General Overview
So now that you know why we are looking at factional contracts and our general goals, you next question would likely be "What are we looking to change?"

Well, if this is implemented in the way outlined here, it'll be one step forward and about ten steps back.

I'm so tired of seeing so many blatant issues with every single new feature added that I don't even feel like it's worth my time explaining why this stuff is so bad anymore. This might just be the last straw for me. I can only watch this dev team blunder and stumble for so long, it's just painful to watch... almost as painful as actually playing Dust 514 is at this point.

DUST players targeting specific systems is something we are looking into, but will not make it for this iteration.

You can win me over, but its tough as nails. I've heard them all, and 95% of the "serious issues" I was warned about last year never materialized when people actually got out and used the system. I'm notorious for disappointing FW people because of this, and not taking your pet issue seriously enough for you to be satisfied.....but I look at the big picture, and the long haul. Data comes in over MONTHS that determines whether these systems are elastic enough or not, if you've decided in the first 2 weeks that the system is broken cause your faction isn't coming back I'm prolly going to just tell you to fight harder. I've literally seen it all and heard it all in the last few years and I am extremely resistant to hyperbole. I can be swayed.....but it takes a lot of hard evidence, and a fair amount of time.

They've arrived! Needless to say I'll have a lot to say about these changes, I'm going to likely throw them up on my blog. We saw them posted internally only briefly before they went public, and I've been so busy putting out various fires the last couple days I haven't sat down and processed it all yet, but I'm quickly catching up! FoxFour and I have talked about this stuff for a while now though, so the general idea here is no surprise.

FW peeps - I'll give the disclaimer now. Yes, I'm the FW expert and worked heavily on the EVE-side FW changes last year as part of the CSM. I fight for Minmatar almost exclusively, and will be doing so in the days ahead. No, I don't care about the fact that you feel feature _________ favors the _________ militia, I've had my fill of those ******** arguments and I wont waste my time with them this time around. If you want to obnoxiously badger me because you think I'm trying to game the system for Minmatar or whatever I'm prolly just going to ignore you. The rules affect all miltiias, if they hurt one day they'll be hurting your enemy the next.

Likewise, because I have such a long history with FW - I'm usually the last person to buy in to the "BUT ___________ IS GOING TO DESTROY FW AND END THE FIGHTING!!" arguments. You can win me over, but its tough as nails. I've heard them all, and 95% of the "serious issues" I was warned about last year never materialized when people actually got out and used the system. I'm notorious for disappointing FW people because of this, and not taking your pet issue seriously enough for you to be satisfied.....but I look at the big picture, and the long haul. Data comes in over MONTHS that determines whether these systems are elastic enough or not, if you've decided in the first 2 weeks that the system is broken cause your faction isn't coming back I'm prolly going to just tell you to fight harder. I've literally seen it all and heard it all in the last few years and I am extremely resistant to hyperbole. I can be swayed.....but it takes a lot of hard evidence, and a fair amount of time.

My feedback for CCP will be informed by this experience, of course. I'm much less likely to be alarmed about some features because I understand that they are unpredictable and need to be released into the wild to see what players do with them before coming to conclusions, and FW is nothing that any designer can simulate or test in-house the way they can a rifle. Don't be shocked if you hear me say "we'll see" a whole helluvalot.

I also want to bump my newly created Dust Scussion channels. I'll be moderating a Skype chat on Faction Warfare, anyone is welcome to join, but I will ruthlessly boot people who are being disruptive. I look forward to getting to know more of you that are excited for and/or actively fighting for the militias regularly!

o7o7

how so! listen you didn't even point out a single thing you think they do better!

Ok, let me sway you. I've took data from nearly 2 months now, one month where Gallente and Minmatar FW were winning 99% to 1% and another where Amarr and Caldari FW were winning 99% to 1%. I think there is something up with this, and this is me saying the faction warfare system is broken even though my team came back and is winning now, so yeah. I've posted exactly what I think is up and why the FW system in broken in numerous threads and a few of my own threads as well, if you didn't see them then I question how well the CPM really listens. Yeah I know you can't see everything that goes on in the forums, but I and some others have literally been spamming this for a couple months now.

Hey now lets get to know each other a bit before we rush to conclusions alright?? FW has changed in a couple of significant ways over the last two months that have created atypical scenarios. And they will change again immediately once these are implemented. I'm not saying there aren't phenomena that need to be studied closely looking at the last couple of months, only that once FoxFour actually delivers these on the server the clock resets and we get to observe a brand new set of data.

No need to assume I'm marginalizing your current research, I'd love to chat soon and discuss your findings and the lessons we can learn from them before FoxFour finalizes this latest iteration.

Not rewarding players with ISK for participating in faction warfare means that it will be impossible to have a faction warfare only corp. Unless they buy Aurum Gear only of course.

Pay to play now

Well yeah, that's why I said:

"I'm so tired of seeing so many blatant issues with every single new feature added that I don't even feel like it's worth my time explaining why this stuff is so bad anymore."

I'm done wasting my time trying to explain why the dev team is terrible, I will now commence with simply stating that they are in fact terrible.

For now it's a timer, probably around the 24 hour mark. So once kicked from FW they will have to wait 24 hours before being able to get back in.

as a tanker i can tell u we blow up supply depots because our infantry is incapable of securing it and instead the enemy sits there farming ammo to launch swarms and fg shots at us, sorry but u cannot be mad at tankers for blowing up depots if the infantry on his team dont go to secure it

Tanks cost alot more than your suit so to stay alive if it means destorying it then i agree tankers should get rid of it same as CRUs
again if infantry cant secure the CRUs then blow it up. Infantry can get ammo via a nanohive anyway

They've arrived! Needless to say I'll have a lot to say about these changes, I'm going to likely throw them up on my blog. We saw them posted internally only briefly before they went public, and I've been so busy putting out various fires the last couple days I haven't sat down and processed it all yet, but I'm quickly catching up! FoxFour and I have talked about this stuff for a while now though, so the general idea here is no surprise.

FW peeps - I'll give the disclaimer now. Yes, I'm the FW expert and worked heavily on the EVE-side FW changes last year as part of the CSM. I fight for Minmatar almost exclusively, and will be doing so in the days ahead. No, I don't care about the fact that you feel feature _________ favors the _________ militia, I've had my fill of those ******** arguments and I wont waste my time with them this time around. If you want to obnoxiously badger me because you think I'm trying to game the system for Minmatar or whatever I'm prolly just going to ignore you. The rules affect all miltiias, if they hurt one day they'll be hurting your enemy the next.

Likewise, because I have such a long history with FW - I'm usually the last person to buy in to the "BUT ___________ IS GOING TO DESTROY FW AND END THE FIGHTING!!" arguments. You can win me over, but its tough as nails. I've heard them all, and 95% of the "serious issues" I was warned about last year never materialized when people actually got out and used the system. I'm notorious for disappointing FW people because of this, and not taking your pet issue seriously enough for you to be satisfied.....but I look at the big picture, and the long haul. Data comes in over MONTHS that determines whether these systems are elastic enough or not, if you've decided in the first 2 weeks that the system is broken cause your faction isn't coming back I'm prolly going to just tell you to fight harder. I've literally seen it all and heard it all in the last few years and I am extremely resistant to hyperbole. I can be swayed.....but it takes a lot of hard evidence, and a fair amount of time.

My feedback for CCP will be informed by this experience, of course. I'm much less likely to be alarmed about some features because I understand that they are unpredictable and need to be released into the wild to see what players do with them before coming to conclusions, and FW is nothing that any designer can simulate or test in-house the way they can a rifle. Don't be shocked if you hear me say "we'll see" a whole helluvalot.

I also want to bump my newly created Dust Scussion channels. I'll be moderating a Skype chat on Faction Warfare, anyone is welcome to join, but I will ruthlessly boot people who are being disruptive. I look forward to getting to know more of you that are excited for and/or actively fighting for the militias regularly!

o7o7