Stop.

TTK is bad enough, and you propose to buff ALL other weapons instead of nerfing ONE?

Just don't.

Stop.

TTK is bad enough, and you propose to buff ALL other weapons instead of nerfing ONE?

Just don't.

Well, the RR is simply OP because it is incredibly effective in CQC, the one range it is not suppose to be good at much less dominate. Further more, who was the genius that thought tighter hipfire spread makes weapons harder to use in CQC?

There's a reason most games have attributes that make hipfire tighter. Tighter hipfire only increases CQC ability, especially on fast suits.


Honestly though, increase the firing delay to .5 seconds and I guarantee the RR will be balanced.

... Except the RR's dps is equal to or less than the other rifles. Clearly it is not the one reponsible for low TTK, as TTK was an issue befor 1.7.

I do agree that the RR is a very effective weapon, and that it does need a minor balance, maybe increasing the charge to 0.5 would suffice. Maybe, just maybe, making the hip fire spread a little more, currently, its tight spread gives it that CQC ability.

.5 is way to must.

I don't care it you increase the hip fire spread, but leave the spool time alone.

Well, increasing the spool time would cripple it too much in CQC I suppose, but if you leave the spool time, you must dramatically change the hipfire to balance it in CQC.

But it isn't supposed to be good in CQC... it is a MID-LONG RANGE WEAPON.... I don't think anything about should be changed except a rof nerf around 20-30%.

deadlyAztec11 :''Well, the RR is simply OP because it is incredibly effective in CQC, the one range it is not suppose to be good at much less dominate''
GÖª The RR ''dominating'' in CQ is perception not a hard fact. The weapon i designed to be good at ALL ranges not only long ranges. Its a rifle , which are designed for this. If it only worked at long ranges , it would be considered a niche weapon same as the Laser R.

So then the AR is a niche? It doesn't do well in long range, and mid range belongs to the CR and RR. The only range it does good in is 0-48 and at this range it's only balanced with other rifles. And this isn't no "perception" I have both AR and RR specced to level 5.

Kane Fyea:''I think all the rifles are OP (By rifles I mean the Rail, Combat, Scrambler, and Plasma rifles). They're clearly better then most other weapons in this game''
GÖª Nope. Incorrect. More like the rest of the weapons are Underpowered. Weapons like the shotgun and the LR need to be buffed to overpower Rifles in their niche, say Shotgun being overall OP at close range 1 HKO all light suits ,1 HKO med frames and 2 HKO Heavies and Tanked med frames.

This game does not allow for the existance of 1HKO weapons due to the ISK system, because of this the shotgun will never fill its proper role before it receives a hellstorm of nerf requests that CCP will unfortunately have to comply with. Reduction in the costs of dropsuits or increases to ISK gains would allow for the shotguns to be good again.

Vermaak Doe:''Most of the rail rifle complaints are based in hard facts, do the math and you'll see how the rail rifle is almost identical to the Ar's dps except with 30km more optimal and an almost ignorable charge time.''
Logi Bro:''Stop.
GÖª There are no Hard facts, Most other rifles out DPS the Rail rifle ,not to mention they all apply MORE damage in less time due to RoF. Calculate this, i 5 seconds how many times you can shoot a CR and how many bullets come from a RR. Remember , each R1 press from a combat rifle does 96 AT LEAST with a STD CR, while being able to shoot faster than the RR.


Yeah your counter argument is blatant misinformation, the highest DPS rifle is the RR, although the CR and ScR can achieve much higher DPS it is extremely difficult to achieve these DPS numbers. For example the ScR will overheat before it can reach its maximum DPS number, if it does all your shots HAVE to connect or it will overheat. As for the CR it can only max around 500 DPS in a non-laggy game, whenever there is lag its DPS gets cut down to around half making it the weakest rifle. As for the AR it remains as the lowest DPS rifle, although the DPS difference between the RR is small the RR does have higher DPS by around 2 points but it can apply its DPS at almost 50% the range, from close quarters to 80meters it's DPS remains the same.

Logi Bro:''Stop.
TTK is bad enough, and you propose to buff ALL other weapons instead of nerfing ONE?''
GÖª TTK is not bad enough.Actually is pretty fine and its mostly a Forum myth.Compared to Every other single FPS out there , dust gives you the ability to tank suits enough to take simultaneous fire from multiple enemies for a good 2+ seconds and survive.The perception that TTK is low comed from the fact we PAY for our suits and weapons, and we think that a PROTO suit that costs 150k+ than the ADV one deserves to last 5+ seconds more,and this is incorrect. want to last longer? tank a heavy.

TTK became a problem when regardless of what suit you use you will still die at roughly the same amount of time. If adding HP or adding speed etc increased your TTK even slightly it wouldn't be so much of a problem. For example lets say X gun does 400 damage per second. Your suit has 400 base HP, that means you die in 1 second. Now you have modules on your suit, so your HP is 700, that means your TTK increase from 1 second to 1.75 seconds. That is a very small difference.

Kane Fyea:''I think all the rifles are OP (By rifles I mean the Rail, Combat, Scrambler, and Plasma rifles). They're clearly better then most other weapons in this game''
GÖª Nope. Incorrect. More like the rest of the weapons are Underpowered. Weapons like the shotgun and the LR need to be buffed to overpower Rifles in their niche, say Shotgun being overall OP at close range 1 HKO all light suits ,1 HKO med frames and 2 HKO Heavies and Tanked med frames.

Not OP? This is the silliest weapon I-¦ve seen since early Beta. Please.. Stop talking nonsense.