As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed.

The Logibro life is a good life.

lol really can you source that for me PLEASE !!!

CCP calls it a bug - I am all cool with skilled logi. But there is no risk to drop top end gear and swap suits to something cheap.

Hahah. This thread is awesome. Glad to see that all of my hard work does not go unappreciated. For the record, my favorite suit is a adv Gal logi with 391 eHP, an exile, two adv speed stems, an adv stamina stem, double uplinks (four total deployable) and a compact nano. I have a 2.11 kdr (if you think that it is easy running around with 391 eHP and a exile most of the time your insane). I regularly turn the tide of battle with this suit... And to anyone saying that it is easy being a logi, that is absolutly nonsence. It takes a lot of very carful thought and planning (most of the time) espesialy when it is a close battle. When I am done placing uplinks (which most of the time it is a never ending battle just to keep them on the board) if I am still alive, I'll switch to my nano suit and start droping pro triage and pro guaged nanos in supremely stratigic locations. If I survive through this, and all my uplinks are still in relevant locations, I'll switch to either my rep/rez/scan logi, or my adv Gal medium slayer suit (two comp damage mods and 559 armor with a GK-13, GLU, or GEK, an a compact nano), just depends on what I feel is more needed. tbh, I don't see how switching at depots is a problem, it is a lot of hard work doing what I do, and most of the time it is a thankless job (not as recognized or praised as much as the "slayer"). I see no reason why the equipment I deploy in one suit should all-of-a-sudden vanish because I happen to be in a different suit with different equipment at some point in a match. I work very hard to get that equipment out on the board.

Noticed the edit on the thread title. I think you might be overstating the quality of your "argument".

Dangit SMB, why did you feed this troll such juicy and easily misrepresented information? The OPs underdeveloped critical thinking skills were all but certain to take it and run like this. He even thinks your on his side!

The real fix it to have dropped equipment cost players isk then. If you drop a top end spawn you lose the isk equal to the cost of equipping it.

You have to see that having the ability to drop expensive equipment and then switch suits and not risking any lose for the equipment drops is unfair? Other have to risk and do good in combat to get the same points as a logi risking nothing.

That's a separate issue. Yes, you shouldn't be able to spam an unlimited amount of equipment, but a logibro using their equipment efficiently should and can still make a massive difference and is capable of racking up an impressive number of war points.

Sounds like this is working as intended. Obviously you can deploy a full spectrum of hives and uplinks from standard up to proto, as well you should be able to do this because it is not the same equipment.

The 10,000 dollar question is can you shed any light on any so called exploit?

Pretty sure a lot of us do that. The amarr logi suit is just a weee bit too slow for that initial run from the default spawn point, so I have a speedy little minny med frame I start every battle with, then either get killed by the initial red berry rush(it's a cheapie, not so durable) or hack the supply depot and swap out to a proper logi suit once I've dropped the flux uplinks the first suit carries. (they take like half the suits CPU by themselves, lol).

Considering you can do this with any other suit to insta-heal, it hardly seems like an exploit. Should an assault be stuck with an AR if 3 HAVs show up? No, he can go swap over to an AV fit with freshly restocked health and other goodies.
Now, if this same trick allowed me to drop 28 of those exact same "max deployed: 2" flux uplinks, yes, that's a bug and should be fixed. But why can't I drop my 2 flux, and my 2 quantums, 2 R-9's, etc? Why do so many exist if you can't use them all?

SirManBoy - If they cannot understand that - They simply are just not listening.

Sounds like this is working as intended. Obviously you can deploy a full spectrum of hives and uplinks from standard up to proto, as well you should be able to do this because it is not the same equipment.

The 10,000 dollar question is can you shed any light on any so called exploit?

Can we get a specific description on what that separate issues is viewed as and what "fixes" are being contemplated for it?

The above 'bug report' and response is making me extremely wary, because it looks a bit like we're going to go through another cycle of "let's balance the whole game around the almighty kill" as if that is and should be the apex of all actions taken on the field or in the game. Treating game balance that way guts diversity and narrows the possibilities for player innovation, that's not much of a sandbox experience.

EVE has quite a bit of PvP going on, but even within the PvP not all of it is about pewpew, there's market PvP which plays a huge role in what happens and how, without diversity and meaningful roles outside of pewpew there wouldn't be event's like hulkageddon, there wouldn't be meta gaming to grab researched BPOs, there wouldn't be nearly as much value/motive to inhabiting w-space or deploying POS. How many EVE players focus on the Mining, Market and Indy/Production aspects of the game? Yes D514 is a different animal in some ways but reducing the possible number of play styles will not result in a higher player population or increased longevity for the game.

Right now depots allow unlimited refresh and resupply of weapons, and with a suit swap armor as well. In essence the depot gives limitless tank and gank when interacted with. It also currently allows the same effect for equipment, while still preventing any player from deploying more of a specific equipment time than is listed on that equipments profile. So at present there is a parity to how things work. Is CCP honestly considering making a change to how depots function so that the gank/tank element remains unlimited but the equipment aspect is throttled?
I certainly hope not because that doesn't appear to foster anything except a "kills are all that matters" attitude, players - on average - will do what is rewarded, thus rewarding one play style will 'flatten' the game overall.

Support play is already weaker in Dust than in EVE, and so far there is a total absence of any play types outside of the combat hot zones, yet somehow certain forum users still want those aspects which are not purely gank focused to be diminished even further which is 180 degrees the wrong direction to be headed in.

....and people wonder why "slayer-Logi" are a thing, it's because of this constant push to make slaying the best/only viable way to earn WP/ISK/SP, when that push is accepted by the community let alone acted upon by the Devs of course that's who every item on the market is viewed and employed. Also interesting to note that the Cal Assault can now get over 800 shield HP, on a suit with better shield recharge, but there hasn't been a tide of tears about how it's "obviously broken" etc.

When it comes to earnings, and to a lessor extent tactical performance, support play is weaker now than it was in Chrome, or CODEX (repair tool aside for CODEX), and yet every patch within Uprising sees another new wave of QQ demanding that support roles take another nerf bat to the face, usually while claiming that it isn't nerfing them at all

Okay, wall of text over, but seriously I want a response to this, what's the official stance here? And if any response you can give has to be 'off the record' then mail me in game, I know you know how and I wouldn't be allowed to post anything like that because doing so would violate the EULA.

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Wrong....this bug is specifically (and incorrectly) referring to being able to exceed the "Max number of Active equipment". It incorrectly groups all nanohives (for example) as the same. I can put 1 active militia nanohive out. This bug report is stating I could put an unlimited number of militia nanohives...which is incorrect. What I CAN do is 1 militia hive, 1 hive, 1 compact hive, 2 K-2 hives, 2 quantum hives, 2 K-17 rep hives, etc... That is not a bug.

Maybe you can spam out all the militia hives you want if you are near a supply depot, I wouldn't know. I've got enough variety in the types of hives and uplinks I've SKILLED into to not have to worry about spamming a hive that pops after resupplying 3 grenades.