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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:56:00 -
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Hahah. This thread is awesome. Glad to see that all of my hard work does not go unappreciated. For the record, my favorite suit is a adv Gal logi with 391 eHP, an exile, two adv speed stems, an adv stamina stem, double uplinks (four total deployable) and a compact nano. I have a 2.11 kdr (if you think that it is easy running around with 391 eHP and a exile most of the time your insane). I regularly turn the tide of battle with this suit... And to anyone saying that it is easy being a logi, that is absolutly nonsence. It takes a lot of very carful thought and planning (most of the time) espesialy when it is a close battle. When I am done placing uplinks (which most of the time it is a never ending battle just to keep them on the board) if I am still alive, I'll switch to my nano suit and start droping pro triage and pro guaged nanos in supremely stratigic locations. If I survive through this, and all my uplinks are still in relevant locations, I'll switch to either my rep/rez/scan logi, or my adv Gal medium slayer suit (two comp damage mods and 559 armor with a GK-13, GLU, or GEK, an a compact nano), just depends on what I feel is more needed. tbh, I don't see how switching at depots is a problem, it is a lot of hard work doing what I do, and most of the time it is a thankless job (not as recognized or praised as much as the "slayer"). I see no reason why the equipment I deploy in one suit should all-of-a-sudden vanish because I happen to be in a different suit with different equipment at some point in a match. I work very hard to get that equipment out on the board. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:21:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Hahah. This thread is awesome. Glad to see that all of my hard work does not go unappreciated. For the record, my favorite suit is a adv Gal logi with 391 eHP, an exile, two adv speed stems, an adv stamina stem, double uplinks (four total deployable) and a compact nano. I have a 2.11 kdr (if you think that it is easy running around with 391 eHP and a exile most of the time your insane). I regularly turn the tide of battle with this suit... And to anyone saying that it is easy being a logi, that is absolutly nonsence. It takes a lot of very carful thought and planning (most of the time) espesialy when it is a close battle. When I am done placing uplinks (which most of the time it is a never ending battle just to keep them on the board) if I am still alive, I'll switch to my nano suit and start droping pro triage and pro guaged nanos in supremely stratigic locations. If I survive through this, and all my uplinks are still in relevant locations, I'll switch to either my rep/rez/scan logi, or my adv Gal medium slayer suit (two comp damage mods and 559 armor with a GK-13, GLU, or GEK, an a compact nano), just depends on what I feel is more needed. tbh, I don't see how switching at depots is a problem, it is a lot of hard work doing what I do, and most of the time it is a thankless job (not as recognized or praised as much as the "slayer"). I see no reason why the equipment I deploy in one suit should all-of-a-sudden vanish because I happen to be in a different suit with different equipment at some point in a match. I work very hard to get that equipment out on the board. If this is true, what is the point of limiting equipment slots? Might as well make logi really easy to fit and let us all fit all logi? No reason to limit slots if all you have to do is switch at a depot to drop all... Its a game bug and you're exploiting it - enjoy for now until you need real skill to be a good Logi !!
Depots aren't always under your control, are often hotspots/fought over, and having limited resources requires the use of stratigic play.
Depots are nice but not at all necessary, when, after I die, I can repeploy in any suit I like. I still don't see the reasoning behind why my deployed equipment should disappear if I am in another suit or deploying different equipment. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:31:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:SirManBoy wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Noticed the edit on the thread title. I think you might be overstating the quality of your "argument".
Dangit SMB, why did you feed this troll such juicy and easily misrepresented information? The OPs underdeveloped critical thinking skills were all but certain to take it and run like this. He even thinks your on his side! Sorry, bro. Truthfully, I just want answers. The bug report seriously pissed me off because it's ridiculous to call creative, innovative play a "bug". Many logis have this function to thank for all of the amazing support possibilities that are currently available to them. Take this capability away and our class becomes far less dynamic and the game becomes less fun. Hell, removing our ability to move tons of equipment across the map to support our team goes against what the name of our class is predicated upon. WE ARE LOGISTICS! The real fix it to have dropped equipment cost players isk then. If you drop a top end spawn you lose the isk equal to the cost of equipping it. You have to see that having the ability to drop expensive equipment and then switch suits and not risking any lose for the equipment drops is unfair? Other have to risk and do good in combat to get the same points as a logi risking nothing. It's not like we never die in our best gear, dude. On average, my deaths cost WAY more than yours do, bud. I promise you that.
Couldn't agree more, it already cost a but load of money to be a logi. And if I have to pay to deply equipment, then you slayers should have to pay for bullets, and you should have to pay me directly if any of those bullets came from one of my nanos, and you should have to pay me for repairing your suit, and rezing you. How do you like them apples? |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:41:00 -
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@Athena Sentinel
"If your equipment drops are free, so should the cost of my heavy weapon."
Did you loose your suit? ...no? Then it was free. I want to see you run around with 391 eHP and an exile and the talk to me about free.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
290
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:50:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Skihids wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:SirManBoy wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Noticed the edit on the thread title. I think you might be overstating the quality of your "argument".
Dangit SMB, why did you feed this troll such juicy and easily misrepresented information? The OPs underdeveloped critical thinking skills were all but certain to take it and run like this. He even thinks your on his side! Sorry, bro. Truthfully, I just want answers. The bug report seriously pissed me off because it's ridiculous to call creative, innovative play a "bug". Many logis have this function to thank for all of the amazing support possibilities that are currently available to them. Take this capability away and our class becomes far less dynamic and the game becomes less fun. Hell, removing our ability to move tons of equipment across the map to support our team goes against what the name of our class is predicated upon. WE ARE LOGISTICS! The real fix it to have dropped equipment cost players isk then. If you drop a top end spawn you lose the isk equal to the cost of equipping it. You have to see that having the ability to drop expensive equipment and then switch suits and not risking any lose for the equipment drops is unfair? Other have to risk and do good in combat to get the same points as a logi risking nothing. There is PLENTY of risk! A Logi is running around in a squishy expensive fit at or past the front line and will lose that it often enough to its serious ISK. I personally lose enough fits supporting you that I could net more ISK running a BPO Assault suit. You think only of the suit after the equipment is placed. You don't consider the danger and expense required to place it, as if I can spawn at the ground base and magically transport it to the front line without putting myself at risk. Like I've told others before, try it yourself and see if it's as easy as you think before crying about it. It's easy to spout ignorant opinions, it's another to do the research. The research is done and CCP says its a bug and logi players are exploiting it. So who is ignorant here? Our suits require CPU and PG to run equipment. When you lose the suit your equipment should lose its remote power source and be disconnected like DRONES in EVE.. you leave and they go dead! How about the ability to pick them up and move them? But still no switching suits bs....
We'll see what this "fix" is. Does anyone want to bet me that I will still be able to deploy different equipment from another suit without having my privious equipment disappear after I die, after this "fix". Like I said before, depots are nice but they are not at all necessary.
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.16 04:55:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:You mean before you run back and switch suits at a supply depot - then your safe and just have to let the points roll in well you afk in the MCC or run around in a cheap noob suit LOL
No dude, for the vast majority I logi all game long. |
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