DUST Search - people who are skilled at dust do not enjoy the game anymore

Bright Cloud wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Bright Cloud wrote:

Did you ever considered new player experience on this game?
Before 1.4 came out you barely could do anything cause every 1 else has better guns, better suits, better equipment etc. and on top of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets. Lets be honest most people who claim themself as "vets" are mad cause strafing doesnt work as good anymore.
You need faster reaction time and get your gun up quicker then the enemy. If you fail to do that then you obviously die.
"Vets" claim that the game got worse, i say the new player experience got much better cause the n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd.

''Did you ever considered new player experience on this game? ''

When i was a new player i got steamrolled, anad i liked it bacuse i knew some day i would be able to do the same.Be that guy that can go 35-2 in a game. I toughened it up and now im here. Im NOT a ''vet'' , nor ''pro'' ,but the fact the game was hard as shiat was the real incentive on playing it.

''....op of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets.''
Thanks to the removal of this scouts are night unusable now.

''e n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd''
Noobs are gun fodder ALWAYS.You can have 15+ mill and still be a noob. Or have 1 mil and be a good player. The only difference is that the good player went 8-2 in a game and now he goes 16-4....And later on he will go 30-6...
When i started playing DUST i thought The MLT AR was a powerful weapon i was entitled since i started playing as an ''enforcer'' and when i discovered that the Assault rifle had 60 bullets i was shocked and i would do really good. Point is. The problem of with aim assists in not ''vets'' getting killed, but the fact aim assist is a stealthy nerf to Heavies and Scouts. Here is why:

MED FRAMES: Have decent/High speed and decent/high armor. Good shield regen and damage output. They are balanced,and there by they have the advantage. The first one to shoot wins. BUT no only this is brain-dead ,because even if the most skilled player wins he will still be heavily damaged and the next scrub will take you down, doesnt matter your skill,he wont miss and even if you dont either he has the HP advantage.

Light Frames: WHATS the point of being speedy if bullets literally follow you? Plus you cant even whithstand a small AR burst.

Heavies: Yup,they have high EHP but the lack of mobility is now even worse.Just by peeking out from behind a wall i would get 700 damage from a lot of reds spamming in my general direction,while before 1.4, i would only get 100.
100 to 700 is a BIG difference....

CCP you made a mistake here. We love you and there by i'll tell you this:

HIT DETECTION fix =/= Uber Aim Assist

You seem quite ignorant so i take it that you are from team players which would match your corperation name.
I kinda envy your patience and progressing with gear to see the bright light at the end of a long and dark tunnel but most players dont have that. And fact is nobody likes it to get stomped on over and over only to be competetive after like 3 months. CCP made a smart move and you should not be aible to win a 2vs1 fight head on. Thats just stupid thinking and not helpfull for developing this game. Good that CCP doesnt listen to the "vets" otherwise we would go back to E3 and sit in tanks on top of buildings shoting the spawnpoint in the redline.


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Long Evity Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:21:00 - [1] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Did you ever considered new player experience on this game? Before 1.4 came out you barely could do anything cause every 1 else has better guns, better suits, better equipment etc. and on top of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets. Lets be honest most people who claim themself as "vets" are mad cause strafing doesnt work as good anymore. You need faster reaction time and get your gun up quicker then the enemy. If you fail to do that then you obviously die. "Vets" claim that the game got worse, i say the new player experience got much better cause the n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd. ''Did you ever considered new player experience on this game? '' When i was a new player i got steamrolled, anad i liked it bacuse i knew some day i would be able to do the same.Be that guy that can go 35-2 in a game. I toughened it up and now im here. Im NOT a ''vet'' , nor ''pro'' ,but the fact the game was hard as shiat was the real incentive on playing it. ''....op of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets.'' Thanks to the removal of this scouts are night unusable now. ''e n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd'' Noobs are gun fodder ALWAYS.You can have 15+ mill and still be a noob. Or have 1 mil and be a good player. The only difference is that the good player went 8-2 in a game and now he goes 16-4....And later on he will go 30-6... When i started playing DUST i thought The MLT AR was a powerful weapon i was entitled since i started playing as an ''enforcer'' and when i discovered that the Assault rifle had 60 bullets i was shocked and i would do really good. Point is. The problem of with aim assists in not ''vets'' getting killed, but the fact aim assist is a stealthy nerf to Heavies and Scouts. Here is why: MED FRAMES: Have decent/High speed and decent/high armor. Good shield regen and damage output. They are balanced,and there by they have the advantage. The first one to shoot wins. BUT no only this is brain-dead ,because even if the most skilled player wins he will still be heavily damaged and the next scrub will take you down, doesnt matter your skill,he wont miss and even if you dont either he has the HP advantage. Light Frames: WHATS the point of being speedy if bullets literally follow you? Plus you cant even whithstand a small AR burst. Heavies: Yup,they have high EHP but the lack of mobility is now even worse.Just by peeking out from behind a wall i would get 700 damage from a lot of reds spamming in my general direction,while before 1.4, i would only get 100. 100 to 700 is a BIG difference.... CCP you made a mistake here. We love you and there by i'll tell you this: HIT DETECTION fix =/= Uber Aim Assist You seem quite ignorant so i take it that you are from team players which would match your corperation name. I kinda envy your patience and progressing with gear to see the bright light at the end of a long and dark tunnel but most players dont have that. And fact is nobody likes it to get stomped on over and over only to be competetive after like 3 months. CCP made a smart move and you should not be aible to win a 2vs1 fight head on. Thats just stupid thinking and not helpfull for developing this game. Good that CCP doesnt listen to the "vets" otherwise we would go back to E3 and sit in tanks on top of buildings shoting the spawnpoint in the redline. Hi Dark Cloud! Nice alt, shame the name change didn't come with a brain transplant.
Long Evity Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2013.09.06 09:26:00 - [2] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Soo... Aim Assist is bad but Melee glitching is okay? You AE guys are confusing.