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D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1523	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:04:00 - [151] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son, the Minmatar Assault was never worth running. Hell l, the only time it was ever decent was back when the hit detection was screwy. bump Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Cyrius Li-Moody 3351	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:07:00 - [152] - Quote The new assault bonus looks good. Flaylock will still be crap even with that many rounds compared to every other side arm. MD will still get you killed before you can fire a 3rd round but the two matari weapons that do work (smgs and cr) will be sitting comfortably. Now, lets give the suit a not crap layout and stats and we might have something worth using here. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 480	Posted - 2014.02.08 19:39:00 - [153] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: D legendary hero wrote: minmatar suit should have the folowing stats in this order. minmatar scout = shield recharge delay 1.5 sec, shield recharge 45hp/s. inate armor rep 3hps minmatar medium frame (assault and logi) = shield recharge delay 2 seconds, sheild recharge 35hp/s. innate armor rep. 2hp/s minmatar heavy frame = shield recharge delay 2.5 seconds, shield recharge 45 hp/s. innate armor rep 2hp/s DUde, if SOMEONE HERE deserves NATURAL REPAIR in their suits , Are the AMARR, NOT the minmatar ok? Armor repair rates should be gallente having the highest, then minmitar and amarr with 1 each, then caldari with 0 Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1540	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:23:00 - [154] - Quote we need this buff to be a playable race Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 499	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:44:00 - [155] - Quote Ill say it again-5% bonus to minmitar move/ sprint speeds, ameliorate the strafing reduction on the minmitar suits only, and give kin cats a greater stacking penalty, but also have them affect move speed by 1/2 their bonus to sprint speed. Then, fix shield modules, see my signature for more, and give minmitar suits superior shield regen, and highish armor regen (second only to gallente). Boom. Balance. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1552	Posted - 2014.02.11 04:07:00 - [156] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill say it again-5% bonus to minmitar move/ sprint speeds, ameliorate the strafing reduction on the minmitar suits only, and give kin cats a greater stacking penalty, but also have them affect move speed by 1/2 their bonus to sprint speed. Then, fix shield modules, see my signature for more, and give minmitar suits superior shield regen, and highish armor regen (second only to gallente). Boom. Balance. ^^this Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 507	Posted - 2014.02.11 04:53:00 - [157] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill say it again-5% bonus to minmitar move/ sprint speeds, ameliorate the strafing reduction on the minmitar suits only, and give kin cats a greater stacking penalty, but also have them affect move speed by 1/2 their bonus to sprint speed. Then, fix shield modules, see my signature for more, and give minmitar suits superior shield regen, and highish armor regen (second only to gallente). Boom. Balance. ^^this We need more people to see the light, honestly Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
TYCHUS MAXWELL Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 24	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:22:00 - [158] - Quote I think we will be better after 1.8 maybe, CCP has been talking a lot about raising the TTK which I think will benefit our suits the most. The minnie assault out of all the suits is the one that can bounce back the fastest after sustaining damage to shielding and armor while staying highly mobile and have room for damage mods when desired. Right now we are in the same boat as the scouts where if a suit so much as bats an eyelash at us we die. This suit was meant to rush from cover to cover and flank the more superior racial assault suits, however the TTK means we pretty much always die while rushing between cover. At least, this is what I did when I first started speccing into minnie before they boned us with each sequential update, because we sadly share a lot of the attributes with the primary offenders of FOTMs.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1555	Posted - 2014.02.11 22:48:00 - [159] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I think we will be better after 1.8 maybe, CCP has been talking a lot about raising the TTK which I think will benefit our suits the most. The minnie assault out of all the suits is the one that can bounce back the fastest after sustaining damage to shielding and armor while staying highly mobile and have room for damage mods when desired. actually this is the problem. Minmatar have the second worst recover in the game as is right now. Quote: Right now we are in the same boat as the scouts where if a suit so much as bats an eyelash at us we die. This suit was meant to rush from cover to cover and flank the more superior racial assault suits, however the TTK means we pretty much always die while rushing between cover. At least, this is what I did when I first started speccing into minnie before they boned us with each sequential update, because we sadly share a lot of the attributes with the primary offenders of FOTMs. yep... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1556	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:04:00 - [160] - Quote bump Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça

D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1558	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:07:00 - [161] - Quote minmatar suit should have the folowing stats in this order. minmatar scout = shield recharge delay 3 sec, shield recharge 45hp/s. inate armor rep 2hps minmatar medium frame (assault and logi) = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, sheild recharge 35hp/s. innate armor rep. 1.5hp/s minmatar heavy frame = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, shield recharge 45 hp/s. innate armor rep 1hp/s these are the new numbers the old numbers would have been broke. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6978	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:09:00 - [162] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: minmatar suit should have the folowing stats in this order. minmatar scout = shield recharge delay 3 sec, shield recharge 45hp/s. inate armor rep 2hps minmatar medium frame (assault and logi) = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, sheild recharge 35hp/s. innate armor rep. 1.5hp/s minmatar heavy frame = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, shield recharge 45 hp/s. innate armor rep 1hp/s this is the new numbers the old numbers would have been broke. Why do you get armour rep bonuses? You don't even armour tank? Technically since the Amarr have vastly superior armour technologies and have for near of 300 years we should get a 5 hps armour regen bonus. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 526	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:10:00 - [163] - Quote logi needs a longer delay than assault, and heavy needs a 5 second delay at least, but other than that i agree Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1558	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:11:00 - [164] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: logi needs a longer delay than assault, and heavy needs a 5 second delay at least, but other than that i agree logi needs shorter delay than assulat actually because of lower stats heavy has just as much ehp as a galente assault. it needs the delay. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 526	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:11:00 - [165] - Quote True Adamance wrote: D legendary hero wrote: minmatar suit should have the folowing stats in this order. minmatar scout = shield recharge delay 3 sec, shield recharge 45hp/s. inate armor rep 2hps minmatar medium frame (assault and logi) = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, sheild recharge 35hp/s. innate armor rep. 1.5hp/s minmatar heavy frame = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, shield recharge 45 hp/s. innate armor rep 1hp/s this is the new numbers the old numbers would have been broke. Why do you get armour rep bonuses? You don't even armour tank? Technically since the Amarr have vastly superior armour technologies and have for near of 300 years we should get a 5 hps armour regen bonus. We actually have a 1/s bonus on med frames, and i think its because we are guerrilla fighters, whereas amarr are brick tanked and slow but durable. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6978	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:14:00 - [166] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: True Adamance wrote: D legendary hero wrote: minmatar suit should have the folowing stats in this order. minmatar scout = shield recharge delay 3 sec, shield recharge 45hp/s. inate armor rep 2hps minmatar medium frame (assault and logi) = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, sheild recharge 35hp/s. innate armor rep. 1.5hp/s minmatar heavy frame = shield recharge delay 3.5 seconds, shield recharge 45 hp/s. innate armor rep 1hp/s this is the new numbers the old numbers would have been broke. Why do you get armour rep bonuses? You don't even armour tank? Technically since the Amarr have vastly superior armour technologies and have for near of 300 years we should get a 5 hps armour regen bonus. We actually have a 1/s bonus on med frames, and i think its because we are guerrilla fighters, whereas amarr are brick tanked and slow but durable. Indeed but that doesn't explain how your inferior armour based tech gets a natural repping bonus...but superior amarrian tech does not. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 526	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:20:00 - [167] - Quote because superior minmitar technology has auto repairing capabilities. We are the mechanics of NEw Eden after all, with the rep tool and demolitions. Amarr has inferior armor without these capabilities, but because they are such an oppressive race, they can put as much armor on their suits as they would like Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1565	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:49:00 - [168] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: because superior minmitar technology has auto repairing capabilities. We are the mechanics of NEw Eden after all, with the rep tool and demolitions. Amarr has inferior armor without these capabilities, but because they are such an oppressive race, they can put as much armor on their suits as they would like ^^this. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1575	Posted - 2014.02.14 22:33:00 - [169] - Quote sign and comment Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1088	Posted - 2014.02.14 22:55:00 - [170] - Quote I saw a M1 Series today with 500+ shields and instant recharge Needless to say he wrecked face with his CR

D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1585	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:44:00 - [171] - Quote The flaylock will never get buffed. People keep moving to nerf everything that is minmatar. They are going to nerf SMGs, they want to cripple the CR, the HMG is already garbage, mass drivers are a joke, and flaylocks are laughable at best. Minmatar assult suits are garbage, minmatar logi's are pathetic, minmatar scouts have no purpose and the minmatar heavy is goingt o be the weakest with no actual difference in movement speed among the heavies. all in all, the minmatar as a race are inferior to every other race in just about every regard in dust. This isn't entirely CCP's fault. CCP gave minmatar weakness many glaring weakness but tried to balance those weaknesses with wonderful advantages... The community as a whole continues to complain about every advantage something minmatar has until it gets nerfed. Now, the minmatar race is inferior in every regard to the other races (primarily galente and caldari, but also amar in most respscts). So, if the minmatar are going to be so bad, and we have to try that much harder to get the same results, they should eliminate the race and give back SP. My idea is this. If something minmatar is weak, ask to have it buffed. if the community refuses to let it get buffed to an efficient level, then remove the weapon/suit and refund the SP. its only fair. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1585	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:45:00 - [172] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I saw a M1 Series today with 500+ shields and instant recharge Needless to say he wrecked face with his CR I saw a caldari assault with 700+ shields and a RR. He killed 5 heavies back to back. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3651	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:46:00 - [173] - Quote 500 shields on an M1-series? That's a load of bs. Literally impossible. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1587	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:57:00 - [174] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: 500 shields on an M1-series? That's a load of bs. Literally impossible. yep, that guy was just another troll. minmatar could never reach that except at proto, but at the proto level every other race far surpasses them. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 827	Posted - 2014.02.16 21:40:00 - [175] - Quote They keep nerfing me, and I keep killing them. Oh the shame the scum Aamar must feel when they get their "Superior" soldiers decimated by a savage wrapped in duct tape wielding a primitive projectile based weapon or a sharpened stick. Where in your religious texts does it say anything about adaptation to overcome adversity, scum Aamar. I spit in the face of your beloved empress. You shoot me with lasers, I'll hide in the trees and put a piece of lead through the soft spot where your helmet meets your neck. You call down your gargantuan golden heavies from the skys only to have their massive armored frames turned into shrapnel tearing through your forces when I detonate an explosive under the sand. You know nothing of my ways, or of my hatred for you and your kind, and I will not stop until every last Aamarian man, woman and child burns in my wake. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1603	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:57:00 - [176] - Quote we want change Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7202	Posted - 2014.02.17 23:34:00 - [177] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: we want change ALL YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE BELONG TO US! "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 666	Posted - 2014.02.17 23:37:00 - [178] - Quote the best way to balance would be to rebalance shield and armor modules and then buff the regen delay and regen rate on minmitar suits link Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1606	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:40:00 - [179] - Quote Had a thought today, maybe it's a bad thought - you tell me. Minmatar suit bonus, for assault i suppose: built in personal ammo regeneration, prolly for grenades too, but not too fast. Thoughts? I support SP rollover.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7229	Posted - 2014.02.18 03:43:00 - [180] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Had a thought today, maybe it's a bad thought - you tell me. Minmatar suit bonus, for assault i suppose: built in personal ammo regeneration, prolly for grenades too, but not too fast. Thoughts? Nice idea but how does that make sense lore wise? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha



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