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Anarchide Greedy Bastards 621	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:43:00 - [61] - Quote No skills?! Try to top the chart getting those scores the logi way then (pics of it, please). Getting those scores takes a lot of work actually. You have to constantly evaluate the battlefield, adjusting strategies and make the best use of your gear. You get WP because people use your stuff, you know? So, you must be making some good use of it, no?! I get high WP because I'm bringing up non-stop support in the entire game length. One does not simply get high SP while sitting on his/her arse. ...and eh!... Being a logi is expensive... ISK and SP wise. Just try; you'll see. (I have a really bad K/DR, but I manage to get this once! Suck it up OP! )
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 31	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:44:00 - [62] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame it promotes team play not being a COD/KDR B***H
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 768	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:48:00 - [63] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: First Prophet wrote: Should've gone 21/0. Funny!! Skilled logi is not the issue. the multiply equipment drops with no risk to losing costly suits.. When more combat types require the risk of losing isk and costly suits to make #1 is sad. It requires no skill and gives people a lot of xp/isk/wp not cool. That should go to the most skilled not the ones droping militia logi and nanoinjecting people in combat to die again just for SP... You know its true! Awww What you don't realize is that given the amount of supply depots, this isn't always an option. On top of that, equipment raises the cost of dropsuits quite a lot. MLT/standard equipment is not very good. It does help, but I can empty out a MLT or Standard Nanohive and still need ammo. For a logi to be very effective, they must be able to carry 3 - 4 types of Adv. or Prototype Equipment. This means an Advanced or Prototype Dropsuit in most cases, with sacrifices made in the areas of defense and offensive modules (shield/armor modules and weapons). This raises the risk of being a Logistics player greatly, and more than justifies such WP rewards. The guy rezzing you to simply be killed again my be doing it out of noobishness, not to simply farm you for points. In all other cases, any equipment drops or armor repair a Logi does is beneficial to the team.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 80	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:55:00 - [64] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: First Prophet wrote: Should've gone 21/0. Funny!! Skilled logi is not the issue. the multiply equipment drops with no risk to losing costly suits.. When more combat types require the risk of losing isk and costly suits to make #1 is sad. It requires no skill and gives people a lot of xp/isk/wp not cool. That should go to the most skilled not the ones droping militia logi and nanoinjecting people in combat to die again just for SP... You know its true! Awww I think you have a problem with maths. Please explain how dying 15 times indicates that no risk was taken. In a tough match, I almost always go negative. Not 1/15, but, maybe 5/8, 10/15 if its a real grinder. Those tight matches are also where I most consistently end up 1 or 2 on the leaderboard. Why? Well, KDR doesn't get you points (or wins!). Know what does get you points? -Dropping hives at the front lines to keep bullets in people guns. Or better still, dropping them where you know the front line is going to be because you understand tactics and follow the flow of the battle, not just run around in circles shooting everything that moves. - Running into contested areas to establish a new front with well placed uplinks - Get the team ready to move to the next hotspot by repairing who survived, reviving who didn't ALL of these things get you points. ALL of them also get you killed. A lot. And guess what? The tighter the game, the more points you get, because these things are what turn the tide of close battles. Ever wonder why a close game suddenly goes one way? Try looking to see if one of those negative KDR "freeloaders" is at the top of the winning side of board. Consider thanking them if its your team, because they probably just won the battle for your meatshield a$$.
howard sanchez Sanchez Cartage llc 751	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:58:00 - [65] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame Athena, stfu If you think this game is all about your worthless KDr then just take your CoD loving rump right back where you came from. This game is about team play and team contribution. No skill and game knowlege....biyatch...try winning with zero support.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 622	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:01:00 - [66] - Quote I'm soaking up all that logi-love... Feels good!!
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 57	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:03:00 - [67] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame Name marked, the hunt begins.
howard sanchez Sanchez Cartage llc 751	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:05:00 - [68] - Quote So, I only managed to read the OP before I rage responded. Now, looking at all the replies I am wholeheartedly encouraged by the community support and wisdom. Thank goodness the original poster has an isolated case of ignorance. Hope
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 1117	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:09:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. Still here Logibro? need to speak about something, just head over to the T-Dome thread, it's in the war room so watch out...
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2077	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:14:00 - [70] - Quote I am heartened by all the responses to this thread! It's nice to see that most folks understand that the Logi is sacrificing a lot to allow you to shoot people in the face. WPs are awarded for actions that contribute to a win and are a more complete measure of usefulness than KDR. The job is neither easy nor cheap. All that equipment requires ADV or Proto suits to carry and eat up so much CPU and PG that sacrifices are made in both offense and defense. We have to spend extended amounts of time at or past the front line to position all that equipment properly and often get caught and die in very expensive fits. I can go ISK negative even while earning 2k WPs. What do those WPs do for me? I cap out a little earlier that week. It gives me a bit bigger share of the ISK pie, but that comes from significant risk. What does that do for you? - It saves you suits - It saves you walking to he battle for half the match - It keeps up the pace of the game - It earns YOU more SK because more enemy material is destroyed The OP doesn't have a clue what the Logis job is like if he thinks a MLT hive or UL is going to be useful wherever he decides to toss them.

Nihilus Warwick Pradox XVI 57	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:14:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. That's how I come in the top 3-4. Keep everyone alive and supplied. And spawing around the corner from an objective.
Grims Tooth Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:17:00 - [72] - Quote So much Logi Love. Now, if only we can get those health bars back wink wink nudge nudge CCP Logibro
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:17:00 - [73] - Quote Anarchide wrote: You get WP because people use your stuff, you know? So, you must be making some good use of it, no?! no you just swap suits after dropping equipment. so you don't have to make good use of anything. The fact that no one is addressing the issue here of droping equipment and swaping suits = no risk no isk loss - is because its a joke and you know it.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 622	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:19:00 - [74] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Anarchide wrote: You get WP because people use your stuff, you know? So, you must be making some good use of it, no?! no you just swap suits after dropping equipment. so you don't have to make good use of anything. The fact that no one is addressing the issue here of droping equipment and swaping suits = no risk no isk loss - is because its a joke and you know it. Quote: You know nothing, Jon Snow...
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:20:00 - [75] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Please stay on topic of multiple equipment drops and no risk to losing the gear that the drops require but players continue to gain sp/xp/wp from it. You can switch suits over and over dropping all the militia equipment and top the charts higher then players really winning the battle with skill.
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 59	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:22:00 - [76] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Anarchide wrote: You get WP because people use your stuff, you know? So, you must be making some good use of it, no?! no you just swap suits after dropping equipment. so you don't have to make good use of anything. The fact that no one is addressing the issue here of droping equipment and swaping suits = no risk no isk loss - is because its a joke and you know it. Know the thing that wins pc matches as much as killing? Hives to keep heavy s on point defense alive and droplinks that spawn you 5 to 7 seconds faster than the letter. What do you think carries both hmmmm?
SirManBoy Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 233	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:30:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. So then why, dear Logibro, are you calling logi suit/equipment changes at supply depots a bug in your most recent bug report? I call it good, ingenious logi work. Why would you consider a "fix" for this when many logis enjoy this capability and benefit from it greatly?
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:31:00 - [78] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. So then why, dear Logibro, are you calling logi suit/equipment changes at supply depots a bug in your most recent bug report? I call it good, ingenious logi work. Why would you consider a "fix" for this when many logis enjoy this capability and benefit from it greatly? lol really can you source that for me PLEASE !!! I think you have Logibro eating some words here LOL
SirManBoy Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 233	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:34:00 - [79] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. So then why, dear Logibro, are you calling logi suit/equipment changes at supply depots a bug in your most recent bug report? I call it good, ingenious logi work. Why would you consider a "fix" for this when many logis enjoy this capability and benefit from it greatly? lol really can you source that for me PLEASE !!! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=109951
SirManBoy Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 233	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:36:00 - [80] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. So then why, dear Logibro, are you calling logi suit/equipment changes at supply depots a bug in your most recent bug report? I call it good, ingenious logi work. Why would you consider a "fix" for this when many logis enjoy this capability and benefit from it greatly? lol really can you source that for me PLEASE !!! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=109951 Bug report: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1292823#post1292823

Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:37:00 - [81] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: SirManBoy wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: SirManBoy wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. So then why, dear Logibro, are you calling logi suit/equipment changes at supply depots a bug in your most recent bug report? I call it good, ingenious logi work. Why would you consider a "fix" for this when many logis enjoy this capability and benefit from it greatly? lol really can you source that for me PLEASE !!! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=109951 Bug report: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1292823#post1292823 Thank you!
Beck Weathers High-Damage 74	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:38:00 - [82] - Quote I have goon 2500WPs in a battle and only got 5 kills, logis bros ftw!
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:39:00 - [83] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame [BUG] Unlimited Equipment using Supply Depots - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108231&find=unread Status: We're aware of this issue and it's on the backlog to be fixed Thank you Logibro for fixing this bug ! LOL
Revelations12 10-11 BrothersOfWar Corporation 1	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:40:00 - [84] - Quote ...some of you all whine to f'n much.
ToRgUe77 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 4	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:45:00 - [85] - Quote Not exactly sure why someone is complaining about logi's doing they're job
SirManBoy Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 234	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:46:00 - [86] - Quote OP, You realize that we're at odds on this issue, right? It's ridiculous to call suit and equipment changes a bug. It's smart logistics work, plain and simple.
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:46:00 - [87] - Quote ToRgUe77 wrote: Not exactly sure why someone is complaining about logi's doing they're job Nope it is logi exploiting bugs [BUG] Unlimited Equipment using Supply Depots - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108231&find=unread Status: We're aware of this issue and it's on the backlog to be fixed
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:47:00 - [88] - Quote SirManBoy wrote: OP, You realize that we're at odds on this issue, right? It's ridiculous to call suit and equipment changes a bug. It's smart logistics work, plain and simple. CCP calls it a bug - This is from Logibro [BUG] Unlimited Equipment using Supply Depots - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108231&find=unread Status: We're aware of this issue and it's on the backlog to be fixed
SirManBoy Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 236	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:54:00 - [89] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: SirManBoy wrote: OP, You realize that we're at odds on this issue, right? It's ridiculous to call suit and equipment changes a bug. It's smart logistics work, plain and simple. CCP calls it a bug - I am all cool with skilled logi. But there is no risk to drop top end gear and swap suits to something cheap. You have some explaining to do, CCP Logibro. If you and the devs truly believe that this function is a bug, then be prepared to receive some serious logi hate once your "fix" is implemented. A real logibro wouldn't nerf his fellow logibros, CCP Logibro.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 289	Posted - 2013.09.16 03:56:00 - [90] - Quote Hahah. This thread is awesome. Glad to see that all of my hard work does not go unappreciated. For the record, my favorite suit is a adv Gal logi with 391 eHP, an exile, two adv speed stems, an adv stamina stem, double uplinks (four total deployable) and a compact nano. I have a 2.11 kdr (if you think that it is easy running around with 391 eHP and a exile most of the time your insane). I regularly turn the tide of battle with this suit... And to anyone saying that it is easy being a logi, that is absolutly nonsence. It takes a lot of very carful thought and planning (most of the time) espesialy when it is a close battle. When I am done placing uplinks (which most of the time it is a never ending battle just to keep them on the board) if I am still alive, I'll switch to my nano suit and start droping pro triage and pro guaged nanos in supremely stratigic locations. If I survive through this, and all my uplinks are still in relevant locations, I'll switch to either my rep/rez/scan logi, or my adv Gal medium slayer suit (two comp damage mods and 559 armor with a GK-13, GLU, or GEK, an a compact nano), just depends on what I feel is more needed. tbh, I don't see how switching at depots is a problem, it is a lot of hard work doing what I do, and most of the time it is a thankless job (not as recognized or praised as much as the "slayer"). I see no reason why the equipment I deploy in one suit should all-of-a-sudden vanish because I happen to be in a different suit with different equipment at some point in a match. I work very hard to get that equipment out on the board.



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