What I find stupefying is that people are complaining about how effectively we support them.

This isn't a case of someone killing them too easily, it's a complaint that they don't want for ammo, a place to spawn, reps, and the like.

No, they are willing to cut off their nose to spite their face because they see us as being unjustly rewarded for our effort to help them.

Never mind that they are completely wrong about the effort and risk involved, it's the whiny self centered attitude that those who spend all match carting water for them shouldn't be so presumptuous as to out score them that gets to me.

Ignorance I can forgive, but KDR snobbery is intentional stupidity. They have their precious statistic, but they can't leave it t that. They demand the lions share of the WPs as well.

That's a separate issue. Yes, you shouldn't be able to spam an unlimited amount of equipment, but a logibro using their equipment efficiently should and can still make a massive difference and is capable of racking up an impressive number of war points.

Real simple fix probably already on its way ; points for destroying equipment. equipment pile + flux grenade = WP big ups

I know for a fact this doesn't happen (since I regularly replenish hives before they expire). I will do this using different fits and each time, even across the map, I will hear the previous versions pop. The only possibility is that my preferred method of keeping my whole squad alive and kicking on several fronts is actually a "bug"

I will use (at 2-4 different locations) a combination of 2 Wyrkomi Triage, 3 Guaged nano, 2 allotek, 2 K/17d and at least 2 more X-3's if not a K-2 here or there away from Supply depots. This allows me to run from place to place (I have no proto suits) with my proto nanite and rep tool to fortify an area under heavy attack as the rest of the team can make due with my equip till I get back there. This method would be impossible for just 1 person to do if this is taken away, and will take yet another gun out of the "assault" characters hands and put an injector in its place instead.

Please don't tell me that this is what you mean by a "bug", CCP. There shouldn't be any restrictions as long as you never have more than the max active number of that specific type of nanohive/uplink. I would have assumed this was a clever use of the rules in the game, not an exploitation. This was my intention from the start of speccing into logi, and now that it has finally come to pass, I find out I'm a cheater?

Maybe OP can actually RESPOND to people.

Is this guy's tactic what you're referring to? The ability to have twelve or whatever different types of Nanohive on the field? Or the (apparently now fixed) ability to place as many MLT nanohives as you want?

Or is this entire thread just flame bait?

The Op responded to both the people you quoted.

Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi.

If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol

it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it...

Listen, we know that the assaulters are mad that you are going 20-0 and you aren't number 1.

Guess what? They get points for doing their job, the same that you get points for killing. Placement on the scoreboard don't mean sh*t and quite frankly, the win is more important.

Your blueberry found out he couldn't slay people. So instead he picked up a support kit, and healed and supported the team. He deserves those war points because he helped EVERYONE. At least he is trying to be helpful (and succeeding) rather than redline sniping or AFK'ing.

He probably even helped you a bit with those nanohives and reps and revives. So be thankful, not spiteful.

Hm, lets try looking at this another way. We don't need logi with the current system, my corp now just use militia Min logi suit, with militia drop spawn and nanohive. We run in drop the junk, back to depot switch to combat and we have our own logi support. Logi suits are also a waste of time because there is no benefit to more SPU or PG or extra equipment slots, if I can do all this in a Assault or any suit and a supply depot. . We can have Assault suits and carry a equipment slot, drop, switch, drop... Logi are pointless.

The problem now is so much logi equpiment on the field.. really 20 spawn points no nanohives - let me guess, they make less SP. Getting nanoinjected in combat to die before you can move so they can get their 60 SP before dieing themselves.

Lol you must be in a npc corps, because if you guys ever played pc you would understand the error in your ways.

Your name is Athena, for the goddess of wisdom, your pretty dim.

PC is broken from what I have heard. And only a fool would be on forums with their main character. good day!

PC is broken from what I have heard. And only a fool would be on forums with their main character. good day!

Lol you must be in a npc corps, because if you guys ever played pc you would understand the error in your ways.

Your name is Athena, for the goddess of wisdom, your pretty dim.

@ Kira
Oh Please. PC was always about Nade spamming and droplink spamming. Don't hate on Mr. Blueberry for trying to help his team is what I'm saying. He will learn better ways to help with experience, but try not to smack him down too quick. Also, your comment had absolutely no constructive point at all. Try not to troll to hard.

@Athena
Don't listen to Mr. Douche. Wisdom is seeing all sides of the argument, and that is what you are doing. And yeah, you are right. Logi has no place at the moment with the current exploit. However, if you can eliminate the supply depot's and destroy the equipment (can be done, and will be done if necessary in PC), then the Logi becomes vital again.

You can dump the logi in the squad, but then your Assaults will have to spread the equipment out between themselves. The extra CPU/PG this will require will make the soldiers less powerful on their own. I am still a big fan of a dedicated logi, as I like having a person whose sole purpose is to keep the squad operating at full potential. It is a tradeoff, and both sides are possible and viable. It really just comes down to preference. See my point?

As for the suicide revives, there isn't much you could do. Idiots with revives are in every game (BF3 comes to mind), and very few understand when to revive and when to let the clone die. I personally think that you should no points from revives until a set time after the revive, thus rewarding those who can revive and protect the revived clone.

We can have Assault suits and carry a equipment slot, drop, switch, drop... Logi are pointless.

As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed.

The Logibro life is a good life.

The 'glitch' in question is that the limits apply only to each specific type of equipment. So if you carry STD, ADV and PRO uplinks you can drop 1x STD, 2x ADV and 3x PROTO for a total of 6x uplinks in play.

Funny!!

Skilled logi is not the issue. the multiply equipment drops with no risk to losing costly suits.. When more combat types require the risk of losing isk and costly suits to make #1 is sad.

It requires no skill and gives people a lot of xp/isk/wp not cool. That should go to the most skilled not the ones droping militia logi and nanoinjecting people in combat to die again just for SP... You know its true!

Awww

PC is broken from what I have heard. And only a fool would be on forums with their main character. good day!

Knock yourself out, chief. Run back and forth all day long to swap suits, take your assault suit out of the fight. Oh, and have fun watching your precious KDR drop, too!
Also, still pretty sure you are mistaking a now-fixed bug for something that is working as intendedGäó. I see no reason why equipment should be any different than anything else that can be replenished all day at supply depots.
Would be nice if we could get confirmation of that from CCP Logibro, of course.



(p.s. Not being a troll, fool, or coward, I post on my main all day long, as do many of the people who have had the audacity to oppose your opinion on this thread. Saw some of them in game just the other night. Come find me on the battlefield any time, I don't particularly care.)

That's a separate issue. Yes, you shouldn't be able to spam an unlimited amount of equipment, but a logibro using their equipment efficiently should and can still make a massive difference and is capable of racking up an impressive number of war points.