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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:06:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:I'm use to it. He use to believe that anyone better than him in MAG was clearly cheating despite the proof of cheaters has never existed besides glitching out of the map. He even came to the MAG forums a few months back complaining about randoms on his team. When the community made fun of him, he kept asked "how many hours you have?" and "who are you?" as if he was suppose to be some sort of MAG celebrity. He even acted like it online: http://youtu.be/4_dUpkT4fWY?t=4m3s Nobody, not once, ever, admitted the slightest possibility of lag having anything to do at all with how many kills they would get. I remember one of Dark Flock's snipers literally sprinting around me in a circle, firing his pistol while I could do to keep up was spin in a circle. If that's not evidence of any lag at all, then I don't know what is. Not like KEQ has done much anyway on any game. Neither did you. Vehicles would run me over despite that they appeared 20 feet in front of me on my screen. Happened all the time. Everyone lagged a little. I went from bad to better internet (crappy small bandwidth in S. Florida to a large bandwidth in Jacksonville, [North] Florida) and I actually started doing better. In a more extreme case, MUD had the same experience as me when he upgraded his internet and I don't think he changed his location. And it wasn't just lag, you claimed they used aim-bots too. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/MAG-Discussion/I-just-went-73-7-defending-Raven-acq/m-p/31562165#M82274(Your sentence on the Flock sniper didn't make sense. I think you're missing a few words.) Oh my bad, where's your old clan?
You live a sad life to dig up that stuff. I honestly pity you.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:
exactly, mega op
Um I don't know what you've been smoking lately, but If a vehicle gets hit by 6 Boundless Remote Explosives and 3 PRO AV Grenades, IT SHOULD DIE Those should merely be support weapons for AV, not direct hard counters by themselves. 9 AV weapons all at PRO tier hitting at the exact same time should kill any HAV. 6 and 3 is not by themselves
Like I said, support weapons.
And you call yourself a tanker. LOL! I might as well call myself the second coming of Kurt Cobain because I play guitar left handed.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:You live a sad life to dig up that stuff. I honestly pity you.
I figured you'd say that. All I had to do was search "Spkr4theDead" and "cheat". I only needed to click on one thread. Wasn't hard, especially since you had a reputation of calling so many people cheaters.
The not logic bomb!
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Crash Monster wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:OP wants chromo tanks back. Enough said. Yeah, and I want a unicorn. Get real. GET REAL? Javeline Missiles take down Tanks with a Single Warhead in real life.
Lets get real ; and if we have Javelins in BF3 why not dust?
I mean they ALREADY exist,im sure in a distant future they should ahve even stronger version to deal with those very improved tanks...right?
500mts, autolock 1HKO anti tank missile.
There, thats real. Javelins cost hundred of thousands of dollars, more even. They are heavy and unwieldy under any other circumstances.
I used to split rent with a U.S. Armies reserve instructor for the Javelin. When one of his trainees returned from Iraq he told a story of their APC turning a street corner to encounter a tank. As the squad was jumping out the back this guy hung off the side and disabled the target with his Javelin before its cannon could fire.
Never bothered asked if that meant they officially have a dumb-fire option. I was always under the impression they took more time.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71
310k + SP for +0.05 m/s on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
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Rusty Shallows
520
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:51:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ninjanomyx wrote:98.9% of AVers are trash. 0.1% of Pure AVers are capable. 1% of the most capable AVers are Tankers. Tankers are 0.3% of DUST 514's Community. LOLTruth  Care to share your data samples, gathering methods, and math? I know the Community after 1 & 2/3 Years of playing this, especially as a Tanker, but as everything atone time or. My AV Tactics at STD Level rivals that of the scrubby Proto AVers I've come accross. My Math is infallible 
And to think I let you get me all hot and bothered over the chance at seeing some serious statistical data gathering and analysis... for shame.
MOAR MATH! 
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71
310k + SP for +0.05 m/s on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
112
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:02:00 -
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No offense, but I think many are just thinking about this wrong....
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:08:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:No offense, but I think many are just thinking about this wrong....
Tanks should be both cheaper and easier to kill.
Tankers are happy. AV is happy. Everyone happy.
LOL!
Let's make PRO suits easier to kill. PRO suits and weapons should be more expensive and less effective.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:09:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:You live a sad life to dig up that stuff. I honestly pity you. I figured you'd say that. All I had to do was search "Spkr4theDead" and "cheat". I only needed to click on one thread. Wasn't hard, especially since you had a reputation of calling so many people cheaters.
I think you should get a better hobby. Pick up an instrument. Make a painting. Read a book.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:22:00 -
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I didn't know looking up something for five minutes was a hobby.
The not logic bomb!
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:You live a sad life to dig up that stuff. I honestly pity you. I figured you'd say that. All I had to do was search "Spkr4theDead" and "cheat". I only needed to click on one thread. Wasn't hard, especially since you had a reputation of calling so many people cheaters. I think you should get a better hobby. Pick up an instrument. Make a painting. Read a book.
Sad comebacks, as always.... |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:43:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:I didn't know looking up something for five minutes was a hobby.
Legitimate research is one thing. Looking up something someone you don't know said on an online video game forum to try to prove a nonexistent point is useless.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:I didn't know looking up something for five minutes was a hobby. Legitimate research is one thing. Looking up something someone you don't know said on an online video game forum to try to prove a nonexistent point is useless.
I knew you said it, I just needed proof.
The not logic bomb!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:57:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:I didn't know looking up something for five minutes was a hobby. Legitimate research is one thing. Looking up something someone you don't know said on an online video game forum to try to prove a nonexistent point is useless. I knew you said it, I just needed proof.
What a pathetic existence.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:04:00 -
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I didn't know remembering something was pathetic.
The not logic bomb!
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
161
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:30:00 -
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seriously OP, how many hours do you have?
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.11.21 06:32:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:seriously OP, how many hours do you have?
Hours? What are you talking about? I've been gaming for 20 years.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1233
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
But in Dust infantry don't want to play this game? Why not? Why don't you want to work together to take down a Tank and shift the tide of battle?
A better question is, why should I have to get a whole entire squad to use tactics and teamwork to bring down something that only takes one person to operate and perform well in? Why should I be required to use teamwork against anyone or anything that doesn't require teamwork? And no "because I paid more" is not a valid argument. If this was a legitimate argument then AUR swarms should OHKO everything and AUR HAVs should be invincible. Not that a majority of tankers don't already want HAVs to be invincible. BECAUSE and I don't understand why you don't get this.... INFANTRY IS STRONG BECAUSE OF TEAM WORK. Why should a solo infantry man be able to destroy a vehicle designed to withstand such fire power. You know as well as I do a single player cannot win a match against 5 other players neither should they be able to in a tactical shooter. 1 tank should not be able to deal with 5 infantry working on it at the same time, nor 3, but 1 or 2 yes.
So your saying that I should be able to hop into a tank as 1 person and require 3-6 people to destroy me?
I fail to see the balance in having to use 3-6 people to destroy 1 person.
And before you say, "well that's how it is in real life", think about it. Should everything perform like it would IRL?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1233
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:09:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Atiim wrote:If we want to get real then a shotgun would kill everything from 1-80m with no dispersion whatsoever. Is that your alt? I've seen you miss the meaning in things like this a few times now...
Whose alt?
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:
But in Dust infantry don't want to play this game? Why not? Why don't you want to work together to take down a Tank and shift the tide of battle?
A better question is, why should I have to get a whole entire squad to use tactics and teamwork to bring down something that only takes one person to operate and perform well in? Why should I be required to use teamwork against anyone or anything that doesn't require teamwork? And no "because I paid more" is not a valid argument. If this was a legitimate argument then AUR swarms should OHKO everything and AUR HAVs should be invincible. Not that a majority of tankers don't already want HAVs to be invincible. BECAUSE and I don't understand why you don't get this.... INFANTRY IS STRONG BECAUSE OF TEAM WORK. Why should a solo infantry man be able to destroy a vehicle designed to withstand such fire power. You know as well as I do a single player cannot win a match against 5 other players neither should they be able to in a tactical shooter. 1 tank should not be able to deal with 5 infantry working on it at the same time, nor 3, but 1 or 2 yes. So your saying that I should be able to hop into a tank as 1 person and require 3-6 people to destroy me? I fail to see the balance in having to use 3-6 people to destroy 1 person. And before you say, "well that's how it is in real life", think about it. Should everything perform like it would IRL?
I highly doubt it would take more than one Javelin or RPG to bring down a tank...in real life... |
Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:13:00 -
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fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:14:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:
exactly, mega op
Um I don't know what you've been smoking lately, but If a vehicle gets hit by 6 Boundless Remote Explosives and 3 PRO AV Grenades, IT SHOULD DIE Those should merely be support weapons for AV, not direct hard counters by themselves. 9 AV weapons all at PRO tier hitting at the exact same time should kill any HAV. 6 and 3 is not by themselves not saying your op for using them, im saying your op for being able to fit them on your scrubsuit
Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:15:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet.
What's your point?
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point?
my point being if tanks irl get here and things become like irl, tanks will never die in battle
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
I get out and recall before scrub nades get near me.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:46:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point? my point being if tanks irl get here and things become like irl, tanks will never die in battle
Tell that to the troves of pilots who want HAVs to perform like they do in real life
Oh wait I forgot. Pilots think that HAVs should ony be "surpressed" by AV. So I assume you also want tanks to be like they are in real life?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:47:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:
Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
I get out and recall before scrub nades get near me.
Then why complain?
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:50:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point? my point being if tanks irl get here and things become like irl, tanks will never die in battle
Hmm as far as I know there were several Tanks so badly damaged that they were out of function or needed to be destroyed by own forces.
You also have to consider that mondern tanks rarely face modern AV weapons and normally get heavy air support that destroys any opposing forces.
And according to real Life no battletank can be run solo they usually have a crew of 3 to 4 operators.
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:03:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point? my point being if tanks irl get here and things become like irl, tanks will never die in battle Hmm as far as I know there were several Tanks so badly damaged that they were out of function or needed to be destroyed by own forces. You also have to consider that mondern tanks rarely face modern AV weapons and normally get heavy air support that destroys any opposing forces. And according to real Life no battletank can be run solo they usually have a crew of 3 to 4 operators.
ok il give you that, for once someone here does actual research, unlike 99.9999999% of this playerbase.
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:
Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
I get out and recall before scrub nades get near me. Then why complain?
your the one complaining about needing a few extra helping hands to take down something over 4x bigger than you.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:12:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:I don't understand why so many on here dislike tanks to the point of calling them a cancer on the game, along with doing and saying everything they possibly can to make vehicles near entirely useless, save for a very brave few actually saying they want vehicles removed from the game.
Is it because you don't understand the dynamics?
Is it because it's more difficult than using an AR?
Is it because it requires more SP to make it viable?
Is it because it's so expensive to run a vehicle that can survive?
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When 1.7 drops, we're going to see who has a better mind.
When 1.7 drops, you will have run out of excuses for why tanks are OP, because CCP is rebuilding them from the ground up, the way they want them to be.
When 1.7 drops, you're going to have to consider elements aside from poor rendering; superior positioning, and the use of ambushing.
When 1.7 drops, there are no more excuses. You won't have any more crutches. Swarms won't own an entire map due to a locking range outside of rendering range for tankers.
When 1.7 drops, I declare open season on infantry. I call for another tank truce. If you see someone from here on the other team, and they're in a tank, shield them from your own team's AV so they have a chance to escape and rep their HP. We will show infantry the error of their ways by helping each other even when we're on the other team.
When 1.7 drops, a red tank is not the enemy. Red infantry is my only enemy, and I intend to make him pay for the months of being treated like garbage.
Vehicles as a whole require less situational awereness, this has been the case in any game that has them.
Most of the vehicle Players, gravitate to things with more EHP so they can survive encounters, but there are ofcourse people who just enjoy a vehicle. I am Awesome at racing games or driving a vehicle as a getaway car in APB R.
But ive never been into tanks, i have more in common with Rambo then i do with some tank commander in the background.
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