@Borne

Dude, seriously just let it go already. As other people said, this thread has side tracked enough. Back to the topic at hand. A lot of us here, especially after the recent public vote, seem to want the ability to freely trade the BPOs without restrictions.

If we're able to sell look me up, I have 8 scouts, 8 toxins, 3 cars, 2 assault suits an rifles

Im thinking its a good thing right now that SCEA sends me an email when I add money to my PSN wallet then lets me know the content I bought.....

I got this other one from CCP that tells me about there Merc pack with a Permanent Dropsuit and Weapon.

In CCP's defense is doesn't say anything about gifting/selling there digital content in the future to third parties though.

The Argument about opening the player market and that BPO"S affect this is ridiculous .I know there are plenty of you that have Officer weps that you dont intend to use.Those are the items which youll be able to sell.As A person that bought Many merc packs I understood that I was buying duplicates but they gave us boosters and AUR and consumables. Which I have plenty of those left as well .This stupid crap Im reading about how many matches It akes to earn this much ISK is for lack of a better phrase absolute Fk8ing stupidity.Bpo's and the ISk they could potentially generate is pennies to what EVE players can make.SO this whole unbalancing the market argument is absolutely assuniying when a EVE player makes WAY more money than your Dust character.

If we are talking about Full integration of the market than we are also talking about Transfering funds.289 matches? How long is that in game time?How much money could an EVE player generate in that same amount of time?You think there is too much money in DUST? That a Dust merc having a hundred million ISk In a pvp setting is a game/market breaker? LOL thats funny,thats absolutely hilarious that really is....

I can buy a PLEX in EVE and get 580 million in a couple clicks......that cost me 20 USD

I have yet to make a character with one Dragonfly merc pack that has a massed that amount of ISK, and my bet is that no one has and it has never happened.

Just because you can use a calculator, doesn't mean you're smart.

If BPOs are so bad and game breaking, why are they still being sold in the Veteran and Elite packs?

If not they still need to be given Aur or Isk amount for Value so we can sell them back to the market for Aur or Isk. (We bought these items with real money we need to be reimbursed some how.)

I did a lot of math, but my point was that BPOs aren't such enormous ISK farms like people say, especially when you start paying ISK for them, since that cuts into your savings. Exactly what your last few lines say; you haven't amassed some huge fortune from using BPOs. Even if you buy BPOs currently with real money, you might be making 25-30% more ISK per match than other players. This is, apparently, game breaking, when it's fine to have people walking around that payed for 100% more SP. It's a non-issue, even if players transfer BPOs around without losses due to resale. STD gear is already pretty cheap.

Anyone that wants to make real ISK will want to play PC, at which point BPOs aren't going to cut it. I honestly couldn't care less if someone kills me with BPOs and used that to fund a couple extra Proto suits a dozen matches later. There are way bigger problems.

If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.

I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.

Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.

There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.

Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.

The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.

In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy.

If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.

I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.

Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.

There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.

Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.

The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.

In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy.

A very strong and valid argument.

On the one hand, I don't mind seeing my BPOs locked to my account as I don't have dozens of copies of each BPO as some of people do and I don't intend to sell them anyways. But on the other hand, there are many players that did stockpile them and do intend to sell them to other players for massive profit. Therefore who am I to restrict what others can do with their assets? On top of that, you make a very good point in regards to how it's a bad idea to make something purchasable by some but not available to all.

I know you guys say we are keeping BPOs we have purchased, but I feel I must convey how important this is for me to keep them anyway, in case you change your minds.

I spent my hard earned money on these things, for my own gameplay enjoyment and to support ccp.

if the ones I own are ever taken from me then that will be the end of my dust, eve and any other game you ever make experience.

plus I will attempt to sue you... probably not successfully but I will try anyway.

any compensation you may offer like aurum would be worthless to me, that's not to say all kinds of compensation would be, like a full cash refund...

so, anyway, I know this isn't an issue right now but I wanted you guys to know how strongly I feel about this.

thanks.

p.s. I love the improvements to the game and I am still a loyal fan.

please continue your endeavor to make this game amazing!

no Im afraid its not I have yet to see a PC team running around in BPO suits.Nonsense.

Given his hypothesis as flawed as it is then praytell how are you supposed to compete against players with Millions of Isk?

By using BPO's......

Just want some clarification to make sure I'm understanding this right.

I pre-ordered the collector's edition. I'll still be getting (and keeping) the following BPOs;

Amarr "Templar" Assault Dropsuit
Amarr "Templar" Logistics Dropsuit
Amarr "Templar" Heavy Dropsuit
Amarr "Templar" Scrambler Rifle
Amarr Scrambler Pistol
Amarr Laser Rifle
Amarr Drop Uplink

Is that right?

Lot's of PC players use their BPOs in Pubs and FW. How many times have you been killed by an "Exile" or "Toxin" AR? I see those more than Duvolles! Not to mention the BPO suits!

These EVE: The Second Decade Collector's Edition Items are permanent gear, requiring no restocking or replacement.

Blueprints are inexhaustible. They will never deplete.

Blue highlighted slots indicate blueprint items, which have unlimited uses and will never need to be restocked.

Those same Pc corp players with millions of Isk could use militia/standard weapons.What is your point? We'll say for example player A in a pc corp has a 8.0 kdr and he uses militia in a bub match and goes 16-2..... hes still making Isk.....again what is your point?