DUST Search - Why are all minmatar suits losing their base armor rep rate in 1.8?

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

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Wow. I don't think I have ever seen a post so full of inaccuracies.

Lets start from the beginning.

Base Strafe has been the same on all suits since ~1.4

We have 1 more slot than you, and the ever amazing 5/2 layout (CPU heavy on a suit with less CPU and PG than the Amarr Assault)

"You can fit everything at everytime" Once again, the MK.0 Assault has LESS CPU and PG than the Amarr AK.0. Invalid.

OP weapons:

SMG: Yeah that thing is amazing, but have you ever used the ScP? It's deadly in it's own way.

CR: Once again, great gun. But the ScR is JUST as deadly. Charge shot headshots will insta-kill more than half the suits in the game. It also boasts the highest DPS in the game with a fast enough trigger finger and damage mods.

HMG: It's a freaking HMG. Get over it. It's SUPPOSED to ruin your day.

Mass Driver: Almost useless right now. Almost

Locus: You can use that crap too.

Remote: You're complaining about remotes? Holy hell you're butthurt.

Repair Tool: And now you're complaining about rep tools? DEAR GOD.

About learning how to play:
Stacking armor plates on a speed suit means you're stupid. Because Speed lets you dodge bullets. AA much? Speed tanking is almost useless right now except for overall mobility.

"Play with Dampener, Play with Biotic, Play with Hack modules". WE ONLY HAVE TWO LOW SLOTS.

"Stop Complaining" What was this entire post about? Hypocritical no?

"Racial Bonus is 2x as great" Debateable. Sidearm bonus is great, and so is hack speed, but you gotta remember, the Amarr Assault bonus turns the ScR into a MONSTER. With a reduction to heat build up on top of quickened heat dissipation, the Amarr Assault can spam shots with it all day.

"Amarr Bonus always sucks" See above.

"Open your [CENSORED] eyes"

Open YOUR EYES. I could eat a bowl of spaghetti O's and defecate a better argument than this.

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Princess Abi-Hime Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 1240	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:47:00 - [31] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's only one hp/s. Besides, the Minmatar are more shields than armor. You guys have strong weapons and weak suits. Glass cannons. It fits better with the lore on the Gallente. Active Scanners negate glass cannon suits. Yep, and it's not as though the Minassault can really fit decent dampeners without a huge sacrifice. The Metalhead Mercenary
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6077	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:02:00 - [32] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: People just don't like minmatar, mass driver's been bitched about, still is. Combat rifle wil FORVER be bitched about, flaylock was bitched about till it became useless outside of suicide fits, and SMG was on the nerfing block for quite a while there. Just wait til we get min HAV's or min sniper. Shotty anyone? same happenned all the time in eve online, minmattar always get the nerf hammer Don't you two start bitching. Until you've been on the other end of a Thrasher fleet with a couple of neuting ships with their ludicrously good Alpha you aint got nothing to complain about. And everyone bloody well like the Minmatar. They are boring ass freedom junkie faction that everyone picks cuz "FREEEDOM". "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2196	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:17:00 - [33] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Minmatar are mainly shield tankers. If anything they should have less buffer than the Caldari but faster recovery. I always thought is was a Light Hybrid with emphasis on shields. They do need better regen though. Caldari should be the Huge Shield tank with decent regen. Minmatar should have a smaller shield tank, with a decent amount of armor and better regen. Think of it like this. Cal Assault: 630 shields, 180 armor. Great shield recharge times, decent shield regen times. Min Assault: 420 shields, 250 armor. Decent shield recharge times, Great Shield recharge times. In short, the Min Assault would be less tanky, but have more speed and better recharge. They can run from combat, so they don't need a good recharge time, but they need to get back in the fight, so they have a good regen. Cal assault has a huge tank, is slower, but has great recharge times. This lets them have a better, constant regen over the burst style gameplay that a Minmatar Assault runs. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2736	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:27:00 - [34] - Quote In a way I'm happy for it because it makes it easier for me to dump Minmitar Logi and not look back. Hacking bonus: Gone Self repair: Gone All deployable equipment: Nerfed Repair tool rewards: Nerfed* Low eHP suit encouraged to run frontline medic in the heat of battle: Stupid *Faster reps = fewer repair cycles = fewer WPs earned
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1474	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:29:00 - [35] - Quote If the MinAssault is meant to be a hit and run flanker/single-engagement suit its bonuses/inherent abilities should apply to some or all of: Speed, biotics, damping, recharge/repair rate, alpha damage/dps. The suit as it stands is not and will never be a frontline assault suit - if it's not that, what is it? I support SP rollover.
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1436	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:36:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: People just don't like minmatar, mass driver's been bitched about, still is. Combat rifle wil FORVER be bitched about, flaylock was bitched about till it became useless outside of suicide fits, and SMG was on the nerfing block for quite a while there. Just wait til we get min HAV's or min sniper. Shotty anyone? same happenned all the time in eve online, minmattar always get the nerf hammer Don't you two start bitching. Until you've been on the other end of a Thrasher fleet with a couple of neuting ships with their ludicrously good Alpha you aint got nothing to complain about. And everyone bloody well like the Minmatar. They are boring ass freedom junkie faction that everyone picks cuz "FREEEDOM". Stop complaining about popularity. It's your own fault you have bad tastes. Users found this review helpful.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1339	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:49:00 - [37] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: If the MinAssault is meant to be a hit and run flanker/single-engagement suit its bonuses/inherent abilities should apply to some or all of: Speed, biotics, damping, recharge/repair rate, alpha damage/dps. The suit as it stands is not and will never be a frontline assault suit - if it's not that, what is it? precisely. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1339	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:50:00 - [38] - Quote Skihids wrote: In a way I'm happy for it because it makes it easier for me to dump Minmitar Logi and not look back. Hacking bonus: Gone Self repair: Gone All deployable equipment: Nerfed Repair tool rewards: Nerfed* Low eHP suit encouraged to run frontline medic in the heat of battle: Stupid *Faster reps = fewer repair cycles = fewer WPs earned basically CCP is racist....lolol they commited genecide against the minmatar Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1339	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:56:00 - [39] - Quote Princess Abi-Hime wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's only one hp/s. Besides, the Minmatar are more shields than armor. You guys have strong weapons and weak suits. Glass cannons. It fits better with the lore on the Gallente. Active Scanners negate glass cannon suits. Yep, and it's not as though the Minassault can really fit decent dampeners without a huge sacrifice. even without considering the strong punch, glass jaw approach... Everyone else can tank harder and still equip minmatar tech. Amarr have the over-heat damage and other factors that make running amar with lazer weapon work well. Minmatar weapons dnt have anything like that. So i can be a decked out galente assault or caldari assault and run minmatar guns and be strong and have perfect tankage. so in essences galente and caldari do better than minmatar with their own weapons. caldari and galente have marginally slower speed, 25-40% more ehp and can carry minmatar tech without consequence. why go minmatar... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1339	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:58:00 - [40] - Quote run speed doesn't mean that much when everyone else can keep up to you and still line up their shots. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6084	Posted - 2014.01.22 20:00:00 - [41] - Quote First Prophet wrote: True Adamance wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: People just don't like minmatar, mass driver's been bitched about, still is. Combat rifle wil FORVER be bitched about, flaylock was bitched about till it became useless outside of suicide fits, and SMG was on the nerfing block for quite a while there. Just wait til we get min HAV's or min sniper. Shotty anyone? same happenned all the time in eve online, minmattar always get the nerf hammer Don't you two start bitching. Until you've been on the other end of a Thrasher fleet with a couple of neuting ships with their ludicrously good Alpha you aint got nothing to complain about. And everyone bloody well like the Minmatar. They are boring ass freedom junkie faction that everyone picks cuz "FREEEDOM". Stop complaining about popularity. It's your own fault you have bad tastes. Fashion, slaves, Gold? The Amarr have the best tastes. We bring the Swag toi Dust 514 #AmarrSwagDUST514 "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1438	Posted - 2014.01.22 20:38:00 - [42] - Quote lolGold. Your obsession with that gaudy metal is on par with bad rappers. Have fun with your gold grills and listening to 2Chainz. We minmatar are naturally chic. Users found this review helpful.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1346	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:41:00 - [43] - Quote basically what do minmatar suits have that other suits can't easily make up for with still more EHP? Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1354	Posted - 2014.01.25 23:52:00 - [44] - Quote bump Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
OverIord Ulath Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.26 00:05:00 - [45] - Quote Change the assault suit bonus to PG/CPU reduction to light weapons and sidearms so that it parallells the logi's equipment bonus, then give the Minmatar the RoF bonus instead of the damage mod bonus. Boom. Minmatar assault is the DPS glass cannon that it needs to be without any further nerfs than it's already recieved. Sans the 1hp/sec removal.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 244	Posted - 2014.01.26 00:46:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: D legendary hero wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1730164#post1730164 The base armor repping for minmatar really added to their play style especially since they have lower ehp than the other races. The fact that they are only marginally faster than galente and caldari doesn't help. So taking this away really just makes them bad tbh. Caldari more shields gallente more armor amar more stamina minmatar less ehp and 1 more meter per second run speed? really? just remember minmatar tech is at its best inside the ranges of amar and caldari, and only slightly outside the ranges gallente weaponry. so basically minmatar aren't worth running unless you get full proto, in wich case you might as well just use gallente or caldari. 3 out of the 5 minmatar weapons are pretty much uncompetetive, so im begining to think CCP has it out for minmatar. EDIT: this is a repost. meant to put this in general discusion The min scout at least needs 1 hp/s. Also, i think that minmitar scouts need a 5% speed increase, and all other scouts need a 3% increase. This would be nice to see on the medium frames as well, and perhaps the commando, to emphasize the speediness of the Minmitar. In return for this, all other races should get a 20 hp base bonus to their base hp type (for amarr, both) Yeah Min Scouts need so much more than they already have don't they? Cant tell if sarcasm or just ignorance... Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 244	Posted - 2014.01.26 00:49:00 - [47] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: basically what do minmatar suits have that other suits can't easily make up for with still more EHP? They can hack faster which is better than having more stamina, better scan range, lower profile, or better scan precision, because think about what would happen if all the people who run minmitar suits used an ungimped suitGÇªthey would be invincible because of how good they have gotten. Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4124	Posted - 2014.01.26 00:50:00 - [48] - Quote Dirty Console Peasant
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1355	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:19:00 - [49] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: D legendary hero wrote: basically what do minmatar suits have that other suits can't easily make up for with still more EHP? They can hack faster which is better than having more stamina, better scan range, lower profile, or better scan precision, because think about what would happen if all the people who run minmitar suits used an ungimped suitGÇªthey would be invincible because of how good they have gotten. sorry... it doesnt matter how fast I can hack if someone insta kills me and hacks it back anyway... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3166	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:22:00 - [50] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son, the Minmatar Assault was never worth running. Hell l, the only time it was ever decent was back when the hit detection was screwy. Actually regynum does pretty well with the minmatar assault Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?

D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1355	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:30:00 - [51] - Quote seriously. Think about this. Every other suit has something they are extremely good at except minamatar. how so? A galente can't out shield tank a caldari. But, both caldari and galente can both out speed tank a minmatar. I mean having speed is nice but low EHP doesn't really make up for it.... Running fast and being able to inately recover is different because you can escape combat and recover. This is HIT and RUN minmatar tactics. but low ehp and easily surpassable stats is just broken. Also, consider this.... minmatar are supposed to be the most versitile race. So, what minmatar are supposed to be more modular than other dropsuits? I wish. Every dropsuit is customizible. So, pretty much every dropsuit is versitile. Its not like minmatar have more slots than the other suits and more CPU/PG. ie at proto have the maximum number of slots available (5 high, 5low, etc). so saying, "minmatar are versitile" while giving everyone else more or less the same customizability is ludacris. Essentially minmatar are just cheaper, marginally faster, but horrible weaker versions of other REAL suits. minmatat suits should just plain have higher base ehp and the inate armor rep on each suit, logi included. Their base EHP should be lower by the same amount that their speed is higher than the other suit. I would say 5%-10% less. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1355	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:34:00 - [52] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Minmatar are mainly shield tankers. If anything they should have less buffer than the Caldari but faster recovery. I always thought is was a Light Hybrid with emphasis on shields. They do need better regen though. Caldari should be the Huge Shield tank with decent regen. Minmatar should have a smaller shield tank, with a decent amount of armor and better regen. Think of it like this. Cal Assault: 630 shields, 180 armor. Great shield recharge times, decent shield regen times. Min Assault: 420 shields, 250 armor. Decent shield recharge times, Great Shield recharge times. In short, the Min Assault would be less tanky, but have more speed and better recharge. They can run from combat, so they don't need a good recharge time, but they need to get back in the fight, so they have a good regen. Cal assault has a huge tank, is slower, but has great recharge times. This lets them have a better, constant regen over the burst style gameplay that a Minmatar Assault runs. exactly. If the minmatar have the same relationshp to caldari as galente to amarr things would be balanced. Galente have less armor tank than Amarr (in eve) but they repair armor faster and continuously. Minmatar should have less shield than Caldari but recharge their shields faster and continously (or whatever is equivalent). Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1355	Posted - 2014.01.26 02:35:00 - [53] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: to be fair minmatar suits shouldn't have ever had that bonus as it made no sense given they prefer shield tanking. to be fair amar shouldn't have shields at all because in EVE they just armor tank. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubadosPronto saberá justiça I am a Defender of the downtroddenSoon you will discover justice
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2321	Posted - 2014.01.26 06:55:00 - [54] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Minmatar are mainly shield tankers. If anything they should have less buffer than the Caldari but faster recovery. I always thought is was a Light Hybrid with emphasis on shields. They do need better regen though. Caldari should be the Huge Shield tank with decent regen. Minmatar should have a smaller shield tank, with a decent amount of armor and better regen. Think of it like this. Cal Assault: 630 shields, 180 armor. Great shield recharge times, decent shield regen times. Min Assault: 420 shields, 250 armor. Decent shield recharge times, Great Shield recharge times. In short, the Min Assault would be less tanky, but have more speed and better recharge. They can run from combat, so they don't need a good recharge time, but they need to get back in the fight, so they have a good regen. Cal assault has a huge tank, is slower, but has great recharge times. This lets them have a better, constant regen over the burst style gameplay that a Minmatar Assault runs. exactly. If the minmatar have the same relationshp to caldari as galente to amarr things would be balanced. Galente have less armor tank than Amarr (in eve) but they repair armor faster and continuously. Minmatar should have less shield than Caldari but recharge their shields faster and continously (or whatever is equivalent). Good to know you agree! Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1135	Posted - 2014.01.26 07:32:00 - [55] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: If the MinAssault is meant to be a hit and run flanker/single-engagement suit its bonuses/inherent abilities should apply to some or all of: Speed, biotics, damping, recharge/repair rate, alpha damage/dps. The suit as it stands is not and will never be a frontline assault suit - if it's not that, what is it? Fix the laser by giving it a lot more range 130 to 160m, better optimal, less dropoff and give the suit some bonus like extra laser damage per level?? There now it has a reason to exist by being a long range laser assasin/scout. Can you hear the screams of Amarr RP folks??: You, you, YOU HERETIC!!!!! A laser, a LASER!! for those minmatar FILTH!!! Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1480	Posted - 2014.01.26 07:36:00 - [56] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: If the MinAssault is meant to be a hit and run flanker/single-engagement suit its bonuses/inherent abilities should apply to some or all of: Speed, biotics, damping, recharge/repair rate, alpha damage/dps. The suit as it stands is not and will never be a frontline assault suit - if it's not that, what is it? Fix the laser by giving it a lot more range 130 to 160m, better optimal, less dropoff and give the suit some bonus like extra laser damage per level?? There now it has a reason to exist by being a long range laser assasin/scout. Can you hear the screams of Amarr RP folks??: You, you, YOU HERETIC!!!!! A laser, a LASER!! for those minmatar FILTH!!! Normally i wouldn't dirty myself with Ammar gear, but when you put it that way..... I support SP rollover.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1360	Posted - 2014.01.26 12:19:00 - [57] - Quote bumpo Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 339	Posted - 2014.01.26 12:49:00 - [58] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1730164#post1730164 The base armor repping for minmatar really added to their play style especially since they have lower ehp than the other races. The fact that they are only marginally faster than galente and caldari doesn't help. So taking this away really just makes them bad tbh. Caldari more shields gallente more armor amar more stamina minmatar less ehp and 1 more meter per second run speed? really? just remember minmatar tech is at its best inside the ranges of amar and caldari, and only slightly outside the ranges gallente weaponry. so basically minmatar aren't worth running unless you get full proto, in wich case you might as well just use gallente or caldari. 3 out of the 5 minmatar weapons are pretty much uncompetetive, so im begining to think CCP has it out for minmatar. EDIT: this is a repost. meant to put this in general discusion I REALLY hope this a DAMN JOKE. You complain about speed while it's the BASE of strafing which is the main factor in duel WHILE Amarr got ***** useless Stamina ? You have the most slots making you impossible to know how to fight you. You can fit everything at everytime. The OP weapons are almost all Minmatarr : Everybody have balaced armor/shield factor and minmatarr have -5% of penality on shield and 10% bonus on armor What da hell ? Your proto takes 8PG at proto level WHAT ????? Our STD takes 6/7/11PG. SMG => Best than 1/2 of primary weapons CR : Instant kill everything at every Range. HMG since hit detection : Instant kill. Mass Driver : Was OP during some months. Locus : ** up the game and end with Spam grenade. Remote : Can OS every suit WHILE invisible. Repair Tool : Got buffed every *** time. Now learn to play. If you stack armor plates on a speed suit you're stupid. Not CCP fault. You lose you're base regen because you had NOTHING to do with it. You're not a *** tank. Play with dampener. Play with hack modules. Play with biotic. And stop complainnig. All of your racial Bonus are twice better than the others races. While Amarr bonus always sucks. The CCP guy who balance this game is TOTALLY for Minmatarr. Open your ***** eyes.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2324	Posted - 2014.01.26 15:55:00 - [59] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: -snip- Wow. I don't think I have ever seen a post so full of inaccuracies. Lets start from the beginning. Base Strafe has been the same on all suits since ~1.4 We have 1 more slot than you, and the ever amazing 5/2 layout (CPU heavy on a suit with less CPU and PG than the Amarr Assault) "You can fit everything at everytime" Once again, the MK.0 Assault has LESS CPU and PG than the Amarr AK.0. Invalid. OP weapons: SMG: Yeah that thing is amazing, but have you ever used the ScP? It's deadly in it's own way. CR: Once again, great gun. But the ScR is JUST as deadly. Charge shot headshots will insta-kill more than half the suits in the game. It also boasts the highest DPS in the game with a fast enough trigger finger and damage mods. HMG: It's a freaking HMG. Get over it. It's SUPPOSED to ruin your day. Mass Driver: Almost useless right now. Almost Locus: You can use that crap too. Remote: You're complaining about remotes? Holy hell you're butthurt. Repair Tool: And now you're complaining about rep tools? DEAR GOD. About learning how to play: Stacking armor plates on a speed suit means you're stupid. Because Speed lets you dodge bullets. AA much? Speed tanking is almost useless right now except for overall mobility. "Play with Dampener, Play with Biotic, Play with Hack modules". WE ONLY HAVE TWO LOW SLOTS. "Stop Complaining" What was this entire post about? Hypocritical no? "Racial Bonus is 2x as great" Debateable. Sidearm bonus is great, and so is hack speed, but you gotta remember, the Amarr Assault bonus turns the ScR into a MONSTER. With a reduction to heat build up on top of quickened heat dissipation, the Amarr Assault can spam shots with it all day. "Amarr Bonus always sucks" See above. "Open your [CENSORED] eyes" Open YOUR EYES. I could eat a bowl of spaghetti O's and defecate a better argument than this. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1361	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:17:00 - [60] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: -snip- Wow. I don't think I have ever seen a post so full of inaccuracies. Lets start from the beginning. Base Strafe has been the same on all suits since ~1.4 We have 1 more slot than you, and the ever amazing 5/2 layout (CPU heavy on a suit with less CPU and PG than the Amarr Assault) "You can fit everything at everytime" Once again, the MK.0 Assault has LESS CPU and PG than the Amarr AK.0. Invalid. OP weapons: SMG: Yeah that thing is amazing, but have you ever used the ScP? It's deadly in it's own way. CR: Once again, great gun. But the ScR is JUST as deadly. Charge shot headshots will insta-kill more than half the suits in the game. It also boasts the highest DPS in the game with a fast enough trigger finger and damage mods. HMG: It's a freaking HMG. Get over it. It's SUPPOSED to ruin your day. Mass Driver: Almost useless right now. Almost Locus: You can use that crap too. Remote: You're complaining about remotes? Holy hell you're butthurt. Repair Tool: And now you're complaining about rep tools? DEAR GOD. About learning how to play: Stacking armor plates on a speed suit means you're stupid. Because Speed lets you dodge bullets. AA much? Speed tanking is almost useless right now except for overall mobility. "Play with Dampener, Play with Biotic, Play with Hack modules". WE ONLY HAVE TWO LOW SLOTS. "Stop Complaining" What was this entire post about? Hypocritical no? "Racial Bonus is 2x as great" Debateable. Sidearm bonus is great, and so is hack speed, but you gotta remember, the Amarr Assault bonus turns the ScR into a MONSTER. With a reduction to heat build up on top of quickened heat dissipation, the Amarr Assault can spam shots with it all day. "Amarr Bonus always sucks" See above. "Open your [CENSORED] eyes" Open YOUR EYES. I could eat a bowl of spaghetti O's and defecate a better argument than this. This such a perfect counter to his argument there is almost nothing left to add. Save that a basical scrambler on an Amar assault can still out DPS a heavy suit with an HMG. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça



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