Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
109
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 08:28:00 -
[271] - Quote
I still enjoy the game |
Son Down
SamsClub
75
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 08:52:00 -
[272] - Quote
Chromosome 1.0.............last time the game actually had a chance. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
24
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 09:26:00 -
[273] - Quote
Exmaple Core wrote:Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.
some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.
Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.
Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Soo... Aim Assist is bad but Melee glitching is okay? You AE guys are confusing. |
Slaytanical
Chaotik Serenity
25
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 11:19:00 -
[274] - Quote
GRIM GEAR wrote:I have not noticed much of a difference between 1.3 and 1.4 my scout suits still get shredded to pieces when someone looks at me; Yes the hit detection has been fixed yes you should expect to die faster now, all the bullets that actually hit you now do damage instead of half of them not detecting like in 1.3. I think you need a reality check go get some harden up pills.
Indeed..... in the process of grinding my new ninja nova knifer wich is awesome.
but everyone crying about AA it's fine... it is time for the "Scout" patch CCP
If any class in DUST Needs some love right now it is them..... not all of the whiny ar users |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
20
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 11:47:00 -
[275] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome?
improvise adapt and overcome ...that is how you scout |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1738
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:09:00 -
[276] - Quote
Malcom Xo wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Malcom Xo wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored
Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.
Congrats Welcome to everybody else's world. We have to suffer a few losses from non factors who use a cheat that had AIM ASSIST (you know the very thing you are crying about in this thread) It's only ok when AE uses stuff to help them right You guys have been beating so many corps you have no business beating thanks to Ari runing around using a cheat to keep you guys relevant that does IN FACT have AIM ASSIST. I said it all last night when I was schooling you and I will say it again for the people who only read the latest post. You are a liar and a hypocrite Your opinion has no legitimacy on ANY topic about the integrity or legitimizing this game. It's only a problem when everybody else gets aim assist right Aim Assist is perfectly legit when Ari runs around and melee everybody in 1-2 hits right? You are such a worm Exmaple. im so sick of you reta.rds bringing up AE and the melee glitch. are you capable of discussing anything without talking about it? You have less credibility than AE at this point. person A - "Good morning bud!" person B - "Fuc.k you! Melee glitch!" person A - ".........." Keep trying, maybe someday they will let you in :) I know for somebody who is attempting to be accepted by good players you are obligated to defend all the big names for acceptance. Once you get to the top though you no longer care to suck up to anybody. I am not throwing melee glitch in every thread. I am proving a POINT The fact is you can't whine about something that you think is potentially hurting the game, you can't complain about trying to help the integrity of the game when you yourself is cheating in that exact same game. That's the only point I am.....excuse me MADE here. If you suck up long enough just maybe you will get somewhere I doubt it though.
why the hell would i want to be in AE? im already in STB and am one of its core members lol. i look at AE in disgust just as much as you but i can talk to someone without bringing up the melee glitch in a completely unrelated topic. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
266
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:19:00 -
[277] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:If the aim assist (not aim bot) removed the skill from Dust, as the thread title suggests, then wouldn't all the players perform equally as well as each other? Why is it then that even in a group of total blue berries I see people outperforming others? I'm sorry pub stompers, there's more to skill than just aiming.
"Children of Amarr, Beloved of God Do not fear the dark heavens The stars are a sign unto you To bring the Light to dark places And so many wondrous lights we carry Illuminating peoples and worlds Know that our empire is holy Set apart for an immortal destiny Stand true, Children of Amarr Let the rays of our enlightenment Shine ever before the Almighty." Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Haha Amarr Victor brother!
While I agree with you somewhat, for me as a scout I expect to engage solo as generally that's always been my role. Don't get me wrong, I love team work but that's for when I am assault logi and heavy suits. (At least the fighting teamwork aspect)
The biggest problem I find is back before 1.4, I could be scouting through an area and yes there would be occasional red dots that would spot me. Now this was never too much of a huge problem as I was able to escape and or prepare myself for a fight by getting into cover.
The problem now is those same red dots only have to blink at me and I am dead lol. 100m distance militia riflemen scope me out and kill me in a few hits. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
646
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:21:00 -
[278] - Quote
Superior SP still gives you an edge in fitting's and also in combat. However bare in mind there is a cap on how much of your SP you are making use of at one time...
And most of the vets used AR's which is a hitscan weapon, you hard aim and the bullets go to where the crosshair is with very little spread, regardless of your skill lvl into it. And also has next to zero bullet travel time. AR's have had this Aim Assist for patches and patches on end yet amazingly "no one" felt that AR's where a problem, now that the Aim assist is on all weapons it's out of order? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1697
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:21:00 -
[279] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:If the aim assist (not aim bot) removed the skill from Dust, as the thread title suggests, then wouldn't all the players perform equally as well as each other? Why is it then that even in a group of total blue berries I see people outperforming others? I'm sorry pub stompers, there's more to skill than just aiming.
"Children of Amarr, Beloved of God Do not fear the dark heavens The stars are a sign unto you To bring the Light to dark places And so many wondrous lights we carry Illuminating peoples and worlds Know that our empire is holy Set apart for an immortal destiny Stand true, Children of Amarr Let the rays of our enlightenment Shine ever before the Almighty." Empress Jamyl Sarum I Haha Amarr Victor brother! While I agree with you somewhat, for me as a scout I expect to engage solo as generally that's always been my role. Don't get me wrong, I love team work but that's for when I am assault logi and heavy suits. (At least the fighting teamwork aspect) The biggest problem I find is back before 1.4, I could be scouting through an area and yes there would be occasional red dots that would spot me. Now this was never too much of a huge problem as I was able to escape and or prepare myself for a fight by getting into cover. The problem now is those same red dots only have to blink at me and I am dead lol. 100m distance militia riflemen scope me out and kill me in a few hits. That is a problem the AR has some ungodly range this build or ungodly accuracy at long range, even outranges my lasers on the occasion.
Perhaps one day when the Stealth Cloak become available you will simply walk up to these guys and slice em up. I would love to see that.
oh and....
AMARR VICTOR! For God, the Empress, and CCP WOLFMAN! |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
572
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:24:00 -
[280] - Quote
Stop complaining about the aim assist. Shoot at the head, problem solved. |
|
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
99
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:35:00 -
[281] - Quote
One of the rules in eve is this: "if its beneficial for new players then its even more beneficial for vets" I think some of the so called "vets" dont have the reaction time that is needed to be good on a FPS game. Thats why most of them did run the caldari logi with insane amount of HP and the ability to strafe. Both combined was resulting in a ahrd to hit and harder to kill player. Now that strafing is eliminated and armor grants much more HP then shields the so called "vets" are loosing their unfair advantage so they cry on the forum. Well welcome to new eden, on this universe CCP will take your "I WIN BUTTON" away at any random time. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3491
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:43:00 -
[282] - Quote
I've been in since Replication, but OH NO I PLAY EVE AND AM A ******** SCRUB WITH BAD IDEAS AND NO SKILL.
Regardless, reading of these changes and seeing their impact via all the streams I follow has made me no less desperate to get my hands on another PS3 so I can get back into Dust. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
265
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 12:53:00 -
[283] - Quote
Thank God I suck at this game. I'm having a blast now. So long leet vet snobs. |
DootDoot
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
7
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 16:33:00 -
[284] - Quote
Bright Cloud wrote:One of the rules in eve is this: "if its beneficial for new players then its even more beneficial for vets" I think some of the so called "vets" dont have the reaction time that is needed to be good on a FPS game. Thats why most of them did run the caldari logi with insane amount of HP and the ability to strafe. Both combined was resulting in a ahrd to hit and harder to kill player. Now that strafing is eliminated and armor grants much more HP then shields the so called "vets" are loosing their unfair advantage so they cry on the forum. Well welcome to new eden, on this universe CCP will take your "I WIN BUTTON" away at any random time.
This is just laughable... Your mad at so called vet's because they had more skill points and gear. And because a computer generated aim assist now helps you aim..... THEIR? I win button is gone?
This is NOT something that will benefit new players.... you think they had high health points before? they went for mobility then its all about high health points even shotgunners don't put speed mods on because its an utter waste... they are putting armor plates and its a shame.
Right now vet's are walking around each with more then 800-900 hp and a lot are already over the 1k mark... your about to see a game as the vet's are adapting where you will be 1/4 of their health with a lot less damage.
This has made it a game about stats and gear and has taken individual aiming skill out of the equation for people who couldn't aim in the first place. IE. Me |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
439
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 19:33:00 -
[285] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Even thought, in general, I agree with the OP about aim assist, it has no place in a competitive FPS; in the part where he talks about the game encouraging 'skilled, intelligent players who have the most SP', he lost me. Since when is grinding to get the 'I win -protosuit- button' intelligent? And semi auto noobtubes and contact nades, and grenades with huge blast radius have a place in competitive FPS? No, but DUST has them.
Noob tubes are a fad, they are not that effective. And in all honesty ppl use them because they are tired of having no choices in the game. You had to go AR or not play infantry at all. I've stopped using MD since it bacame a fad, it used to be my main. The problem is not the MD, it's the lac of options and a whole host of broken weapons cornering people into a painful choice of MD VS AR w/o other alternatives.
Grenades are ridiculous and a huge source of abuse for ppl who care to reach for that OP win button. |
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |