DUST Search - Announcement:Statement on BPO Removal

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

If BPOS were more available, the only thing you'd see in the battlefield are BPOs and protos. That's what the devs think. I think they're not wrong. It wasa bad idea to make BPOS in the first place. And now, not letting others getting a hold of some is a bad idea. You've made your mistake, CCP. An irreversible one. Your just making the situation worse by taking the ability to get some from players who don't have them yet.

They are a company with experience in the game development and marketing. They should not have made an 'oops my bad' mistake when it comes to money and then had the consumer pay for it.

Seeing everything they have done so far, I am sure BPOs were not a mistake. They put them in on purpose to milk money, knowing all along that they are covered by EULA, and all along intending to flip the switch when they are done milking that cow. Clear example of underhand practices. It's like insider trading in the degree of immoral behavior. JP Morgan Chase just lost 10 billion in a settled suit because of similarly conducted business practices.

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Lanius Pulvis Bojo's School of the Trades 65	Posted - 2013.11.21 15:40:00 - [271] - Quote low genius wrote: I support bpo removal. bpos are hindering the market consolidation Not necessarily arguing, but how are they hindering consolidation? Not new, just new to you.
Lanius Pulvis Bojo's School of the Trades 65	Posted - 2013.11.21 15:46:00 - [272] - Quote I think CCP will see a major drop-off in PSN pack sales. This also likely means Sony will have to reconsider the marketing model of this game. Thus far F2P has not meant a lack of generated revenue, but I wouldn't be surprised if this brings them down to micro-transactions for Auram only. I hope that's enough to keep this game alive... Not new, just new to you.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 654	Posted - 2013.11.21 15:50:00 - [273] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: Lying, double-crossing scum. It is probably more reasonable to assume that he was looking at one issue (BPOs in general not working as intended) and was unaware of what was being discussed about vehicle module changes, and the impact on BPOs. Miscommunication rather than malice. Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: I'd rather take cyanide than your word on anything ever again. Should we take this literally? Is this the position you take with everybody, or is it particular to this specific CCP employee? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 136	Posted - 2013.11.21 15:53:00 - [274] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: Said before say it again, BPOs help new players the most, unless something changes I am done paying into CCP, I'd pay good money for new bpos or permanent color augmentations, but for pay2win gear? I think not. And that's exactly what the AUR prototype gear is, pay2win, expendable, nonsense. AUR expendables are what will ensure this game keeps getting developed. Unless CCP's HQ is surrounded by magic money trees. Because consumable equipment is the only feasible way CCP could generate revenue? That's malarkey and we both know it, if you even look at player suggestions there are so many asking for customization and bpos, I don't see anyone saying gee I wish they made more AUR/ISK equivalent items. I am not alone in wanting to make purchases that have permanency, even though boosters are temporary the skills gained by them are permanent, unlike that "Construct" Duvolle
Joel II X AHPA 194	Posted - 2013.11.21 15:59:00 - [275] - Quote If BPOS were more available, the only thing you'd see in the battlefield are BPOs and protos. That's what the devs think. I think they're not wrong. It wasa bad idea to make BPOS in the first place. And now, not letting others getting a hold of some is a bad idea. You've made your mistake, CCP. An irreversible one. Your just making the situation worse by taking the ability to get some from players who don't have them yet.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1227	Posted - 2013.11.21 16:07:00 - [276] - Quote hmmm.... as long as I keep my bpo lav i'm happy, I'd honestly prefer to trade my bpo's in for the aurum so I can get more boosters, I have no intention to spend anymore real money on the game since they removed the merc packs, but if I can get boosters in other ways I really won't complain of course I still haven't seen the source of these complaints. would be nice to see evidence of all these complaints.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 427	Posted - 2013.11.21 16:10:00 - [277] - Quote To be fair plans have to be made BEFORE they can exist. He was more than likely telling the truth back when this was posted. GûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûä - Just a bit further... IlGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê] ..GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ......GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ xxx xxx xxx
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1975	Posted - 2013.11.21 16:12:00 - [278] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: I think CCP will see a major drop-off in PSN pack sales. This also likely means Sony will have to reconsider the marketing model of this game. Thus far F2P has not meant a lack of generated revenue, but I wouldn't be surprised if this brings them down to micro-transactions for Auram only. I hope that's enough to keep this game alive... They could have a thriving AUR market, but their prices are extremely high for expendables. A 2.0 KDR person could spend $50-100 a month on AUR expendables if they used AUR only gear. That seems to high in my opinion Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 369	Posted - 2013.11.21 16:59:00 - [279] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Lanius Pulvis wrote: I think CCP will see a major drop-off in PSN pack sales. This also likely means Sony will have to reconsider the marketing model of this game. Thus far F2P has not meant a lack of generated revenue, but I wouldn't be surprised if this brings them down to micro-transactions for Auram only. I hope that's enough to keep this game alive... They could have a thriving AUR market, but their prices are extremely high for expendables. A 2.0 KDR person could spend $50-100 a month on AUR expendables if they used AUR only gear. That seems to high in my opinion Many share your opinion mate. I think they really need to re-evaluate. But maybe I'm wrong, maybe there are hundreds of rich geeks with nothing better to do with their money and they are still generating enough sales to warrant making these ridiculous packs... anyone from sales care to enlighten us? Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5211	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:08:00 - [280] - Quote In all fairness, it is possible that the OP didn't know about the coming changes. And please spare me the whole "that means incompetence" crap. This is not the first time CCP had a major miscommunication within their office. And neither will it be the last. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1889	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:17:00 - [281] - Quote Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. Lying, double-crossing scum. I'd rather take cyanide than your word on anything ever again. Game company restructures vehicles because they are not working well for the health of the game. Certain items are removed from the game to improve the game. Player goes ballistic over removal and reimbursement of blueprints for low-end items that are no longer in the game. Another player on the block list because you can't argue with crazy. // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2931	Posted - 2013.11.21 17:21:00 - [282] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Player goes ballistic over removal and reimbursement of blueprints for low-end items that are no longer in the game. Another player on the block list because you can't argue with crazy. You most certainly cannot argue with crazy.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 91	Posted - 2013.11.21 19:54:00 - [283] - Quote I'll just be patiently waiting for the moment this gets locked.... lol
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5224	Posted - 2013.11.21 19:56:00 - [284] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122605&find=unread Something related to this thread. For those of you reading this, please answer the question when you're finished. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
xLuca Brasi DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:41:00 - [285] - Quote hmmmm... how quick things change.....
xLuca Brasi DUST University Ivy League 65	Posted - 2013.11.23 23:43:00 - [286] - Quote NEVER FORGET! SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
xLuca Brasi DUST University Ivy League 86	Posted - 2013.11.24 01:58:00 - [287] - Quote someone said this was removed ... its right here. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 663	Posted - 2013.11.24 18:21:00 - [288] - Quote Joel II X wrote: If BPOS were more available, the only thing you'd see in the battlefield are BPOs and protos. That's what the devs think. I think they're not wrong. It wasa bad idea to make BPOS in the first place. And now, not letting others getting a hold of some is a bad idea. You've made your mistake, CCP. An irreversible one. Your just making the situation worse by taking the ability to get some from players who don't have them yet. They are a company with experience in the game development and marketing. They should not have made an 'oops my bad' mistake when it comes to money and then had the consumer pay for it. Seeing everything they have done so far, I am sure BPOs were not a mistake. They put them in on purpose to milk money, knowing all along that they are covered by EULA, and all along intending to flip the switch when they are done milking that cow. Clear example of underhand practices. It's like insider trading in the degree of immoral behavior. JP Morgan Chase just lost 10 billion in a settled suit because of similarly conducted business practices. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 116	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:18:00 - [289] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Joel II X wrote: If BPOS were more available, the only thing you'd see in the battlefield are BPOs and protos. That's what the devs think. I think they're not wrong. It wasa bad idea to make BPOS in the first place. And now, not letting others getting a hold of some is a bad idea. You've made your mistake, CCP. An irreversible one. Your just making the situation worse by taking the ability to get some from players who don't have them yet. They are a company with experience in the game development and marketing. They should not have made an 'oops my bad' mistake when it comes to money and then had the consumer pay for it. Seeing everything they have done so far, I am sure BPOs were not a mistake. They put them in on purpose to milk money, knowing all along that they are covered by EULA, and all along intending to flip the switch when they are done milking that cow. Clear example of underhand practices. It's like insider trading in the degree of immoral behavior. JP Morgan Chase just lost 10 billion in a settled suit because of similarly conducted business practices. totally agree here. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 121	Posted - 2013.11.24 23:08:00 - [290] - Quote this post belongs on the front page. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!

NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 80	Posted - 2013.11.25 17:36:00 - [291] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. A New Week of BPO Bumps due to the lack of responce from CCP - Tnx CCP for shoving it back into your faces
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 139	Posted - 2013.11.25 17:54:00 - [292] - Quote Lol I'm not complaining about the upcoming BPO removal since I don't care about vehicles, but it is a comical thread to have hovering in the forum page one, considering they are now removing BPOs... And to think it was only a month ago that this post was made. lol Wait... why isn't this stickied anymore? Should have just deleted it CCP. Fail.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 139	Posted - 2013.11.25 18:23:00 - [293] - Quote Let's keep this one a live one more cycle.
Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.11.25 23:42:00 - [294] - Quote what changed ccp? why won't you talk with us about this? SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
BMSTUBBY 341	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:30:00 - [295] - Quote Audrey2 wrote: what changed ccp? why won't you talk with us about this? CCP working as intended. I used to play DUST514 but then CCP took a COD arrow to their knee. MMO Someday SoonGäó
Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.11.26 03:15:00 - [296] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Audrey2 wrote: what changed ccp? why won't you talk with us about this? CCP working as intended. very sad if true... SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
billy bloodbath2 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.11.26 22:51:00 - [297] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. logibro, did you know they were gonna remove our bpo's? if not I'm sorry they put you in the position of looking like a liar. It's not like ccp isn't having enough of a PR nitemare without putting one of their more popular reps in this position. logibro is best bro <3
Upper Deckin Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:51:00 - [298] - Quote I find it strange you wouldn't just offer the MLT BPO equivalent of the new items you're releasing when they are done. Its not like there's a economy to effect , there is no player trading , no selling items . That's not a economy. Which make me think over time you will removal all BPO's through more "improvements" . If I buy a item I want THAT ITEM , Not to have that item taken and given some "In store credit , Canadian Tire money or fluckin ESSO bucks". Give me my ******* money back simple. As your game dies more every month you g and pull this bullshit bait and switch. Honestly Smfh . You guys are out of touch , you have a hardcore following which is not ( as you can see ) a good indicator of anything . They have hitched their anchor to the sinking ship so they'll happily sit here and defend your horrible decisions and blow sunshine up your a$$ no matter what . You guys are such good paying beta testers . Complaining on here wont make a difference , you want to make a statement ? Honestly take their TOS contract stance to heart and stop playing . YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CCP IS TO STOP USING THE SITE AND ANY RELATED SERVICES, AND TO CANCEL AND TERMINATE ALL ACCOUNTS REGISTERED TO YOU. Simple.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 931	Posted - 2013.11.26 23:53:00 - [299] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. what am I supposed to make qq threads about now, bro?
billy bloodbath2 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.11.27 00:34:00 - [300] - Quote low genius wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. what am I supposed to make qq threads about now, bro? logi light weapon removal...that will devalue aur even more for those who bought aur logi suits... or aur light weapons for those who use logi suits.... lol ccp is so dumb....



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