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Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 681	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:53:00 - [31] - Quote War points are a pretty accurate description of what help tha player brought to the team, their not war points their worth points
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 219	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:54:00 - [32] - Quote What a kidder! Fit yourself an common medium suit, put rep hives on it, BAM! 1k+ WP. Wait, you dont have rep hives? What, no hives at all? Thats a pity. Guess that one logi got to carry the entire f-¦cking team on his f-¦cking shoulders. He was the reason you werent redlined that match, buddy. He was busy keeping the assault going while you were stroking your rifle in the corner. Logi topping the leaderboard is a sign of a) bad team, b) good logi, or in cases of disproportional amounts of WP distribution, c) both. Oh and on a personal note: I sacrifice MY K/D so that YOUR whiney blue ass can do another push for the objective. HTFU and start being useful
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite 114	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:56:00 - [33] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I earn about 2500 wp on average with a positive kdr I love being a logi/forge/assault/everything. You get more points when you have more than just one role. See a tank? I switch to my forge and get lots of points. See a group of heavies? throw down some nanohives and support them while they rush an objective. See a group of player rushing my objective? switch to a heavily armored assault with damage mods and a scanner to wipe them out before they even knew what hit them. Not everyone has the number of SP that you do where they can run multiple roles yet, being able to do everything is nice, but being focused on one role in the beginning is what this game is about. After your specific role is filled out you branch out. Sounds like the logi the op was talking about is doing just that supporting first slaying second. Along those lines this is the reason in TF2 you always see medics at the top of the score board in even comp games. That medic makes or breaks the team but will die more than anyone else. KDR is nothing in a team based game.
Slag Emberforge Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:58:00 - [34] - Quote OP you are bad, and you should feel bad. I am specialized as heavy put have put points into logi suit and devices, why? If you can run in and setup a spawn point to bring in multiple mercs to overrun your enemy, it's much more effective then going in Rambo. Also when I die after completing said mission I pop into a heavy suit and guard my incoming team mates as they come through. Should I get rewarded for giving my team a tactical advantage? Absolutely.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 393	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:59:00 - [35] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: War points are a pretty accurate description of what help tha player brought to the team, their not war points their worth points The only thing a logi does that isn't rewarded for WP is use an active scanner, but it's pretty darn useful
Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 33	Posted - 2013.09.15 23:59:00 - [36] - Quote If the logi is dying 15 times how is he going positive my dirt cheap logi fit is like 12k and I can only use a std injector, repper and links not exactly a big WP producer 12 x 15 is 180 so I'd have to make 180k just to avoid going negative on a standard suit math doesn't add up unless you do an insane amount of repping get an insane amount of team spawns from one link and if people go down in front of you and don't die as soon as you get there.
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite 115	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:02:00 - [37] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: If the logi is dying 15 times how is he going positive my dirt cheap logi fit is like 12k and I can only use a std injector, repper and links not exactly a big WP producer 12 x 15 is 180 so I'd have to make 180k just to avoid going negative on a standard suit math doesn't add up unless you do an insane amount of repping get an insane amount of team spawns from one link and if people go down in front of you and don't die as soon as you get there. op isnt talking postive cash, hes talking being top of the team with a negative KDR.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 915	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:04:00 - [38] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame that is skill, being able to supply your team effectively... working as intended.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 1776	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:10:00 - [39] - Quote As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 220	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:11:00 - [40] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Not everyone has the number of SP that you do where they can run multiple roles yet, being able to do everything is nice, but being focused on one role in the beginning is what this game is about. I run around in militia light and heavy suits a lot. If you got neither on your position, switching to one of those often carries huge benefits for your team. Last match I took out a blaster tank dominating the objective, and a handful infantry with just a militia forgegun fit, creating an opportunity for my team to storm the sh!t out of it. And I cant even heavy. I also run militia scouts all the time in pub with a single complex ferroscale plate and a militia shotgun, cheap and nasty. Just be flexible.

Saxbrin Shain The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:17:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. I love you.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 259	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:19:00 - [42] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame HTFU this is the logi's job! And mind you, but I'm a Logi, I rep, rezz, and resupply (The three R's ) every match, and usually get a good k/d, most recently 32-2 with 2500 WP.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 733	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:21:00 - [43] - Quote KDR is not the be-all, end-all of shooters. KDR is important in Crawl On Dookie, which has created this mono dimensional mindset that people get into. It isn't always a Logi thing either... Today, I had a 2/38/9 match with my HMG. Top of my team's board. (38 assists, FFS) That UplinkHackScout that put you in position to win deserves just as much credit as anyone else on the team, even if he never pulled the trigger. That AVer that took out the HAV that had your team pinned down, probably went negative trying to clear your exit. Pew pew pew gets boring, fast. No matter the win margin or length of epeen stroke.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1595	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:26:00 - [44] - Quote Imagine a game where it was a whole lot easier to get points from slaying. Why would the logis do anything? Making logi work more rewarding just makes more sense.
Mortedeamor Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 243	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:27:00 - [45] - Quote a good logi with proper cheep fits can harvest the hp and wp of a match even if the allied team is being crushed, and playing alone should be able to run 1k-3k wp which is higher than what slayers pull generally. then they're are also logis that harvest the turrets for extra wp wit side specced av like myself...and with a squad such a logi generally pulls high kills if fitted right, and vs scrubs a good logi can pull 2500 wp and 20-30 kills as well alone . in most cases the only wp competition for a good logi would be a good av spec with plenty to kill or a good tanker ...(chromosome).. for example with a full squad running logi alone i will generally pull 2k-2500 wp assuming the match is and even battle where our side even needs healing..in some pub stomps the best i can do in my logi suit is slay a bit...also it only take 2 minutes to drive around most of these maps and take out most of the turrets and someone can easily get 1200 wp off that alone then switch to logi and harvest healing wp. you should specc your character to harvest the different wp aspects of thee battle field...speccing av will provide kills and more wp combined witha logi lav..and maybe one day running logi in a logi lav will be viable that would be amazing dust is wp kdr is meaningless
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 220	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:29:00 - [46] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: If the logi is dying 15 times how is he going positive my dirt cheap logi fit is like 12k and I can only use a std injector, repper and links not exactly a big WP producer 12 x 15 is 180 so I'd have to make 180k just to avoid going negative on a standard suit math doesn't add up unless you do an insane amount of repping get an insane amount of team spawns from one link and if people go down in front of you and don't die as soon as you get there. My STD tier suit is 16k. STD hive/uplink, STD reptool, ADV syringe, STD Scrambler Rifle. Dying 10 times a match at max. To get 15 deaths as a logi indicates a meatgrinder match, thats no way the average. Also, if you-¦re not doing 250k in a match at least you are doing it wrong.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 765	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:35:00 - [47] - Quote From the perspective of a 12.5 mil SP fully Dedicated Heavy, Logistics are by far the most valuable asset to have on your team. I have been known to rack upwards of 3000 WP fending off hordes of reds only because a good logi kept me resupplied with ammo hives, repped with Triage Hives, and Core Repair Tool (Especially while taking nearly 8 seconds to reload my HMG while under constant fire), and revived me when I did happen to fall. If I fell one to many times, or took one to the dome, I could get right back into the fight by spawning in on his uplink. The logi I'm talking about here is damn good! We both earn damn near the same amount of WP when we pair up, and have been known to earn 2 - 3 Orbital Strikes on our own, sometimes four. A lot of times, we can't even use the Orbitals because we are too busy fending off the reds! Logibros deserve every single WP they get, probably more!
TunRa Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 180	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:38:00 - [48] - Quote This game isn't about killing killing killing. It is a TEAM based game where you need TEAMWORK! Not CODWORK!
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 765	Posted - 2013.09.16 00:38:00 - [49] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: KDR is not the be-all, end-all of shooters. KDR is important in Crawl On Dookie, which has created this mono dimensional mindset that people get into. It isn't always a Logi thing either... Today, I had a 2/38/9 match with my HMG. Top of my team's board. (38 assists, FFS) That UplinkHackScout that put you in position to win deserves just as much credit as anyone else on the team, even if he never pulled the trigger. That AVer that took out the HAV that had your team pinned down, probably went negative trying to clear your exit. Pew pew pew gets boring, fast. No matter the win margin or length of epeen stroke. 38 assist FFS thats crazy dude! I usually get like 10ish with +-25 kills. 38 assist wow!
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:06:00 - [50] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. Running one suit to drop spawms, then switching suits and droping nonohives, then switching suits and running around with a nanoinjector is how you want logi to work? I can make a cheap suit run and drop a spawn and come back as a heavy than. What a broken system to think logi should get points for not doing anything work and make #1 on the charts.

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 734	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:28:00 - [51] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Rynoceros wrote: KDR is not the be-all, end-all of shooters. KDR is important in Crawl On Dookie, which has created this mono dimensional mindset that people get into. It isn't always a Logi thing either... Today, I had a 2/38/9 match with my HMG. Top of my team's board. (38 assists, FFS) That UplinkHackScout that put you in position to win deserves just as much credit as anyone else on the team, even if he never pulled the trigger. That AVer that took out the HAV that had your team pinned down, probably went negative trying to clear your exit. Pew pew pew gets boring, fast. No matter the win margin or length of epeen stroke. 38 assist FFS thats crazy dude! I usually get like 10ish with +-25 kills. 38 assist wow! I was not so amused. OK, maybe a little - by the ridiculousness. 25/10/10 is a decent usual match on my Heavy, but Fn Blewberries...
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 43	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:46:00 - [52] - Quote I drop a uplink, change, drop nanohive, change or sometimes stay. Depends on fit. A good way to rack up points as an Assault player. Or any poayer that isn't a logi.
SgtDoughnut M.E.R.C. Elite 118	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:49:00 - [53] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. Running one suit to drop spawms, then switching suits and droping nonohives, then switching suits and running around with a nanoinjector all in one battle - all the drops continue to run - is how you want logi to work? I can make a cheap suit run and drop a militia spawn and come back as a heavy than. What a broken system to think logi should get points for not doing any work or risking any costly suits and make #1 on the charts. You do know the logi, espcially proto can carry hive, spawn, rep tool and scanner all on one suit right, the logi lets you carry multiple peices of equipment, to bring what is needed when its needed.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 393	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:53:00 - [54] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. Running one suit to drop spawms, then switching suits and droping nonohives, then switching suits and running around with a nanoinjector all in one battle - all the drops continue to run - is how you want logi to work? I can make a cheap suit run and drop a militia spawn and come back as a heavy than. What a broken system to think logi should get points for not doing any work or risking any costly suits and make #1 on the charts. Do it then, make a cheap suit with uplinks, deploy them then switch to a heavy. Tell me how many WP you will get. I expect you to do this and give me an exact amount of WP you got.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1061	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:55:00 - [55] - Quote Should've gone 21/0.
Orca Amsel Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 439	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:57:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: As a dedicated logibro (no, the name isn't just for show) this is not unusual for me to come close to the top or even top the leaderboard as a logistics with less kills than other people. Keep in mind that a kill is +50wp, while a revive is +60wp with additional triage points while you rep them back to full health. Then throw in resupplys or team spawns. And to think it's only going to get better when we add in points for scanning targets that then get killed. The Logibro life is a good life. Well you get points for repairing someone when it works. Like most other things in this game points for repairing a person does not always work. A few times at the start of a ambush match I would repair someone after they have been shot and get no WP for it.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 465	Posted - 2013.09.16 01:58:00 - [57] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Players are toping the charts with 1 kill and 15 deaths over players with 20 kills 0 deaths because they are dropping logi. If you drop a spawn point and go to a supply depot you can change suits drop a nanohive, change again and have a nanoinjector - all will work for you at the same time, even if you die a bunch. Its almost like cheating lol it requires no skill and no game knowledge, but you will get the most WP and most ISK and most Exp from it... Lame Hey S *** bag listen up. Medics are on top because they keep the team alive. worthless C RAP like you just play for kills. We heal you revive you give you ammo scan for you and put uplinks for you. Your damn right we are on top of this list. Stop playing this game you kill whoring piece of trash.
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:15:00 - [58] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Should've gone 21/0. Funny!! Skilled logi is not the issue. the multiply equipment drops with no risk to losing costly suits.. When more combat types require the risk of losing isk and costly suits to make #1 is sad. It requires no skill and gives people a lot of xp/isk/wp not cool. That should go to the most skilled not the ones droping militia logi and nanoinjecting people in combat to die again just for SP... You know its true! Awww
dustwaffle Commando Perkone Caldari State 514	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:25:00 - [59] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Do it then, make a cheap suit with uplinks, deploy them then switch to a heavy. Tell me how many WP you will get. I expect you to do this and give me an exact amount of WP you got. Do it. End game screenshot as well.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 159	Posted - 2013.09.16 02:27:00 - [60] - Quote Now, you are starting to sound like an "elitest" and not the good kind. You sound like the "waah, waah...i should get everything for killing everyone", egocentric type. Lol @ you. Meet me in game....I'll "humble" you.



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