Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make?

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

I am skilled at Dust and still enjoy it, because the aimbot is by far not as bad as many people think it is.

very fine points

Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make?

6/10

Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make?

Oh my god, people raging the **** out and threatening to quit forever the day after a patch has NEVER HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER GAME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.

I mean, seriously, do you think this is what they want, or something? That something they've said they were going to keep an eye on after it released, and have already made posts in their "Known Issues" thread about looking into is now just going to be left like this to spite all of us?

It's only one goddam day after the patch, people. They've already talked about having hotfixes in for standing issues before the end of this week, and aim assist will be one of those.

Stop acting like 5-year olds.

see what i mean? you try to troll cuz you cant put up a solid argument and i can

This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist?

That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted.

What will you do?

Will you cry and moan?

Or will you adapt and overcome?

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

"our milliions of sp" lol

I am a vet of almost 2 years with 12 million sp, don't speak for me

the higher the RoF the more the sticky glue aiming helps, so the sticky should be lowered from 50% to 30% on lasers and HMG/ARs, while staying the same for pistols and other small weapons.

It's not game breaking...

The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly.

acting like 5 year olds? your the one freaking out, im giving constructive feedback of the competitive players of dust

I see no solid argument. I see a bunch of feels. Each one of your opinions can be countered with the opinions of someone else, and neither of you would be wrong.

EDIT: I should add that I gave 6/10 because while I will agree with you that the aim assist is a bit much, I don't think it's nearly as game-breaking as you are making it out to be,

maby being skilled at dust is being able to read. I say:

and you say we are reckless and belive we have a god aimming playstyle. Nice pickup

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

A. I'd hardly classify my statement as "freaking out".
B. All you have to do is look at the title of the thread to see you're not even trying to be constructive. You're just blowing it our of proportion like everyone else.

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Quick question for ya. How do you know your opponent is noob? With this new MM, shouldn't your opponents be similar skill, supposedly? Is it because they are using inferior gear? Maybe they have Prof 5 and just using cheaper gear?

Maybe it's just the improved hit detection that is outclassing you? I notice that I melt very quickly now. I'm sure the aim-assist plays a role, but since I'm not doing the shooting at myself, I can't be sure of my opponents aiming skill.

Personally, I think it is a perfect storm. CCP slowed the strafe speed, improved hit detection, and "fixed" the aim-assist. All these things combined make auto weapons extremely efficient. They probably could of done with fixing the hit detection and strafe speed, and left the aim-assist for another patch.

skill = dead

aimbot = win

If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ?

If you want a very direct answer, you can mail them after the game and ask them how much SP they have. Otherwise, you can tell how skilled they are by the gear they have, their tactics (flanking, retreating, strafing, equipment use, using cover, ect) and how they work with others as you play them through out the game. If someone is doing very poor in all of those, and you are making very efficient use of all of these but their still killing you there is a promblem

*Cough*Why not make scan profile dictate the power of aim assist?

so heavies will be hard to miss, but AA will perform poorly on scouts.*Cough*

I'm coming for you just for that

Ok EXAMPLE.

First underline is almost every FPS game.

Second underline had nothing to do with FPS mechanics. larger HP is a MMO thing.

Third underline. longer game time and better gear is definite MMO thing. NOT FPS. So is a noob not being able to compete with VETS. Name me a FPS where LV 22 can't blow away a VET 3 times over. Why? cause roll over exp from other FPS games. Skills learned from other FPS games evens the odds.

Your reasons have some validity, if dust was a genuine MMO. But it's really a FPS lobby. why does aim assists exists? player retention. Aim assists... wait for it. Assists all players. vet and noob alike. you should be getting more kills. even if your dying a bit more.

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

AA would remain the same on a heavy but scouts wouldn't have AR's that lock on like closed beta swarm launchers.

Also, Warlord (or anyone interested) sign up for the T-Dome

The channel?

yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful

Hating on heavies

TDome 514
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This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist?

That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted.

What will you do?

Will you cry and moan?

Or will you adapt and overcome?

Sorry, but Scouts need help too, HMGs need a sharpshooter skill and 15 extra feet of range

He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor

then speak for yourself

sure you can you're either better than the other person or you're not I've stated this before all these proto guys pub stomping low level players you all sucked and the only thing seperating you from them was sp now that those scrubs youve been stomping have aim assists your extra armor ammo and damage are crap. You were crappy players with an unfair advantage now that skill is down to aim and reaction time all these vet players are crying about it.

A. I'd hardly classify my statement as "freaking out".
B. All you have to do is look at the title of the thread to see you're not even trying to be constructive. You're just blowing it our of proportion like everyone else.

obviously the person who attacked him first wasnt a scrub if he got him down to 50 armor just sayin

okay then their not good, your ethire better than the other person or your not, like you said. Now like im saying, it doesent matter if your better or worse, your strafe speed is reduced to the point the aimbot has no difficulty gunning you down, as long as you have bullets in your clip your getting kills, and are prolly getting killed too because their shooting back. Theres no skill in dust now because were all using aimbots and the ppl with skill are being punished for it

you can tell from their jerky movements and full auto auto spray from the moment they see you that they aren't composed.. last week this kinda person would go through their entire ar clip, throw all their grenades while leaping and if still alive would switch to sidearm and spray that too. Now these people drop all your shields like nothing! There's no skill in that and it leaves you vulnerable to nearby aim assist spray

you can tell from their jerky movements and full auto auto spray from the moment they see you that they aren't composed.. last week this kinda person would go through their entire ar clip, throw all their grenades while leaping and if still alive would switch to sidearm and spray that too. Now these people drop all your shields like nothing! There's no skill in that and it leaves you vulnerable to nearby aim assist spray

He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor

reaction time its just like cod its easy but its all down to 2 things reaction time and aim if you see the other guy scrubs as people like to say you should have a better fit than him meaning more armor shield or speed and damage and that should be what helps you win if you cant beat someone when you have the sp advantage and cry because you lose too a scrub then who's really the scrub. Why is aim assist making you worse you should be a more effiecient killing machine and if your evenly matched its pure skill. Im having a hard time understanding this if your a vet you have better gear than noobs just because they can aim better shouldnt mean they can stomp all over you, you have the sp advantage

lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP.

LOL yet and still my post even answers your rebuttal without me having to say a word.

What will you do?

Will you cry and moan?

Or will you adapt and overcome?

HTFU...do some push ups...get tackled by MLB...do something to quit all ya crying...

If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought.

lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it.


And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before.

Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more.
And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd.

Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill.

Why dont you actually debate instead of saying deal with it? Your wrong and youknow it

You just made an extreme comparison saying that I need to use my brain more. Please don't be a hypocrite.

And I used to play CoD, but I stopped for DUST. I can make the comparison.

That makes no sense at all if you were good without it you should be better with it. The only difference was before if you had that duvolle tac ar your gonna shred people you had more range more damage you got soft because you could mow people down now everyone can aim and your true skills are starting to show your only advantage was your damage and extra shield and armor your sucked before and you suck now just saying in general this is not solely directed at you

i dont understand what is so funny about have millions of sp over the enemy and hardly being better than them due to an aim assist

Yea and that makes you qualified expert. Entertain me, how is it like COD? Seriously, enlighten me.

Yea and that makes you qualified expert. Entertain me, how is it like COD? Seriously, enlighten me.

Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill.

Aim Assist cannot replace skill. I've played the game without aim assist ever since beta. I've tried playing with aim assist on tonight to see what all the fuss is about. Honestly, this "Aimbot" dilemma is exactly what I thought it was when I first read about it, BS. Nothing even remotely close to what is being described in these QQ threads I have found to be true. hence I've turned my Aim assist back off since I'm used to playing Dust without it. Aim Assist is there to do and works exactly as it says, assist. Not Kill.

Those that are truly better than me will kill me, Those that aren't will die, regardless if they have aim assist on or not.

If you think otherwise than sorry, you aren't as skilled as you thought, Time to HTFU.

Im just annoyed that before i would excel with the SMG's because i knew how and WHEN to use the sight,and when to spray.

As it is now i really never need to aim.All bullets will hit and i can move faster.

Its really a shame...I dont feel very ''skilled'' using SMGs now....

My K-D ratio WILL go up,and im not happy about it because i know that its not me getting better....
Too weird?

Aim Assist cannot replace skill. I've played the game without aim assist ever since beta. I've tried playing with aim assist on tonight to see what all the fuss is about. Honestly, this "Aimbot" dilemma is exactly what I thought it was when I first read about it, BS. Nothing even remotely close to what is being described in these QQ threads I have found to be true. hence I've turned my Aim assist back off since I'm used to playing Dust without it. Aim Assist is there to do and works exactly as it says, assist. Not Kill.

Those that are truly better than me will kill me, Those that aren't will die, regardless if they have aim assist on or not.

If you think otherwise than sorry, you aren't as skilled as you thought, Time to HTFU.

I liked your post and all, but why do you always use bold?

Yep, hit detection is probably the real "culprit."

I do about the same now as I did pre-1.4 and I have aim-assist turned off. All the QQ threads are people just realizing they aren't as good as they originally thought. Sorry, better stock up on tissues.

You know, what do you think CCP wants?

2 new guys who like the aiming, or 1 vet?

If you don't like the fact that sensitivity slows when on target (Which BTW, is all it does), then tough luck. New guys will like it, and that's all any game Dev gives a a **** about. Keep old farts around who don't need to spend money on our game, or a bunch over new guys that do want to spend money on the game.

Vets are a secondary thing to cater too, new guys are always first.

And they like it.

I guess you don't get it

IF we could do better before, why are we all put on the same playing field?

Now, aim assist and hit detection are screwing up all the vets. Is it fair that noobs are using aim assist as a crutch so that they can win most gunfights?

In my recent experience, it also pulls your aim into the enemy.

Did you ever considered new player experience on this game?
Before 1.4 came out you barely could do anything cause every 1 else has better guns, better suits, better equipment etc. and on top of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets. Lets be honest most people who claim themself as "vets" are mad cause strafing doesnt work as good anymore.
You need faster reaction time and get your gun up quicker then the enemy. If you fail to do that then you obviously die.
"Vets" claim that the game got worse, i say the new player experience got much better cause the n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd.

Literally =/= Figuratively



Oh, and

Kyou kyou

By the OP's ideas that a 22million SP player should always defeat the 4 million SP players, the player base would likely not grow if new players can't have fun due to being able to compete against everyone. Players that destroyed clones easily before 1.4's aim assist may now be feeling the negative defeated attitude of the players they once easily defeated. When the lesser SP and accurate players were discontented at the imbalance between them and the higher SP and more accurate players, the higher SP players told them to they just sucked and stop their QQn. Now that aim assist may have increased the deaths of higher SP players, they're complaining that the game is unfair to them and now they're QQn.

Oh the irony .

Punctuation works too.


It's not about the fact that Vets should be better with it, it's about the fact that it does not reward them for being good because now all the noobs play just as good as the vets.

I dont consider myself an OP pro vet player. Yet i dont like the fact i dont need to aim to get kills.NOR get killed.

Speak for yourself Maple...
Who exactly made you class rep anyway?

Asks how does it compare to COD?

Responder says aim assist

Sad, I thought all his years playing COD would give him a wealth of information to create a detailed post

All I got was aim assist

LOL!!!

Calm down...

He's Maple...

Question still stands....
I don't remember any election where the "Vets" made him speaker
for all...
Oh that's right! There wasn't one...

lol

Aim assist is a problem but melee glitch is fine right Maple?

Another bitter vet unhappy that he can't simply out SP people anymore. If you want to say you have more skill, out maneuver them and flank enemies for kills. No, you can no longer dance around out of cover for a minute racking up kills. Good riddens with that horrid style of play.

Adapt or die, right?

lol

Aim assist is a problem but melee glitch is fine right Maple?

Question still stands....
I don't remember any election where the "Vets" made him speaker
for all...
Oh that's right! There wasn't one...

Still, Say no to Noobism?

I dont need to be elected Vet of 1.4 to say aimbot has removed the skill requirement out of dust. The tactica is still there, but now you dont need to be any special sort of foot solider to do well. You certainly used to

meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch.

So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol?

As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now.

You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!"

meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch.

So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol?

As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now.

You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!"

"skill"??? skill hasn't been in DUST A LONG TIME NOW! lol... where have you been?! Nades, MD's, Melee glitch, LAV roadkills, FG Roof camping... skill? hahahahahah

Good one Maple.

Care to show me were i openly and fully supported the melee glitch? putting words into my mouth, lance. i do not approve of glitching in competitive play but i stay in the corp because my freinds are there. Also, this is not battlefield, 2 very different games

Silence means content. If you didn't speak up against it, you were for it. If one of my friends did it, i would openly call him out on it. Know why? Cuz friends shouldn't get butthurt about the truth. Yet you didn't speak up about it when it mattered. How about speaking up about it when he did it during the tourney? No? Of course not, cuz it helped you win.

You're a hypocrite crying about AA. This is something I'm not supporting on this forum. Something to help players you people crying over????? This isn't a MD buff, or a Caldari buff, this is something to help people aim in a game where aiming was pure crap!

You're right this isn't BF3, cuz BF3 >>>>>>>> DUST. If only DUST felt half as good as BF3 does, we'll have allot more content now. Instead we're stuck with updates trying to make the game feel somewhat decent. And now it's taken a step in that direction and people crying about it???? GG!!

Your making false accusations, friend. Radar and us told ari about the glitch use in the tourney, no we were not silent he did it anyway and he got an ear full after the battle and we were all very butthurt about him not cooperating. So no, i am not a hypocrite and your and asswhole for thinking so ill. Aiming was crap and it was a problem but now the problem is reversed in the opposite direction by making AA too efficent, ppl were getting 30+ kills with worse aiming and higher strafing speeds when the game took some talent and now you have no way to evade ppls unrealistic accuracy. If not being able to do anything about your enemys weapons is a step in the right direction than myself and many others dont want anything to do with future dust. Its clear you dont ethire so who cares.

btw, ari rings for redstar every chance he gets for PC. cool with your alliance melee glitching? be silent or do something about it

lol an "ear full"... please. He still does it in every PC game. He's from RS, so he plays with them. You think I didn't know? lol... I'm calling him out now! I've been calling him out since it started, knowing fully well he's from RS.

You're a hypocrite bro. Plain and simple. The fact that your team kept picking him for PC games, and the fact you NEVER said anything against him in any threads created about it, proves it. So using AA is bad, but by all means, let's continue to pick and play mr melee glitcher in all our matches, and give him an "ear full" about it. lol... where was your thread complaining about the melee glitch maple?

Now new players can actually kill people, and it's a big problem..OMG GUYS, THE SKILLED PLAYERS OF DUST ARE TIRED OF AA!!! IT ALLOWS NOOBS THE ABILITY TO AIM. smh.

This community is growing more and more pathetic. This is one 'issue' i have no problem with. God forbid people can aim and kill other people now. Yea i can see the problem there.

Even thought, in general, I agree with the OP about aim assist, it has no place in a competitive FPS; in the part where he talks about the game encouraging 'skilled, intelligent players who have the most SP', he lost me. Since when is grinding to get the 'I win -protosuit- button' intelligent?

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Tell me this: How are you even differentiating between aim assist and better hitboxes? And don't say "cause noobs are killing me" because we are used to a glitches system and have been having to compensate up until now, noobs are going to be better now that they are not fighting against broken mechanics to be half decent.
I only used the assist for two games last night and the difference was hardly noticeable.

If there were more ppl doing the melee glitch than yeah i would make a thread about it but untill then he is litterally the only person in the game who does it you think making a fourm post about my corp mate is a good idea? Yep ill do that right now prolly get kicked from corp. Right on lance, good idea. i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours?

New players could kill ppl before if they learned the gungame! ive killed proto suits in standard assualt and ar suilts before, you have, most ppl in our corps have we all have! Now they dont have to work towards that. Infact, no one has to work towards anything again as long as dust is so easy mode with AA

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Tell me this: How are you even differentiating between aim assist and better hitboxes? And don't say "cause noobs are killing me" because we are used to a glitches system and have been having to compensate up until now, noobs are going to be better now that they are not fighting against broken mechanics to be half decent.
I only used the assist for two games last night but the difference was hardly noticeable.

Edit: and I response to your statement about "tactics and cover": the one thing I noticed about the aim assist was that above all it made strafing very stupid, when people say it makes you use tactics and cover they mean that strafing in circles while you unload into someone is just not possible anymore. It is a bs move that would not stand a chance on any battleground but was necessary in this game because of wobbly hitboxes and the large amount of shield+armour.
Honestly, strafing is a skill I am happy to trade back to using tactical cover points.

lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out.

You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself?

You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya!

I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument.

Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months.

''Did you ever considered new player experience on this game? ''

When i was a new player i got steamrolled, anad i liked it bacuse i knew some day i would be able to do the same.Be that guy that can go 35-2 in a game. I toughened it up and now im here. Im NOT a ''vet'' , nor ''pro'' ,but the fact the game was hard as shiat was the real incentive on playing it.

''....op of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets.''
Thanks to the removal of this scouts are night unusable now.

''e n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd''
Noobs are gun fodder ALWAYS.You can have 15+ mill and still be a noob. Or have 1 mil and be a good player. The only difference is that the good player went 8-2 in a game and now he goes 16-4....And later on he will go 30-6...
When i started playing DUST i thought The MLT AR was a powerful weapon i was entitled since i started playing as an ''enforcer'' and when i discovered that the Assault rifle had 60 bullets i was shocked and i would do really good. Point is. The problem of with aim assists in not ''vets'' getting killed, but the fact aim assist is a stealthy nerf to Heavies and Scouts. Here is why:

MED FRAMES: Have decent/High speed and decent/high armor. Good shield regen and damage output. They are balanced,and there by they have the advantage. The first one to shoot wins. BUT no only this is brain-dead ,because even if the most skilled player wins he will still be heavily damaged and the next scrub will take you down, doesnt matter your skill,he wont miss and even if you dont either he has the HP advantage.

Light Frames: WHATS the point of being speedy if bullets literally follow you? Plus you cant even whithstand a small AR burst.

Heavies: Yup,they have high EHP but the lack of mobility is now even worse.Just by peeking out from behind a wall i would get 700 damage from a lot of reds spamming in my general direction,while before 1.4, i would only get 100.
100 to 700 is a BIG difference....

CCP you made a mistake here. We love you and there by i'll tell you this:

HIT DETECTION fix =/= Uber Aim Assist

lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out.

You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself?

You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya!

I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument.

Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months.

You seem quite ignorant so i take it that you are from team players which would match your corperation name.
I kinda envy your patience and progressing with gear to see the bright light at the end of a long and dark tunnel but most players dont have that. And fact is nobody likes it to get stomped on over and over only to be competetive after like 3 months. CCP made a smart move and you should not be aible to win a 2vs1 fight head on. Thats just stupid thinking and not helpfull for developing this game. Good that CCP doesnt listen to the "vets" otherwise we would go back to E3 and sit in tanks on top of buildings shoting the spawnpoint in the redline.

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i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours?
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Dunno how you say im happy when a glitch works in my favor when i said i dont approve of it?
and you made some threads about red star using Ari? link some threads up here, lets see them! Hypocrite! Good for you lance. Enjoy our dieing game
Edit yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP

Continue to grasp at straws to try and make an argument. Fact is you liked when the glitch was in your favor, but now something is in everyone's favor it's bad for the game

Not everyone's.
[looks at scout suit]

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

As a Tanker I must say.....where's our "Aimbot"??? Oh....I forgot, we just get Nerfed. We've had to deal with Auto-Aim Magnetic/Magic Bullets forever.... Those "Magic Bullets" only ever get Buffed. Blaster Turrets now have Shotty Levels of bad Hit Detection..... Everytime we die.....we die Twice. Every Map has been made CoDboi Friendly with Anti-Tank Condoms.... Why can't we have "Aimbot"??? I'd love nothing more than to wave my Turret like a friggin' Wii-Mote & get Headshots on the CoDbois.

I went "Ground Game" all day today & I noticed I no longer could strafe & hop to avoid incoming fire. Before I had to finely adjust the Reticle in order to land shots on the move. Now.....all I have to do is slightly flick either Stick in the general direction of the Enemy to stay on target. Even ADS Tracking feels like a No-Brainer....... And to those ignoramus who claim "BF3 has worse AA & noone complained".....you are just as mentally defunct as you present yourself.....maybe even more. The "Aimbot" was an issue that was both complained about, Video Recorded, and has since been toned down significantly, although still present.

What we have now are CoD Levels of AA.....& that's why all the CoDbois are rejoicing & defending since they went from barely grazing the MCC to frequent Headshots with little effort. All we need now is Prone so we can 180 Dropshot

yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game

As a Tanker I must say.....where's our "Aimbot"??? Oh....I forgot, we just get Nerfed. We've had to deal with Auto-Aim Magnetic/Magic Bullets forever.... Those "Magic Bullets" only ever get Buffed. Blaster Turrets now have Shotty Levels of bad Hit Detection..... Everytime we die.....we die Twice. Every Map has been made CoDboi Friendly with Anti-Tank Condoms.... Why can't we have "Aimbot"??? I'd love nothing more than to wave my Turret like a friggin' Wii-Mote & get Headshots on the CoDbois.

I went "Ground Game" all day today & I noticed I no longer could strafe & hop to avoid incoming fire. Before I had to finely adjust the Reticle in order to land shots on the move. Now.....all I have to do is slightly flick either Stick in the general direction of the Enemy to stay on target. Even ADS Tracking feels like a No-Brainer....... And to those ignoramus who claim "BF3 has worse AA & noone complained".....you are just as mentally defunct as you present yourself.....maybe even more. The "Aimbot" was an issue that was both complained about, Video Recorded, and has since been toned down significantly, although still present.

What we have now are CoD Levels of AA.....& that's why all the CoDbois are rejoicing & defending since they went from barely grazing the MCC to frequent Headshots with little effort. All we need now is Prone so we can 180 Dropshot

RS can use him if they want, i still call him out. RS didn't use him in the tourney though did they?

RS didn't lie about him not doing it during the tourney did they?

Continue to grasp at straws to try and make an argument. Fact is you liked when the glitch was in your favor, but now something is in everyone's favor it's bad for the game...lol.

Stay classy.

so let me get this straight. i say i dont approve so you think i like that we had him glitching. Okay makes sence, your allowing redstar to use them so you like that redstar is melee glitching. All that makes no sence lance stop being dumb. Youve been making stuff up sence you started posting on this thread no we dident try to hide up that we we used melee glitch and we told him not to before the game started? Not sure if your trying to troll or send a message through that winky face but your crying because mavado admitted to angel that we dident need to melee glitch to beat you guys, we wrecked you all three games. derp. i can care less about the outcome of the games, you obviously cant. "were winning PC but their cheating with melee glitchers but its okay for us to use them too". If your gona cry that aris spanking your butt go tell redstar, theyl tell you all about it

I have to respectfully agree with Lance. Now you say you don't approve of it Exmaple? Yet he continues to carry you in every game. Face it AE would not be half as relevant as they are if you didn't have Ari.

FUNFACT: Ari didn't start melee glitching till he joined AE. I guess when he was apart of a group with good players he didn't have to depend on a glitch to keep his team relevant.

Stop trying to lie to the community with your "Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game" quote. Nobody who knows the truth believes you not even a little bit. If you truly wanted this game challenging you wouldn't continue to remain in a corp that uses methods "you don't approve of"(I think you're full of it)

You wanna see TP fall huh? Bet you regretting that. I told those numskulls not to even offer a proposition to you weaklings. I'd much rather keep destroying you guys no matter where you flee to.

so let me get this straight. i say i dont approve so you think i like that we had him glitching. Okay makes sence, your allowing redstar to use them so you like that redstar is melee glitching. All that makes no sence lance stop being dumb. Youve been making stuff up sence you started posting on this thread no we dident try to hide up that we we used melee glitch and we told him not to before the game started? Not sure if your trying to troll or send a message through that winky face but your crying because mavado admitted to angel that we dident need to melee glitch to beat you guys, we wrecked you all three games. derp. i can care less about the outcome of the games, you obviously cant. "were winning PC but their cheating with melee glitchers but its okay for us to use them too". If your gona cry that aris spanking your butt go tell redstar, theyl tell you all about it

I'd keep beating around the bush if I was getting called out too...

Lol this thread about aimbots turned into ari melee glitching, nice derailment. All my freinds are in this corp, i dont care if we suck or were good enough to compete with the best of them, doesent matter to me im only here to be with freinds. The rest of AE doesent care if we suck or not ethire, were just in it for the ride. And no i dont wanna see TP fall, like them i like "the good fights" why would i want them to stop? please do send them to destroy us if they do gg!! Im not here for the drama of things, im here to have fun and put in my 2 cents to make the game better untill i move onto something else. You like the soap apra aspect of dust cool, gosip how i support melee glitches cuz im part of AE. dont care

yea maple, 1 guy melee'ing 3-4 people in a row has nothing to do with winning a game. lol...

go ahead and keep supporting your "winning ways" bro. Fact still remains he does it in every game and 90% of the time he top scores... which is the sad part. A guy that glitches out scores your team hahaha

So get back to your OP, and continue coming across as a hypocrite. So long as he plays in AE and continues to melee people, he's proving you're full of it cuz you continue to support it

The fact that you guys cheat just lost credibility to whine about anything is all I'm saying. You have no right to say what needs to be fixed or what's legit or broken with your methods, FACT.

Is that why you guys fled and screwed Hellstorm over For fun

The fact that you guys cheat just lost credibility to whine about anything is all I'm saying. You have no right to say what needs to be fixed or what's legit or broken with your methods, FACT.

Your calling me a hypocrite when your okay with ARI helping redstar. In fact, you tell me to make a post about him when you wont make one about redstar using him. I say i dont like the melee glitch, that im here for freinds so you say i like it cuz it makes us win. You see how i dont like it ethire and can care less if we loose? You see that right? Said it already, not sure what your getting at, dont think it can be any more black and white than that. Your so bad at trolling lance, the butthurt is amazing. Never seen you cry so much

lol i dont do any glitching, i simply play the game. Dont listen to me if you want i can care less, if one person in more corp does something wrong i have to be accountable too right? yep. Ethire way you need aimbot to kill me

Your opinions and credibility is lower than dirt at this point. Nobody is trolling you, we are telling the truth. It would be like Sammy Sosa or Arod giving a lecture on why using Steroids is bad. Would be meaningless coming from them.

Is RS here trying to complain about AA? Did RS melee glitch us in the tourney?

If a RS guy was the OP, I'll give him the same treatment! Nothing personal, just pointing out you're a hypocrite, just like if a RS member had a post like yours. Thing is, a RS member didn't post this OP did they?

No, you did. So how could any argument involve RS when neither of us here are in RS?

I'm butthurt over what? Seems to me you're the one flinching over being called out. I've never cheated to win, nor has SyNergy. I can hold my head up high. You? lol... cheating to win. You must be so proud

But hey, AA is the problem, mang! Fight the power! Fight noobism! But stay quiet and support your teammate and friend melee glitching people. It's all good.

You guys were cool in HS. Now? lol... no respect for any of you.

lol i dont do any glitching, i simply play the game. Dont listen to me if you want i can care less, if one person in more corp does something wrong i have to be accountable too right? yep. Ethire way you need aimbot to kill me

so you see everything in that box up there and im the hypocrite? lol okay lance, thats some pretty constructive logic, agreeing that melee glitching is wrong makes me a bad d00d, wish i was as righteous as you, the dust Marshal of all that is right. Your just as "bad" as me cuz your not on red stars ass about ari but your sure on mine for being in the same corp! Stay quiet and support your ally corpmates and freinds melee glitching people. Its all good. Already sounding just like you lance, your teary off topic delima of the Dust Genivious Convention is rubbing off on me. Turning me into a baby like you. My my first words will be "ima hypocrite" too

Am I missing something here? You are calling Lance a hypocrite. He is NOT in Redstar where they allegedly cheat. There is plenty of videos and evidence of Ari cheating in Tourny match against SyN as well as against other people. Hell a CPM saw it for himself. I would doubt Lance has any say what goes on in a corp outside of his own. Unless SyN is using Melee glitch, which I know for a fact they aren't he has every right to call you out.

It is YOU who doesn't have the right to speak your opinion on the integrity of this game. It is YOU that is the hypocrite being in a corp that actually does do the melee glitch and you allow it. Rather you "disapprove" or not you still allow it to happen so you support it.

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Hes a hypocrite because hes okay with redstar doing but not anyone else. Do you see any threads were EON bangs on redstar about using Ari? no they are A-okay with him doing, they call out my CEO and Ari all the time but they dont call out the Redstar CEO or directors. Its not okay for AE to use the glitch, but its okay for redstar. Thats the message that is being sent. You say he has no ability to change what redstar does, so what do you expect me to do? Kick him from the corp full of my freinds? Im not a director and hes my freind like he is red stars freind. You act like i have the power to stop him from doing what he does

I guess the main argument to this would be "if its so easy to kill then more SP and more skill should still have a huge advantage".

I'll agree that it needs to be turned down a bit, but like others have said its not game breaking.

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Am I missing something here? You are calling Lance a hypocrite. He is NOT in Redstar where they allegedly cheat. There is plenty of videos and evidence of Ari cheating in Tourny match against SyN as well as against other people. Hell a CPM saw it for himself. I would doubt Lance has any say what goes on in a corp outside of his own. Unless SyN is using Melee glitch, which I know for a fact they aren't he has every right to call you out.

It is YOU who doesn't have the right to speak your opinion on the integrity of this game. It is YOU that is the hypocrite being in a corp that actually does do the melee glitch and you allow it. Rather you "disapprove" or not you still allow it to happen so you support it.

This game has in the main always been about high ehp and high dps

That's why PC has very little suit differentiation

Blame CCP for not increasing stacking penalties or changing suit bonuses rather than implementing the recent armour buff .

If hit detection is working 12 bullets would kill proto.

The question is how much is hit detection working now and how broke it was in 1.3. In fact hit detection has been broken since replication. And we had never seen what CCPs plan for time to kill should be (we can't play on a LAN system).

Game breaking? No.... game changing?? Yes... The entire player field of DUST has changed their fits... regulators, rechargers and energizers are gone and its all about health points....

just wait it won't effect this Exmaple guy... hes been playing for a long time, will probably be rocking 900 health assault suits after the weekend.

Every new player with less health and using the same system where you generally aim in the area and hit your target... will just get smashed... and yes its been a day and a bit... but these vet's adapt and show the massive flaw with this already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIB2lV7TE8 <------ why I'm on the forum's today... and will make much better examples in a montage.. in the coming day of painstaking editing and rendering :D

yea maple, 1 guy melee'ing 3-4 people in a row has nothing to do with winning a game. lol...

go ahead and keep supporting your "winning ways" bro. Fact still remains he does it in every game and 90% of the time he top scores... which is the sad part. A guy that glitches out scores your team hahaha

So get back to your OP, and continue coming across as a hypocrite. So long as he plays in AE and continues to melee people, he's proving you're full of it cuz you continue to support it

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

You ALL defend it. Using friendship as a excuse to support his cheating is just plain WEAK I have grown bored of you thinking up what to type to appear as if you are legitimate and actually care about the integrity of this game. You have accused others of cheating with no proof what so ever. With all due respect YOU ARE LOW

You come off as this guy who just wants things to be balanced out while you are cheating. You try to take the focus off yourselves by throwing another corp into the flames with no proof at all. Now when all else you play the victim card. You play it off as if you guys have no choice but to leave a cheater in your corp because he is your friend. You have no say or no opinion at all, I have grown bored while you cook up lie after lie after lie. Have fun QQing about how this game needs to bring back legitimate skill and uphold integrity for the player's sake when anybody who knows the truth can clearly see you are a fraud.

Keep cheating in competitive matches so you can feel good about yourself laying to rest all your obvious insecurities to have to cheat on a game to get some sense of superiority.

RS can use him if they want, i still call him out. RS didn't use him in the tourney though did they?


Stay classy.

So wait i'm somewhat new to the "elite" landscape of planetary conquest.

But you say that one person runs up then hits you guys one at a time with melee.... like heee? get's in range and everything??... And because he 1-2 hit melee's you while you all have gun's... Aim assist this appalling works perfect? and all the OP points are moot.?

Did this Mike Tyson have some kind of super speed?

I guess I've walked into a troll land worse then youtube @@


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIB2lV7TE8 <--- aim assist helping me hit people :D

You ALL defend it. Using friendship as a excuse to support his cheating is just plain WEAK I have grown bored of you thinking up what to type to appear as if you are legitimate and actually care about the integrity of this game. You have accused others of cheating with no proof what so ever. With all due respect YOU ARE LOW

You come off as this guy who just wants things to be balanced out while you are cheating. You try to take the focus off yourselves by throwing another corp into the flames with no proof at all. Now when all else you play the victim card. You play it off as if you guys have no choice but to leave a cheater in your corp because he is your friend. You have no say or no opinion at all, I have grown bored while you cook up lie after lie after lie. Have fun QQing about how this game needs to bring back legitimate skill and uphold integrity for the player's sake when anybody who knows the truth can clearly see you are a fraud.

Keep cheating in competitive matches so you can feel good about yourself laying to rest all your obvious insecurities to have to cheat on a game to get some sense of superiority.

EDIT- IF you got kicked for standing up for what was right at least you could hold your head up high knowing you are legitimate, that would be better than lowering your head in shame while Ari carries you using cheats... Of course you can't see it cause you lack confidence in your own abilities.

no offense, since you have no idea how the exploit works and how it is used, you don't have a valid point to make. This is not a walk up and simple melee. It's an exploit that's been acknowledged by CCP as such.