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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 12:48:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Chromo tanks could get 60-0 pub after pub after pub. Yeah, totally balanced BTW, if it takes more than one person to destroy a tank, what do you think happens when there are 7 tanks on the field? How often does your corp ask for tankers? I don't expect anybody from RND to understand anything about tanking at all. Did you miss the part where I said "any tank could be destroyed in 2-3 railgun shots?" Yeah, you obviously missed that part. Even with moderate SP into tanking, someone could be a major threat to even the best fit Sagaris or Surya. So yet again the almighty Spkr admits that we should have just used tanks to take out tanks.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 12:55:00 -
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Monkey Mac wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: Infantry just cannot accept that the best counter to a tank should be another tank. No, it has to be infantry weapons, that are each all more powerful than a turret. That's like saying a 40mm 203 round is more powerful than the main gun of an Abrams.
You are aware you have just asked for tanks to become the very definition of an OverPowered weapon. An overpowered weapon is where 1 weapon is so much more effective than any other weapon that the only way to combat it in 1v1 fights is to weild it. You have offically damned your case forever, real tankers will suffer because of that statememt, more nerf to tanks will now rest squarely on your shoulders. This is not a game where you Spkr4theDead will never enjoy tanking!! Just thought I'd put this here for everyone that takes the OP seriously.
@OP
You've already stated that you want AV removed from the game and force people to use HAVs to counter HAVs. We all know your "secret" wish is Tank 514. Stop trying
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 13:01:00 -
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Funny how you say AV is easy when HAVs require little to no effort whatsoever.
Drive around, spam infantry with infinite ammo, turn on modules, and drive away when your modules die.
In my 6+ months of tanking I have yet to see any difficulty from operating an HAV.
Heck only 4 weapons in the game actually damage them beyond 1%. And the fourth one requires a pilot dumb enough to drive into crowds of infantry.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 13:47:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Chromo tanks could get 60-0 pub after pub after pub. Yeah, totally balanced BTW, if it takes more than one person to destroy a tank, what do you think happens when there are 7 tanks on the field? better hope you that you have me on the other team uneven tank battles are what im paid the big bucks for if theres 7 tanks you simply kill them one at a time??? how is that even a serious question.... and target saturation IS an actual tactic... a rather GOOD tactic. doesnt change the fact that it doesnt matter how many tanks there are... if you face them one at a time its just like fighting a single tank!!!! You say this as if all seven tanks will be completely spread out.
But what if they are all near each-other? Orbital Strike them?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:57:00 -
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Guys your just a bunch of swarm scrubs. Hop inside a tank and GET GOOD.
I have to drive around, shoot infantry, watch out for AV, and make sure my hardners are running.
My turrets are very difficult to use as well. I only have an infinite supply of ammo and better DPS then a Duvolle.
My HAV takes so much more skill in comparison. Just Get Good AV
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 16:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Chromo tanks could get 60-0 pub after pub after pub. Yeah, totally balanced BTW, if it takes more than one person to destroy a tank, what do you think happens when there are 7 tanks on the field? Only because dumbass infantry refused to step out of tryhard mode and actually skill up any AV and instead stuck to using milita AV Anyone who actually skilled up AV didnt have a problem with the tanks And now we did and every tanker and his grandma is bitching about it
Funny how tankers think sometimes
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:56:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: Not everyone is as maniacally unreasonable as you claim. Does everyone want to be powerful, viable and useful? Of course. Does everyone want to be invincible? No that's no fun for anyone
You must not have been following the HAV vs AV debacle lately. A high majority of the fellow tankers here do want AV to either be non existent, or only able to slightly damage him.
Cat Merc was right when he said that, in fact. I'm going to the store for some tuna.
He deserves it.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:12:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Like anybody respects your opinion on vehicles, being on an anti-tank crusade. Nowhere have I ever said that I want AV removed. Ever.
I have said that it's stupid to balance the game around one team always having 2 tanks, and the other team having nothing at all to counter them.
It's stupid to make vehicles suffer nerfs through consecutive builds, all because infantry wants it easier to destroy them.
You're not a tanker, and nobody respects your opinion on it. As we've said before, merely having access to a hull and some Aurum turrets does not make you a tanker.
I am not on an Anti-Tank crusade
I have access to more than just a basic hull with AUR turrets. Heck I don't even use AUR; and with the removal of BPOs, why would I?
I am a tanker. In a community poll asked questions about what makes somebody part of a role. Based on the criteria that everyone listed, I am a tanker. And even if, I have the necessary skills to be a tanker. It's not hard.
Gee you think? Based on your constant admittance to wanting AV to do nothing but slightly damage you and how Tanks should be the best and only counter to tanks I will call "bull$#!t" on that.
I could honestly care less about wether or not a group of people disagree with me. Why? Because I expect them to disagree with me. That's like Barrack Obama asking himself why Kim-Jong Il doesn't agree with him.
And you say this as if people other than CharCharOdell, GeneralButtNaked, Void Echo, and Godin TheKiller actually respect your opinion on AV. Funny thing about these people is that they all want one thing and would do anything to have it.
I'll give you a hint, it ends in 514.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:13:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote: So yet again the almighty Spkr admits that we should have just used tanks to take out tanks.
Tell me where you see the problem with that. With that logic, we should make it to where tankers have to use AV to take out AV.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Her Nibs wrote:Cat Merc wrote:People want points to bring a tank's health down because you don't want to be destructible. You want to always be able to GTFO out of the battlefield, so AV are a deterant, not a way to destroy you.
So, give points for people being a deterant. Here here.....I am AV...and getting tired of tanks being recalled as an option. Don't ya wish you could recall you're clone just before he dies. The usual reason tankers will say is "HAVS COSTS SOOOO MUCH ISK" Then I say LOWER THE DAMN COST. But here is the thing.. some tankers don't want that. No. They will say "Then It would defeat the purpose of skilling into a tanks. if cost were lesson" And what purpose was that fps noob? Tell me your real intent for going HAV? *eyes narrow* Because lowering the cost doesn't fix the problem of stupidly OP AV grenades able to solo the best of tanks. FAIL.
When I first said I don't use hardners you were the first to say that a vehicle with hardners running can easily survive 3 Lai dais.
At least attempt to not change your word when it becomes convenient
(Also, if a tanker is dumb enough to drive into crowds of infantry or let an LAV park next to him long enough to throw AV nades, they deserved to die.)
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 19:29:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Since this thread turns into a bucket full of **** with every post of Suckr4Life I have only one questions left.
Spkr4theDead, don't you see that every intelligent person on this forum hates you and if you see it, why you come back every time? LOL
Even Void Echo told him to HTFU, and he'll suck the **** of anything that says nerf AV.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:03:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Since this thread turns into a bucket full of **** with every post of Suckr4Life I have only one questions left.
Spkr4theDead, don't you see that every intelligent person on this forum hates you and if you see it, why you come back every time? LOL Even Void Echo told him to HTFU, and he'll suck the **** of anything that says nerf AV. i told him to stfu because hes not portraying the attitudes of most of the tankers in this community.... I also told you to do the same, both of you were cluster ******* that thread. (To be fair, you'd tell me to HTFU in any thread)
And from gauging reactions to my presence in Tanks R Us, I'd like to call BS on that.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Since this thread turns into a bucket full of **** with every post of Suckr4Life I have only one questions left.
Spkr4theDead, don't you see that every intelligent person on this forum hates you and if you see it, why you come back every time? LOL Even Void Echo told him to HTFU, and he'll suck the **** of anything that says nerf AV. Meh Atiim I have all the skills to call myself an AVer yet even I consider it far too easy to run tanks off, destroy them, and generally make a mockery of vehicle gameplay. Take my CZR (ADV swarmer) fit and I am scoring 1-2 Standard Tanks at match, not always killed by me but always assisted, and a couple of miscellaneous vehicles. All I need is a basic dropship and I am unstoppable...except to Thales users... Oh and you say AV is weak to basic infantry....try using your side arms they are godly weapons. Who can fit an Ishukone, Carthum, or Vizam when they have a primary with loldiculous fitting requirements, cardiac regulators, kinats, and Complex damage mods?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:35:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote: Who can fit an Ishukone, Carthum, or Vizam when they have a primary with loldiculous fitting requirements, cardiac regulators, kinats, and Complex damage mods?
who can fit a sidearm with every single type of AV weapon available to them? anyone with a brain. I'm talking about PRO sidearms. You think an MZ505 is enough to withstand a group of people? While they aren't in your optimal?
Please don't say "why not just use STD sidearms?". I'm gonna finally snap if you ask this. I'm going to find a puppy and throw it off the Golden Gate Bridge if you ask this.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:57:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Tanks should be good enough to force people to work together or lose the match. They'll learn, eventually. Why should I be able to hop inside a tank and go 60-0 with little to no effort at all?
And if you say that operating any vehicle that is not a dropship takes skill, you need to get help. You have some honest mental issues.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:59:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Slag Emberforge wrote:OP, your ego is clearly your enemy here not the red berry AVers.
Superior mind my ass. We will put it to the test, I look forward to forging you into the ground.
Lolswarms are for noobs, this is true, but most tankers I encounter are just as bad. If you even remotely considered chromosome balanced in terms of Vehicles vs AV infantry, you clearly are delusional. How many times do I have to say "the best of tanks were destroyed in 2-3 shots," and ask how it's not balanced in infantry's favor. None of you can answer that. You said 2-3 shots with a railgun.
Last time I checked, infantry can't wield railguns, so that is not balanced in infantry's favor.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:11:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Tanks should be good enough to force people to work together or lose the match. They'll learn, eventually. Why should I be able to hop inside a tank and go 60-0 with little to no effort at all? And if you say that operating any vehicle that is not a dropship takes skill, you need to get help. You have some honest mental issues. your completely ass backwards dude.... lol Oh god yes because I have so much skill with operating vehicles.
I turn modules on and off...
I check my hardners...
I fire at infantry and have to watch that ammo supply. Oh wait...
I drive around with the left joystick and change the camera with the right.
I also need to check the ground for proxies. LOL as if proxies could take out a good tank.
See all of that takes skill. You think it's easy driving around pressing L1 and R1 with infinite ammo? You think just anyone can hold down L1 and select a module with the joystick? That's some hardcore $#!t bro....
Until another tank or PRO AV comes on the field, HAV piloting is stupid easy. And I mean stupid easy. And not too many people have PRO AV.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:18:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote: I kill groups of people all the time with my militia smg, if a "tank scrub" like myself can do that with a militia weapons, surely someone who is a god like yourself can do it.
So you think you can survive my 142 shielded and 659 armored logi carrying a duvolle and 3 complex damage mods by using a MLT SMG?
You must have been facing some really awful scrubs that day. Even in 1v1 you wouldn't be able to kill me with a MLT SMG.
To put a more urban twist on things, "Pics or it didn't happen".
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote: Oh god yes because I require so much skill with operating vehicles.
I turn modules on and off...
I check my hardners...
I fire at infantry and have to watch that ammo supply. Oh wait...
I drive around with the left joystick and change the camera with the right.
I also need to check the ground for proxies. LOL as if proxies could take out a good tank.
See all of that takes skill. You think it's easy driving around pressing L1 and R1 with infinite ammo? You think just anyone can hold down L1 and select a module with the joystick? That's some hardcore $#!t bro....
Until another tank or PRO AV comes on the field, HAV piloting is stupid easy. And I mean stupid easy. And not too many people have PRO AV.
Compare that summary to. I see tank I hold L1 for a second AI does the rest. Yeah that is an accurate summary. If you want all 6 swarms to crash into a building or be gunned down by a tank or infantry.
But I digress; one must actually use swarms anywhere other than the redline to know what I'm talking about.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:40:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote: Get off your high horse dipshit.
Any weapon or vehicle can be summarized as simple to use.
All of them have their strengths and weaknesses.
You only said one thing that wasn't stupid. You shouldn't be able to go 60-0 any more than anyone else "should" but it happens.
If everybody is running around with an AR, nobody is willing to bring out AV, and nobody is willing to man the railgun, then tough ****. Stupid is supposed to be terminal.
Edit: I don't expect anything to change very much since this is AR whiny ******* land, but hey, one can wish.
That was the point. Nothing in this game because everything in this game is easy to learn and use.
Why does everyone assume that I want AR 514? I only use the Tac and Burst ARs. Would you consider those OP?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Just saying that's basically what you relegated tanks to in your summary, you are too biased mate.
Well that really doesn't seem logical at all now that you think about it does it?
Would you say that piloting an HAV is a lot more than what I said up there?
Well swarm launchers require more than holding down L1 for a few seconds if you are a good player who refuses to hide in the redline.
Finding it quite funny how quick tankers are to jump up when I use their very same logic against them.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: Just saying that's basically what you relegated tanks to in your summary, you are too biased mate.
Well that really doesn't seem logical at all now that you think about it does it? Would you say that piloting an HAV is a lot more than what I said up there? Well swarm launchers require more than holding down L1 for a few seconds if you are a good player who refuses to hide in the redline. Finding it quite funny how quick tankers are to jump up when I use their very same logic against them. Its your own logic. If it isn't logical the flaw lies with you not me. No I would not. But would you really say using a swarm launcher is more than what I suggested? Both require positioning, both mobility, both protection. Except you don't have to aim. I don't think tanks need to be strong, just AV weaker, or more specialised to various classes of vehicle. It's my logic? Were you here to read some of GeneralButtNaked's comments?
Then give us back dumfire.
I believe AV needs to be super strong and these tanks weak. But introduce ADV and PRO tanks.
And yes, I would say that using swarms requires more than what you suggested.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.20 23:56:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Atiim wrote:That was the point. Nothing in this game because everything in this game is easy to learn and use.
Why does everyone assume that I want AR 514? I only use the Tac and Burst ARs. Would you consider those OP? Oh shush. I'm tired of your bragging and baiting with ridiculous comments. Troll much? Please clarify
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: But in Dust infantry don't want to play this game? Why not? Why don't you want to work together to take down a Tank and shift the tide of battle?
A better question is, why should I have to get a whole entire squad to use tactics and teamwork to bring down something that only takes one person to operate and perform well in?
Why should I be required to use teamwork against anyone or anything that doesn't require teamwork?
And no "because I paid more" is not a valid argument. If this was a legitimate argument then AUR swarms should OHKO everything and AUR HAVs should be invincible.
Not that a majority of tankers don't already want HAVs to be invincible.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:05:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:If you play with teamwork,i could live with invencible tanks, but not invencible SOLO tankers.
For balance sake.... Has anyone really argued for "invincible" tanks? Really? Not complete invincibility, but many have said that HAVs should not be able to be destroyed by AV.
Forcing everyone who doesn't want to get stomped by an HAV to use an HAV.
That's game-breaking and a FoTM creator.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:10:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Crash Monster wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:OP wants chromo tanks back. Enough said. Yeah, and I want a unicorn. Get real. GET REAL? Javeline Missiles take down Tanks with a Single Warhead in real life. Lets get real ; and if we have Javelins in BF3 why not dust? I mean they ALREADY exist,im sure in a distant future they should ahve even stronger version to deal with those very improved tanks...right?
500mts, autolock 1HKO anti tank missile. There, thats real. If we want to get real then a shotgun would kill everything from 1-80m with no dispersion whatsoever.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: So you who have contributed absolutely no useful arguments to this thread have something prospectively more worthless to say. Thanks though atleast this is a reprieve from the argument since you just aren't worth the time.
Is it not reasonable to want a tank that does not explode everytime some jackass who hasn't rendered or hasn't left the redline looks at me?
Yes, it is reasonable.
I see no problem in fixing the rendering glitch.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:19:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Ok. I just need a Javelin. (BTW tanks in this game are insanly fast with afterburners) Or, we could just launch you and Altiim at tanks... you both appear to be anti-tank weapons. It's Atiim. Why do people keep spelling my name wrong like that? It's on the left side of every post I make. Are people really that stupid?
And sure you can throw me at a tank. If I have 6 Boundless REs and 3 Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:57:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Crash Monster wrote:ACE OF JOKERS wrote:Ok. I just need a Javelin. (BTW tanks in this game are insanly fast with afterburners) Or, we could just launch you and Altiim at tanks... you both appear to be anti-tank weapons. It's Atiim. Why do people keep spelling my name wrong like that? It's on the left side of every post I make. Are people really that stupid? And sure you can throw me at a tank. If I have 6 Boundless REs and 3 Lai Dai Packed AV Grenades. exactly, mega op Um I don't know what you've been smoking lately, but If a vehicle gets hit by 6 Boundless Remote Explosives and 3 PRO AV Grenades, IT SHOULD DIE
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote: exactly, mega op
Um I don't know what you've been smoking lately, but If a vehicle gets hit by 6 Boundless Remote Explosives and 3 PRO AV Grenades, IT SHOULD DIE Those should merely be support weapons for AV, not direct hard counters by themselves. 9 AV weapons all at PRO tier hitting at the exact same time should kill any HAV.
6 and 3 is not by themselves
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote: But in Dust infantry don't want to play this game? Why not? Why don't you want to work together to take down a Tank and shift the tide of battle?
A better question is, why should I have to get a whole entire squad to use tactics and teamwork to bring down something that only takes one person to operate and perform well in? Why should I be required to use teamwork against anyone or anything that doesn't require teamwork? And no "because I paid more" is not a valid argument. If this was a legitimate argument then AUR swarms should OHKO everything and AUR HAVs should be invincible. Not that a majority of tankers don't already want HAVs to be invincible. BECAUSE and I don't understand why you don't get this.... INFANTRY IS STRONG BECAUSE OF TEAM WORK. Why should a solo infantry man be able to destroy a vehicle designed to withstand such fire power. You know as well as I do a single player cannot win a match against 5 other players neither should they be able to in a tactical shooter. 1 tank should not be able to deal with 5 infantry working on it at the same time, nor 3, but 1 or 2 yes. So your saying that I should be able to hop into a tank as 1 person and require 3-6 people to destroy me?
I fail to see the balance in having to use 3-6 people to destroy 1 person.
And before you say, "well that's how it is in real life", think about it. Should everything perform like it would IRL?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:09:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Atiim wrote:If we want to get real then a shotgun would kill everything from 1-80m with no dispersion whatsoever. Is that your alt? I've seen you miss the meaning in things like this a few times now... Whose alt?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:14:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote: exactly, mega op
Um I don't know what you've been smoking lately, but If a vehicle gets hit by 6 Boundless Remote Explosives and 3 PRO AV Grenades, IT SHOULD DIE Those should merely be support weapons for AV, not direct hard counters by themselves. 9 AV weapons all at PRO tier hitting at the exact same time should kill any HAV. 6 and 3 is not by themselves not saying your op for using them, im saying your op for being able to fit them on your scrubsuit Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:15:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:46:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:fact irl is that no American modern tank has ever been destroyed by anything yet. What's your point? my point being if tanks irl get here and things become like irl, tanks will never die in battle Tell that to the troves of pilots who want HAVs to perform like they do in real life
Oh wait I forgot. Pilots think that HAVs should ony be "surpressed" by AV. So I assume you also want tanks to be like they are in real life?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.21 14:47:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote: Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
I get out and recall before scrub nades get near me. Then why complain?
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:16:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote: Well maybe you should turn on that active scanner and not let suicide bombing infantry throw themselves at your tank.
I get out and recall before scrub nades get near me. Then why complain? your the one complaining about needing a few extra helping hands to take down something over 4x bigger than you. No, I said you can throw me at an HAV if I can strap 6 Boundless REs and 3 Lai Dai PADs.
Then Spkr said that 9 PRO AV weapons being able to destroy a tank by hitting it at the exact same time is OP. Then you jumped in and complained about me being able to fit that on a suit.
edit: And why should I be able to hop into something and force 3-6 people to take me out as a single person?
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:13:00 -
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Grunt Shade wrote:Unless something has changed we are not loosing our infinite ammo? Seems like people are forgetting the thrill of a good fight. Do av not like chasing a fleeing tank and blowing it up? Numbers are changing but the outcome will remain the same tanks will give your standard infantry hell av will send them running. Tank vs tank will be who has the bigger gun. Everyone wants change but freaks out when its here. Why? You want to one shot one kill everything? If we are to be harder to kill then maybe ccp should give more wp for taking hav down I dunno. I know one thing though this game has a long way to go this is just another build they are trying. To set the record straight, no vehicle that is not MLT or using $#!t fits has ever been OHK'd by AV.
To be quite honest, the "thrill of a good fight" idea will never happen.
How would it when it takes 3-6 people to destroy a tank and we can have 4-7 tanks on the field?
And no "just use the same 3-6 people to destroy them is not a valid idea. This idea assumes that the HAVs are either completly spread out across the map, or the pilots are dumb enough to stand in a line and let AV destroy them.
If it takes more than one person to destroy anything that takes more than one person to pilot, then guess what's gonna happen? Why would I use AV when I could easily use HAVs to get the job done by myself and have the ability to demolish infantry at the same time? I wouldn't. Nobody would.
If you want tanks to be a one man army, only allow 1-2 HAVs on the field.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:02:00 -
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Alright.
Who was the idiot that bumped this thread?
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:15:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:Atiim wrote:Alright.
Who was the idiot that bumped this thread? lol @ idiot you do realise your the "Spkr4theDead" of the av guys right? aka idiot The difference between me and Spkr4TheDead is the fact that my arguments are correct, and can be reproduced at will.
Along with that, my balance ideas don't shift things in favor of AV, nor do I have an un-fathomable hate for vehicles.
So no, I am not the "Spkr4TheDead" of AV.
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:27:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote: Im very sure "Spkr4TheDead" thinks the exact same things in regards to his opinions, your both delusional
Alright, show me one argument that I have ever made in regards to V/AV that is false, or show me one balance idea I've ever had that favors AV.
You couldn't because there are none. Don't compare me to that loon unless you have something to back your claim.
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