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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:22:00 -
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Hey all,
We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.
We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories.
CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro |
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Bleeding Knight
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
46
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:27:00 -
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Maybe introduce more boosters in the veteran and elite pack instead of those BPO |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
425
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:39:00 -
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Tell ur team that the vast majority of us DO want BPOs to be sellable once the p2p market is implemented, because we bought multiple merc packs & wanted to sell our extras eventually.
& thx for Dev clarification speedily. |
Spectre-M
The Generals
EoN.
77
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:39:00 -
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I'm not buying a $100 pack. Good luck with that. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
410
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:43:00 -
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OK. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1123
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:48:00 -
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If BPOs are currently not functioning as intended, what is the intended function of BPOs.
I also saw a post in which a CCP representative stated they were considering not allowing the trade/sale of BPOs on the player controlled market.
Not allowing the trade of BPOs is a very bad Idea.
There should never be Items purchased by some, but not available to all. This rallies against the Free to Play model. It sends a very bad message to new players, and disproportionately rewards veteran players with the unrestricted ability to earn ISK which they mostly do not need anyway.
Most veteran players are in PC, where they make millions of ISK per match. Those corporations which own districts also make millions perhaps billions of ISK by the sale of clones. Then they are able to turn around and play Pub matches using full BPO fittings and risk absolutely no loss.
The players that could benefit the most from BPOs - the new players - will then only further fatten the wallets of the veteran players, while at the same time depleting their own because they would always be forced to risk something to play.
In a game where risk vs reward is supposed to be the driving factor, not allowing the trade of BPOs after removing the ability to otherwise obtain them completely destroys this philosophy. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4509
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:49:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Tell ur team that the vast majority of us DO want BPOs to be sellable once the p2p market is implemented, because we bought multiple merc packs & wanted to sell our extras eventually.
& thx for Dev clarification speedily.
I agree.
Many players who purchased vast quantities of these BPOs back during the final moments of closed beta (at cheap AUR prices) bought them under the assumption that they will later be able to sell them again to other players for ISK in the secondary market. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
667
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:51:00 -
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BPOs is the only thing I've considering buying off the market, if you're gonna remove them you better have a seriously good alternative. The new merc pack replacement is just horrible. |
fawkuima juggalo
Hollowed Kings
81
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Posted - 2013.10.20 01:34:00 -
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wait what!!! they ever coming back..... wtf did i buy 100,000 aurum then.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2016
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Posted - 2013.10.20 01:35:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote: BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Care to elaborate on this? As I understand it BPOs in EVE require materials or isk to generate things.
Does this mean industry for Dust? |
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Argent Mordred
DUST University
Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.10.20 01:55:00 -
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I created an account through a recruitment link. I don't think I ever got the recruit dropsuit beside having enough warpoints. Are those bpo's disapearing or just the ones in the packs and stores. It's not a big deal, but I am curious. |
Beforcial
REAPERS REPUBLIC
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:21:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories.
Then i can't wait for the EVE/Dust514 market merge and to see how much those BPO's will go for or if we as duster can actually sell BPC's to EVE players.
Either way, excited! |
Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command
The Ditanian Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:39:00 -
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Beforcial wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. Then i can't wait for the EVE/Dust514 market merge and to see how much those BPO's will go for or if we as duster can actually sell BPC's to EVE players. Either way, excited!
We should make them give us a free BPO of our choosing if we give enough negative feedback
Oh im sorry. I thought Dusties were greedy.
Im one of them |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
727
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:44:00 -
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I support bpo removal.
bpos are hindering the market consolidation |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1084
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:03:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey all,
We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.
We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories.
Could you explain how they aren't working as intended? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1868
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:35:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey all,
We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.
We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories.
love it
Please consider making those packs better since they have no BPOs... Also it would be awesome if those paint buckets are still on the way... those can be BPOs right? Anything cosmetic should be a BPO it just makes sense. But you use it on the suit it's not a dropsuit. Maybe even let a single paint bucket work on any suit size. Make them works on tanks too, so can slowly buy and unlock new colors. You'll make tons of money! |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
111
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:49:00 -
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I'd just liek to post a quick sum up of this whole BPO issue.
Someone really f***ed up didn't they? 
now personally several of us in my corp have been discussing this during the evening and i always said that we should be able to use the bpos to build our suits like in EVE. i can understand that BPOs in dust work different to eve. i guess what needs to happen is some way for us mercs to be able to start manufacturing items with BPOs.
One idea is that items to build merc equipment, weapons, suits, modules ect are salvaged from the Infestation mode that has been mentioned. that way those who have BPOs can go into PvE and get materials by completing missions with friends, receiving isk/sp/lp/salvage in order to use them and create individual suits of the BPO types which can then be used or sold on the player market to others who don't have the bpos. it'd be how you can buy a navy raven bpc from an agent and build it and sell it to someone. it'll just be a way of bringng disposable sever/valor/raven/covenant/dren/templar ect into the game and creating an economy.
Us mercs live in stations afterall. these stations have factories and refineries ect as well as research labs we could improve ME/PE of our suits but one thing is i think we should be able to sell them for isk. CCP did state that ALL aur items will be available on the player market for isk and i think this would be best solution to the issue
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
116
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Posted - 2013.10.20 03:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Tell ur team that the vast majority of us DO want BPOs to be sellable once the p2p market is implemented, because we bought multiple merc packs & wanted to sell our extras eventually.
& thx for Dev clarification speedily. I agree. Many players who purchased vast quantities of these BPOs back during the final moments of closed beta (at cheap AUR prices) bought them under the assumption that they will later be able to sell them again to other players for ISK in the secondary market.
harsh reality, dont assume things |
Ribbons Allmark
CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
27
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Posted - 2013.10.20 04:01:00 -
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Glad I stocked up on bpos just wish there was a bpi for the scr the hmg and the md |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
111
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Posted - 2013.10.20 04:15:00 -
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Ribbons Allmark wrote:Glad I stocked up on bpos just wish there was a bpi for the scr the hmg and the md
you get laser rifle, scram rifle and scram pistol in the eve collectors edition as well as the templar assault, logi and sentinal suits. |
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
19
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Posted - 2013.10.20 04:30:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Hey all,
We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.
We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. Could you explain how they aren't working as intended?
This...I have the same question and would like to know how it is that you are going to make them worthless considering I bought them on there value and function.
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lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion
111
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Posted - 2013.10.20 05:06:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Hey all,
We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.
We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.
Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories. Could you explain how they aren't working as intended? This...I have the same question and would like to know how it is that you are going to make them worthless considering I bought them on there value and function.
I want details, a full list of imposed changes and such, cause to me the only thing worth buying on the game is the vetern and elite merc packs now, if you just fill them up with the bs equipment that you did with the tactical pack, the thought of buying those packs and spending 50-100 dollars more on the game will be gone. The simple fact is, CCP does absolutely horrible on micro transactions, also, why is CCP sticking its nose up the packages when it still has gameplay issues to fix? Does CCP even have a plan for the holiday season coming up, or are they so lacking in thought about how to make sales that...alright, going to chill out....calm...peace, serenity....alright, CCP needs to be focusing on how to make better buying options available, it has currently made most new products unappealing to the general audience and crowds of DUST, by charging nearly 1.5x to 2x the reasonable price for most of the packages being offered. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2180
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:28:00 -
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Not function as intended?
So cutting down on potential AUR purchases you mean |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:48:00 -
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I'm curious as to what their intended function was supposed to be. They save me isk while allowing for a bit of variety in my fittings so I can blow isk on proto fits. Otherwise, i'd just be using the starter fits to do the same exact thing. And yes it works very well. 2600 proto av fit and growing. Is that the part they don't like? Our huge stockpiles, which makes death not hurt at all. |
Asianboyeneoh
O.F.W.G.K.T.A.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:31:00 -
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So... basically CCP is tearing this game down. They are taking out BPOs, Merc pack, and soon maybe something that is big. CCP, please let the community choose how this game goes. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
589
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:02:00 -
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Only way I can now see BPO's working is tie them with industry and use the resources from the eventual PvE to construct units from them and not be modules in themselves.
Make them like that and allow them to be sold as such on the market and we have a growing dust economy based on harvesting, construction and destruction just like Eve. Makes it easier to link two economy's as well in the future. |
Bad Heal
PwNdCaKeSnRapLeSyrup
78
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:12:00 -
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I foresee a day when BPO's will be removed completely  |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
96
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Many players who purchased vast quantities of these BPOs back during the final moments of closed beta (at cheap AUR prices) bought them under the assumption that they will later be able to sell them again to other players for ISK in the secondary market.
Well, even at that time this was called speculation and as every speculation it can go sideways sometimes ;) (IMNSHO the whole BPO price change was a disaster and shouldn't have happened in the first place) |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
367
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:03:00 -
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So he pretty much said this exact thing https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
1112
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:23:00 -
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BPOs? meh.
I'd rather spend my aurum on featured fits to test out new things before I startmputting skill points into them. Oh wait, you only have 5 of them, and they're all standard suits that I could be making with isk...
You know what I want to spend my aurum on? Omega boosters for 36k each.
Or something that lets me try before I buy...for instance something that gives me skill points for a limited amount of time, or something that lets me try out vehicles/suits/modules at the proto level without having to put a single skill point into that area.
But no. |
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