better. The AR was godly prior to the new weapons dropping. so much so that people were citing lore reasons and everything they could think of to get it nerfed. "Gallente plasma dissipates quickly! lower the range!" and "AR is too strong in cqc!" "Reduce RoF!" and all the same crap that people like you complain about. What happened? The AR got a range BUFF and was brought in line exactly like the community wanted. Now it sucks so guess what that means? QQ is stupid. That's what it means. The Rail Rifle is perfect there are just some whiners that think its OP. That's because they HAVE to find a way to invalidate their mistakes. As long as they can blame a common weapon it somehow excuses them from taking responsibility for their mistakes. Got caught in the open at range? That's a mistake. Got mowed down in cqc with your combat rifle? Think about it while you bleed out in your scout suit. No the AR is still OP, we just have more OP stuff right now overshadowing it. Why the hell should anyone use the HMG or Shotgun over CR? Or RR over Laser or MD? Their optimals just aren't worth it, especially when Rifles still beat them inside of it. All Rifle need to be nerfed down to the level of everything else in the game.
So much truth +1 the duvolle was thought OP (and was) then the RR and CR came into being destroying all notion of OP by setting the bar high above that of its predecessor making the duvolle (compared to the new weapons) balanced or UP.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:24:00 -
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+1 to sig Izlare |
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