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Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1074	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:50:00 - [1] - Quote Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1074	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:53:00 - [2] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? how many times are you going to avoid the very fine points im making?
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1074	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:54:00 - [3] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: I am skilled at Dust and still enjoy it, because the aimbot is by far not as bad as many people think it is. it is extreemly crutched. so crutched, in fact, scouts can not even play the game. They just die when they flank around and get behind the enemy
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1074	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:56:00 - [4] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: very fine points 6/10 see what i mean? you try to troll cuz you cant put up a solid argument and i can
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1074	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:58:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Oh my god, people raging the **** out and threatening to quit forever the day after a patch has NEVER HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER GAME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. I mean, seriously, do you think this is what they want, or something? That something they've said they were going to keep an eye on after it released, and have already made posts in their "Known Issues" thread about looking into is now just going to be left like this to spite all of us? It's only one goddam day after the patch, people. They've already talked about having hotfixes in for standing issues before the end of this week, and aim assist will be one of those. Stop acting like 5-year olds. acting like 5 year olds? your the one freaking out, im giving constructive feedback of the competitive players of dust
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1083	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:01:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? maby being skilled at dust is being able to read. I say: Exmaple Core wrote: some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. and you say we are reckless and belive we have a god aimming playstyle. Nice pickup
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1083	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:04:00 - [7] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: "our milliions of sp" lol i dont understand what is so funny about have millions of sp over the enemy and hardly being better than them due to an aim assist
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1083	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:05:00 - [8] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: I am a vet of almost 2 years with 12 million sp, don't speak for me the higher the RoF the more the sticky glue aiming helps, so the sticky should be lowered from 50% to 30% on lasers and HMG/ARs, while staying the same for pistols and other small weapons. It's not game breaking... then speak for yourself. Go on
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1085	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:10:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: very fine points 6/10 see what i mean? you try to troll cuz you cant put up a solid argument and i can I see no solid argument. I see a bunch of feels. Each one of your opinions can be countered with the opinions of someone else, and neither of you would be wrong. EDIT: I should add that I gave 6/10 because while I will agree with you that the aim assist is a bit much, I don't think it's nearly as game-breaking as you are making it out to be, A more fair edit. It is indeed game breaking, it broke all low HP suits and the entire scout class. No matter how smart you play scouts get wrecked by anyone with active aim assist. and made all weapons in dust almost twice as lethal. It is now becoming impractical to run proto gear because you can not survive in it long enough to make a profit
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1085	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:12:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Oh my god, people raging the **** out and threatening to quit forever the day after a patch has NEVER HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER GAME IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. I mean, seriously, do you think this is what they want, or something? That something they've said they were going to keep an eye on after it released, and have already made posts in their "Known Issues" thread about looking into is now just going to be left like this to spite all of us? It's only one goddam day after the patch, people. They've already talked about having hotfixes in for standing issues before the end of this week, and aim assist will be one of those. Stop acting like 5-year olds. acting like 5 year olds? your the one freaking out, im giving constructive feedback of the competitive players of dust A. I'd hardly classify my statement as "freaking out". B. All you have to do is look at the title of the thread to see you're not even trying to be constructive. You're just blowing it our of proportion like everyone else. im throiwing out a premptive warning that this aim assist is too much, alot of players are going to be leaving because of this. Not like now or tomarrow, but this changed the game. This is no longer a skill game, this is call of duty. Its not dust anymore

Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1085	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:16:00 - [11] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Quick question for ya. How do you know your opponent is noob? With this new MM, shouldn't your opponents be similar skill, supposedly? Is it because they are using inferior gear? Maybe they have Prof 5 and just using cheaper gear? Maybe it's just the improved hit detection that is outclassing you? I notice that I melt very quickly now. I'm sure the aim-assist plays a role, but since I'm not doing the shooting at myself, I can't be sure of my opponents aiming skill. Personally, I think it is a perfect storm. CCP slowed the strafe speed, improved hit detection, and "fixed" the aim-assist. All these things combined make auto weapons extremely efficient. They probably could of done with fixing the hit detection and strafe speed, and left the aim-assist for another patch. If you want a very direct answer, you can mail them after the game and ask them how much SP they have. Otherwise, you can tell how skilled they are by the gear they have, their tactics (flanking, retreating, strafing, equipment use, using cover, ect) and how they work with others as you play them through out the game. If someone is doing very poor in all of those, and you are making very efficient use of all of these but their still killing you there is a promblem
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1092	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:22:00 - [12] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 wrote: skill = dead aimbot = win If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ? yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1092	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:28:00 - [13] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Ok EXAMPLE. First underline is almost every FPS game. Second underline had nothing to do with FPS mechanics. larger HP is a MMO thing. Third underline. longer game time and better gear is definite MMO thing. NOT FPS. So is a noob not being able to compete with VETS. Name me a FPS where LV 22 can't blow away a VET 3 times over. Why? cause roll over exp from other FPS games. Skills learned from other FPS games evens the odds. Your reasons have some validity, if dust was a genuine MMO. But it's really a FPS lobby. why does aim assists exists? player retention. Aim assists... wait for it. Assists all players. vet and noob alike. you should be getting more kills. even if your dying a bit more. tbh theres only a handful of FPSs were you have RPG stats to stack your EHP as you drill each other with crazy accuracy. Dust has its RPG stats in everything, numbers are the name of the game in New Eden and gungame used to be the same in Dust. There were noobs that could kill the better players with the roll over experience of other games like you said and that was okay! It was okay because they used tactics and and their own skill to kill them and they did it proper. Now you dont need any skill or thinking. You aim and hit with all your shots
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1100	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:40:00 - [14] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 wrote: skill = dead aimbot = win If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ? yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful sure you can you're either better than the other person or you're not I've stated this before all these proto guys pub stomping low level players you all sucked and the only thing seperating you from them was sp now that those scrubs youve been stomping have aim assists your extra armor ammo and damage are crap. You were crappy players with an unfair advantage now that skill is down to aim and reaction time all these vet players are crying about it. okay then their not good, your ethire better than the other person or your not, like you said. Now like im saying, it doesent matter if your better or worse, your strafe speed is reduced to the point the aimbot has no difficulty gunning you down, as long as you have bullets in your clip your getting kills, and are prolly getting killed too because their shooting back. Theres no skill in dust now because were all using aimbots and the ppl with skill are being punished for it
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1100	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:47:00 - [15] - Quote Dengru wrote: Ld Collins wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor obviously the person who attacked him first wasnt a scrub if he got him down to 50 armor just sayin you can tell from their jerky movements and full auto auto spray from the moment they see you that they aren't composed.. last week this kinda person would go through their entire ar clip, throw all their grenades while leaping and if still alive would switch to sidearm and spray that too. Now these people drop all your shields like nothing! There's no skill in that and it leaves you vulnerable to nearby aim assist spray insainely true. RIght here, well said
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1101	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:55:00 - [16] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Ld Collins wrote: [ If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ? yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful sure you can you're either better than the other person or you're not I've stated this before all these proto guys pub stomping low level players you all sucked and the only thing seperating you from them was sp now that those scrubs youve been stomping have aim assists your extra armor ammo and damage are crap. You were crappy players with an unfair advantage now that skill is down to aim and reaction time all these vet players are crying about it. okay then their not good, your ethire better than the other person or your not, like you said. Now like im saying, it doesent matter if your better or worse, your strafe speed is reduced to the point the aimbot has no difficulty gunning you down, as long as you have bullets in your clip your getting kills, and are prolly getting killed too because their shooting back. Theres no skill in dust now because were all using aimbots and the ppl with skill are being punished for it reaction time its just like cod its easy but its all down to 2 things reaction time and aim if you see the other guy scrubs as people like to say you should have a better fit than him meaning more armor shield or speed and damage and that should be what helps you win if you cant beat someone when you have the sp advantage and cry because you lose too a scrub then who's really the scrub. Why is aim assist making you worse you should be a more effiecient killing machine and if your evenly matched its pure skill. Im having a hard time understanding this if your a vet you have better gear than noobs just because they can aim better shouldnt mean they can stomp all over you, you have the sp advantage no, we vets have better gear like you said, and we aim better than them. We aimed better sence the start of dust! for the past years, pending on when we vets started playing. We crushed noobs and scubs alike when you needed to manually aim at ppl to shoot them, we have better aim. Now aim is not valued as anyone can "aim" an aimbot. In this case, like we agree on, all you need is more EHP to win and then you die on your second gunfight. no one wants to play like this, there is no skill in this, putting armor plates and extenders on your suit is not skillworthy when this game used to require footwork and hand/eye coordination as you struggled to ADS and strafe at the same time. Therewas no auto aim lock that ensured your rounds hit, you needed to practice to become skilled. not anymore. Thats the promblem, how can you comfortably say someone is better when no one is using skill anymore, their just aimbots?
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1101	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor LOL yet and still my post even answers your rebuttal without me having to say a word. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? HTFU...do some push ups...get tackled by MLB...do something to quit all ya crying... Why dont you actually debate instead of saying deal with it? Your wrong and youknow it
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1120	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:15:00 - [18] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol Aim assist is a problem but melee glitch is fine right Maple? why are you loling? i dont approve of the melee glitch ethire
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1126	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:18:00 - [19] - Quote Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: Speak for yourself Maple... Who exactly made you class rep anyway? He's Maple... Question still stands.... I don't remember any election where the "Vets" made him speaker for all... Oh that's right! There wasn't one... I dont need to be elected Vet of 1.4 to say aimbot has removed the skill requirement out of dust. The tactica is still there, but now you dont need to be any special sort of foot solider to do well. You certainly used to
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1126	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:23:00 - [20] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol Aim assist is a problem but melee glitch is fine right Maple? Still, Say no to Noobism? meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch. So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol? As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now. You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!" Care to show me were i openly and fully supported the melee glitch? putting words into my mouth, lance. i do not approve of glitching in competitive play but i stay in the corp because my freinds are there. Ari himself is one of my freinds too, hes a cool guy. Also, this is not battlefield, 2 very different games

Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1126	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:25:00 - [21] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: Speak for yourself Maple... Who exactly made you class rep anyway? He's Maple... Question still stands.... I don't remember any election where the "Vets" made him speaker for all... Oh that's right! There wasn't one... I dont need to be elected Vet of 1.4 to say aimbot has removed the skill requirement out of dust. The tactica is still there, but now you dont need to be any special sort of foot solider to do well. You certainly used to "skill"??? skill hasn't been in DUST A LONG TIME NOW! lol... where have you been?! Nades, MD's, Melee glitch, LAV roadkills, FG Roof camping... skill? hahahahahah Good one Maple. lolol true, havent had much skill play sence chrome. But now its all gone. Like, all of it. Theres nothing left thats challenging to do in dropsuits other than staying alive on the battlefield, killing ppl is certainly not a challenge anymore
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1128	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:42:00 - [22] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lol Aim assist is a problem but melee glitch is fine right Maple? Still, Say no to Noobism? meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch. So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol? As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now. You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!" Care to show me were i openly and fully supported the melee glitch? putting words into my mouth, lance. i do not approve of glitching in competitive play but i stay in the corp because my freinds are there. Also, this is not battlefield, 2 very different games Silence means content. If you didn't speak up against it, you were for it. If one of my friends did it, i would openly call him out on it. Know why? Cuz friends shouldn't get butthurt about the truth. Yet you didn't speak up about it when it mattered. How about speaking up about it when he did it during the tourney? No? Of course not, cuz it helped you win. You're a hypocrite crying about AA. This is something I'm not supporting on this forum. Something to help players you people crying over????? This isn't a MD buff, or a Caldari buff, this is something to help people aim in a game where aiming was pure crap! You're right this isn't BF3, cuz BF3 >>>>>>>> DUST. If only DUST felt half as good as BF3 does, we'll have allot more content now. Instead we're stuck with updates trying to make the game feel somewhat decent. And now it's taken a step in that direction and people crying about it???? GG!! Your making false accusations, friend. Radar and us told ari about the glitch use in the tourney, no we were not silent he did it anyway and he got an ear full after the battle and we were all very butthurt about him not cooperating. So no, i am not a hypocrite and your and asswhole for thinking so ill. Aiming was crap and it was a problem but now the problem is reversed in the opposite direction by making AA too efficent, ppl were getting 30+ kills with worse aiming and higher strafing speeds when the game took some talent and now you have no way to evade ppls unrealistic accuracy. If not being able to do anything about your enemys weapons is a step in the right direction than myself and many others dont want anything to do with future dust. Its clear you dont ethire so who cares. btw, ari rings for redstar every chance he gets for PC. cool with your alliance melee glitching? be silent or do something about it
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1131	Posted - 2013.09.05 04:59:00 - [23] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Your making false accusations, friend. Radar and us told ari about the glitch use in the tourney, no we were not silent he did it anyway and he got an ear full after the battle and we were all very butthurt about him not cooperating. So no, i am not a hypocrite and your and asswhole for thinking so ill. Aiming was crap and it was a problem but now the problem is reversed in the opposite direction by making AA too efficent, ppl were getting 30+ kills with worse aiming and higher strafing speeds when the game took some talent and now you have no way to evade ppls unrealistic accuracy. If not being able to do anything about your enemys weapons is a step in the right direction than myself and many others dont want anything to do with future dust. Its clear you dont ethire so who cares. btw, ari rings for redstar every chance he gets for PC. cool with your alliance melee glitching? be silent or do something about it lol an "ear full"... please. He still does it in every PC game. He's from RS, so he plays with them. You think I didn't know? lol... I'm calling him out now! I've been calling him out since it started, knowing fully well he's from RS. You're a hypocrite bro. Plain and simple. The fact that your team kept picking him for PC games, and the fact you NEVER said anything against him in any threads created about it, proves it. So using AA is bad, but by all means, let's continue to pick and play mr melee glitcher in all our matches, and give him an "ear full" about it. lol... where was your thread complaining about the melee glitch maple? Now new players can actually kill people, and it's a big problem..OMG GUYS, THE SKILLED PLAYERS OF DUST ARE TIRED OF AA!!! IT ALLOWS NOOBS THE ABILITY TO AIM. smh. This community is growing more and more pathetic. This is one 'issue' i have no problem with. God forbid people can aim and kill other people now. Yea i can see the problem there. If there were more ppl doing the melee glitch than yeah i would make a thread about it but untill then he is litterally the only person in the game who does it you think making a fourm post about my corp mate is a good idea? Yep ill do that right now prolly get kicked from corp. Right on lance, good idea. i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours? New players could kill ppl before if they learned the gungame! ive killed proto suits in standard assualt and ar suilts before, you have, most ppl in our corps have we all have! Now they dont have to work towards that. Infact, no one has to work towards anything again as long as dust is so easy mode with AA
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1131	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:06:00 - [24] - Quote Flux Raeder wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead. some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover" You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind. Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you. Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win??? Tell me this: How are you even differentiating between aim assist and better hitboxes? And don't say "cause noobs are killing me" because we are used to a glitches system and have been having to compensate up until now, noobs are going to be better now that they are not fighting against broken mechanics to be half decent. I only used the assist for two games last night and the difference was hardly noticeable. better hitboxes? i believe your getting at the improved hit detection? Theres no promblem with noobs getting better, we want ppl to get better at the game but we dont want everyone to have an aimbot so everyones on the same level all the time. Everyones hitting with absurd accuracy and it allows noobs to kill the best players without effort. Not a promblem if a noob killed a beast in 1.3, he earned the kill with his skill but there is no skill in aimbots
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1132	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:14:00 - [25] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: If there were more ppl doing the melee glitch than yeah i would make a thread about it but untill then he is litterally the only person in the game who does it you think making a fourm post about my corp mate is a good idea? Yep ill do that right now prolly get kicked from corp. Right on lance, good idea. i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours? New players could kill ppl before if they learned the gungame! ive killed proto suits in standard assualt and ar suilts before, you have, most ppl in our corps have we all have! Now they dont have to work towards that. Infact, no one has to work towards anything again as long as dust is so easy mode with AA lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out. You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself? You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya! I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument. Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months. [quote=Exmaple Core] i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours? [quote=Exmaple Core] Dunno how you say im happy when a glitch works in my favor when i said i dont approve of it? and you made some threads about red star using Ari? link some threads up here, lets see them! Hypocrite! Good for you lance. Enjoy our dieing game Edit yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1134	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:49:00 - [26] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: If there were more ppl doing the melee glitch than yeah i would make a thread about it but untill then he is litterally the only person in the game who does it you think making a fourm post about my corp mate is a good idea? Yep ill do that right now prolly get kicked from corp. Right on lance, good idea. i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours? New players could kill ppl before if they learned the gungame! ive killed proto suits in standard assualt and ar suilts before, you have, most ppl in our corps have we all have! Now they dont have to work towards that. Infact, no one has to work towards anything again as long as dust is so easy mode with AA lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out. You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself? You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya! I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument. Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months. Exmaple Core wrote: i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours? [quote=Exmaple Core] Dunno how you say im happy when a glitch works in my favor when i said i dont approve of it? and you made some threads about red star using Ari? link some threads up here, lets see them! Hypocrite! Good for you lance. Enjoy our dieing game Edit yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game RS can use him if they want, i still call him out. RS didn't use him in the tourney though did they? RS didn't lie about him not doing it during the tourney did they? Continue to grasp at straws to try and make an argument. Fact is you liked when the glitch was in your favor, but now something is in everyone's favor it's bad for the game...lol. Stay classy. so let me get this straight. i say i dont approve so you think i like that we had him glitching. Okay makes sence, your allowing redstar to use them so you like that redstar is melee glitching. All that makes no sence lance stop being dumb. Youve been making stuff up sence you started posting on this thread no we dident try to hide up that we we used melee glitch and we told him not to before the game started? Not sure if your trying to troll or send a message through that winky face but your crying because mavado admitted to angel that we dident need to melee glitch to beat you guys, we wrecked you all three games. derp. i can care less about the outcome of the games, you obviously cant. "were winning PC but their cheating with melee glitchers but its okay for us to use them too". If your gona cry that aris spanking your butt go tell redstar, theyl tell you all about it
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1134	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:56:00 - [27] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game I have to respectfully agree with Lance. Now you say you don't approve of it Exmaple? Yet he continues to carry you in every game. Face it AE would not be half as relevant as they are if you didn't have Ari. FUNFACT: Ari didn't start melee glitching till he joined AE. I guess when he was apart of a group with good players he didn't have to depend on a glitch to keep his team relevant. Stop trying to lie to the community with your "Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game" quote. Nobody who knows the truth believes you not even a little bit. If you truly wanted this game challenging you wouldn't continue to remain in a corp that uses methods "you don't approve of"(I think you're full of it) You wanna see TP fall huh? Bet you regretting that. I told those numskulls not to even offer a proposition to you weaklings. I'd much rather keep destroying you guys no matter where you flee to. Lol this thread about aimbots turned into ari melee glitching, nice derailment. All my freinds are in this corp, i dont care if we suck or were good enough to compete with the best of them, doesent matter to me im only here to be with freinds. The rest of AE doesent care if we suck or not ethire, were just in it for the ride. And no i dont wanna see TP fall, like them i like "the good fights" why would i want them to stop? please do send them to destroy us if they do gg!! Im not here for the drama of things, im here to have fun and put in my 2 cents to make the game better untill i move onto something else. You like the soap apra aspect of dust cool, gosip how i support melee glitches cuz im part of AE. dont care
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1134	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:58:00 - [28] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Malcom Xo wrote: I have to respectfully agree with Lance. Now you say you don't approve of it Exmaple? Yet he continues to carry you in every game. Face it AE would not be half as relevant as they are if you didn't have Ari. FUNFACT: Ari didn't start melee glitching till he joined AE. I guess when he was apart of a group with good players he didn't have to depend on a glitch to keep his team relevant. Stop trying to lie to the community with your "Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game" quote. Nobody who knows the truth believes you not even a little bit. If you truly wanted this game challenging you wouldn't continue to remain in a corp that uses methods "you don't approve of"(I think you're full of it) You wanna see TP fall huh? Bet you regretting that. I told those numskulls not to even offer a proposition to you weaklings. I'd much rather keep destroying you guys no matter where you flee to. so let me get this straight. i say i dont approve so you think i like that we had him glitching. Okay makes sence, your allowing redstar to use them so you like that redstar is melee glitching. All that makes no sence lance stop being dumb. Youve been making stuff up sence you started posting on this thread no we dident try to hide up that we we used melee glitch and we told him not to before the game started? Not sure if your trying to troll or send a message through that winky face but your crying because mavado admitted to angel that we dident need to melee glitch to beat you guys, we wrecked you all three games. derp. i can care less about the outcome of the games, you obviously cant. "were winning PC but their cheating with melee glitchers but its okay for us to use them too". If your gona cry that aris spanking your butt go tell redstar, theyl tell you all about it I'd keep beating around the bush if I was getting called out too... oops, that was meant for lance. I replied to this one just now
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1135	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:02:00 - [29] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: so let me get this straight. i say i dont approve so you think i like that we had him glitching. Okay makes sence, your allowing redstar to use them so you like that redstar is melee glitching. All that makes no sence lance stop being dumb. Youve been making stuff up sence you started posting on this thread no we dident try to hide up that we we used melee glitch and we told him not to before the game started? Not sure if your trying to troll or send a message through that winky face but your crying because mavado admitted to angel that we dident need to melee glitch to beat you guys, we wrecked you all three games. derp. i can care less about the outcome of the games, you obviously cant. "were winning PC but their cheating with melee glitchers but its okay for us to use them too". If your gona cry that aris spanking your butt go tell redstar, theyl tell you all about it yea maple, 1 guy melee'ing 3-4 people in a row has nothing to do with winning a game. lol... go ahead and keep supporting your "winning ways" bro. Fact still remains he does it in every game and 90% of the time he top scores... which is the sad part. A guy that glitches out scores your team hahaha So get back to your OP, and continue coming across as a hypocrite. So long as he plays in AE and continues to melee people, he's proving you're full of it cuz you continue to support it Your calling me a hypocrite when your okay with ARI helping redstar. In fact, you tell me to make a post about him when you wont make one about redstar using him. I say i dont like the melee glitch, that im here for freinds so you say i like it cuz it makes us win. You see how i dont like it ethire and can care less if we loose? You see that right? Said it already, not sure what your getting at, dont think it can be any more black and white than that. Your so bad at trolling lance, the butthurt is amazing. Never seen you cry so much
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1135	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:05:00 - [30] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game I have to respectfully agree with Lance. Now you say you don't approve of it Exmaple? Yet he continues to carry you in every game. Face it AE would not be half as relevant as they are if you didn't have Ari. FUNFACT: Ari didn't start melee glitching till he joined AE. I guess when he was apart of a group with good players he didn't have to depend on a glitch to keep his team relevant. Stop trying to lie to the community with your "Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game" quote. Nobody who knows the truth believes you not even a little bit. If you truly wanted this game challenging you wouldn't continue to remain in a corp that uses methods "you don't approve of"(I think you're full of it) You wanna see TP fall huh? Bet you regretting that. I told those numskulls not to even offer a proposition to you weaklings. I'd much rather keep destroying you guys no matter where you flee to. Lol this thread about aimbots turned into ari melee glitching, nice derailment. All my freinds are in this corp, i dont care if we suck or were good enough to compete with the best of them, doesent matter to me im only here to be with freinds. The rest of AE doesent care if we suck or not ethire, were just in it for the ride. And no i dont wanna see TP fall, like them i like "the good fights" why would i want them to stop? please do send them to destroy us if they do gg!! Im not here for the drama of things, im here to have fun and put in my 2 cents to make the game better untill i move onto something else. You like the soap apra aspect of dust cool, gosip how i support melee glitches cuz im part of AE. dont care Is that why you guys fled and screwed Hellstorm over For fun The fact that you guys cheat just lost credibility to whine about anything is all I'm saying. You have no right to say what needs to be fixed or what's legit or broken with your methods, FACT. lol i dont do any glitching, i simply play the game. Dont listen to me if you want i can care less, if one person in more corp does something wrong i have to be accountable too right? yep. Ethire way you need aimbot to kill me. As for the details of why we left hellstorm i wasent online when all the drama happened, i just went were my pals went. So i dunno

Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1138	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:20:00 - [31] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Your calling me a hypocrite when your okay with ARI helping redstar. In fact, you tell me to make a post about him when you wont make one about redstar using him. I say i dont like the melee glitch, that im here for freinds so you say i like it cuz it makes us win. You see how i dont like it ethire and can care less if we loose? You see that right? Said it already, not sure what your getting at, dont think it can be any more black and white than that. Your so bad at trolling lance, the butthurt is amazing. Never seen you cry so much Is RS here trying to complain about AA? Did RS melee glitch us in the tourney? If a RS guy was the OP, I'll give him the same treatment! Nothing personal, just pointing out you're a hypocrite, just like if a RS member had a post like yours. Thing is, a RS member didn't post this OP did they? No, you did. So how could any argument involve RS when neither of us here are in RS? I'm butthurt over what? Seems to me you're the one flinching over being called out. I've never cheated to win, nor has SyNergy. I can hold my head up high. You? lol... cheating to win. You must be so proud But hey, AA is the problem, mang! Fight the power! Fight noobism! But stay quiet and support your teammate and friend melee glitching people. It's all good. You guys were cool in HS. Now? lol... no respect for any of you. so you see everything in that box up there and im the hypocrite? lol okay lance, thats some pretty constructive logic, agreeing that melee glitching is wrong makes me a bad d00d, wish i was as righteous as you, the dust Marshal of all that is right. Your just as "bad" as me cuz your not on red stars ass about ari but your sure on mine for being in the same corp! Stay quiet and support your ally corpmates and freinds melee glitching people. Its all good. Already sounding just like you lance, your teary off topic delima of the Dust Genivious Convention is rubbing off on me. Turning me into a baby like you. Maby my first words will be "ima hypocrite" too
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1138	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:23:00 - [32] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Malcom Xo wrote: ] yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game I have to respectfully agree with Lance. Now you say you don't approve of it Exmaple? Yet he continues to carry you in every game. Face it AE would not be half as relevant as they are if you didn't have Ari. FUNFACT: Ari didn't start melee glitching till he joined AE. I guess when he was apart of a group with good players he didn't have to depend on a glitch to keep his team relevant. Stop trying to lie to the community with your "Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game" quote. Nobody who knows the truth believes you not even a little bit. If you truly wanted this game challenging you wouldn't continue to remain in a corp that uses methods "you don't approve of"(I think you're full of it) You wanna see TP fall huh? Bet you regretting that. I told those numskulls not to even offer a proposition to you weaklings. I'd much rather keep destroying you guys no matter where you flee to. Lol this thread about aimbots turned into ari melee glitching, nice derailment. All my freinds are in this corp, i dont care if we suck or were good enough to compete with the best of them, doesent matter to me im only here to be with freinds. The rest of AE doesent care if we suck or not ethire, were just in it for the ride. And no i dont wanna see TP fall, like them i like "the good fights" why would i want them to stop? please do send them to destroy us if they do gg!! Im not here for the drama of things, im here to have fun and put in my 2 cents to make the game better untill i move onto something else. You like the soap apra aspect of dust cool, gosip how i support melee glitches cuz im part of AE. dont care Is that why you guys fled and screwed Hellstorm over For fun The fact that you guys cheat just lost credibility to whine about anything is all I'm saying. You have no right to say what needs to be fixed or what's legit or broken with your methods, FACT. lol i dont do any glitching, i simply play the game. Dont listen to me if you want i can care less, if one person in more corp does something wrong i have to be accountable too right? yep. Ethire way you need aimbot to kill me You are cheating by association You do NOTHING about it. I know Ari is AE's best player but if you guys TRULY valued the community and the game Dust514 You would not tolerate a newcomer coming in and exploiting cheats while sporting your name. Your opinions and credibility is lower than dirt at this point. Nobody is trolling you, we are telling the truth. It would be like Sammy Sosa or Arod giving a lecture on why using Steroids is bad. Would be meaningless coming from them. EDIT- I doubt you even know what sport those 2 play so I am gonna put it in a easy way. You can't try to uphold the integrity of the game when your corp yourselves are bending the rules. Just saying[/quote] cheating by association...? we told him not to do it that match and he did, what else could we have done? we dont controle his joystick. Im not trying to uphold any integrity, im trying to get gungame back into dust. You guys are mad at me cuz my corpmate glitches. smh all my fault iknow, im a bad person
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1140	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:30:00 - [33] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Your calling me a hypocrite when your okay with ARI helping redstar. In fact, you tell me to make a post about him when you wont make one about redstar using him. I say i dont like the melee glitch, that im here for freinds so you say i like it cuz it makes us win. You see how i dont like it ethire and can care less if we loose? You see that right? Said it already, not sure what your getting at, dont think it can be any more black and white than that. Your so bad at trolling lance, the butthurt is amazing. Never seen you cry so much Is RS here trying to complain about AA? Did RS melee glitch us in the tourney? If a RS guy was the OP, I'll give him the same treatment! Nothing personal, just pointing out you're a hypocrite, just like if a RS member had a post like yours. Thing is, a RS member didn't post this OP did they? No, you did. So how could any argument involve RS when neither of us here are in RS? I'm butthurt over what? Seems to me you're the one flinching over being called out. I've never cheated to win, nor has SyNergy. I can hold my head up high. You? lol... cheating to win. You must be so proud But hey, AA is the problem, mang! Fight the power! Fight noobism! But stay quiet and support your teammate and friend melee glitching people. It's all good. You guys were cool in HS. Now? lol... no respect for any of you. so you see everything in that box up there and im the hypocrite? lol okay lance, thats some pretty constructive logic, agreeing that melee glitching is wrong makes me a bad d00d, wish i was as righteous as you, the dust Marshal of all that is right. Your just as "bad" as me cuz your not on red stars ass about ari but your sure on mine for being in the same corp! Stay quiet and support your ally corpmates and freinds melee glitching people. Its all good. Already sounding just like you lance, your teary off topic delima of the Dust Genivious Convention is rubbing off on me. Turning me into a baby like you. My my first words will be "ima hypocrite" too Am I missing something here? You are calling Lance a hypocrite. He is NOT in Redstar where they allegedly cheat. There is plenty of videos and evidence of Ari cheating in Tourny match against SyN as well as against other people. Hell a CPM saw it for himself. I would doubt Lance has any say what goes on in a corp outside of his own. Unless SyN is using Melee glitch, which I know for a fact they aren't he has every right to call you out. It is YOU who doesn't have the right to speak your opinion on the integrity of this game. It is YOU that is the hypocrite being in a corp that actually does do the melee glitch and you allow it. Rather you "disapprove" or not you still allow it to happen so you support it. Hes a hypocrite because hes okay with redstar doing but not anyone else. Do you see any threads were EON bangs on redstar about using Ari? no they are A-okay with him doing, they call out my CEO and Ari all the time but they dont call out the Redstar CEO or directors. Its not okay for AE to use the glitch, but its okay for redstar. Thats the message that is being sent. You say he has no ability to change what redstar does, so what do you expect me to do? Kick him from the corp full of my freinds? Im not a director and hes my freind like he is red stars freind. You act like i have the power to stop him from doing what he does
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1140	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:47:00 - [34] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Malcom Xo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Your calling me a hypocrite when your okay with ARI helping redstar. In fact, you tell me to make a post about him when you wont make one about redstar using him. I say i dont like the melee glitch, that im here for freinds so you say i like it cuz it makes us win. You see how i dont like it ethire and can care less if we loose? You see that right? Said it already, not sure what your getting at, dont think it can be any more black and white than that. Your so bad at trolling lance, the butthurt is amazing. Never seen you cry so much Is RS here trying to complain about AA? Did RS melee glitch us in the tourney? If a RS guy was the OP, I'll give him the same treatment! Nothing personal, just pointing out you're a hypocrite, just like if a RS member had a post like yours. Thing is, a RS member didn't post this OP did they? No, you did. So how could any argument involve RS when neither of us here are in RS? I'm butthurt over what? Seems to me you're the one flinching over being called out. I've never cheated to win, nor has SyNergy. I can hold my head up high. You? lol... cheating to win. You must be so proud But hey, AA is the problem, mang! Fight the power! Fight noobism! But stay quiet and support your teammate and friend melee glitching people. It's all good. You guys were cool in HS. Now? lol... no respect for any of you. so you see everything in that box up there and im the hypocrite? lol okay lance, thats some pretty constructive logic, agreeing that melee glitching is wrong makes me a bad d00d, wish i was as righteous as you, the dust Marshal of all that is right. Your just as "bad" as me cuz your not on red stars ass about ari but your sure on mine for being in the same corp! Stay quiet and support your ally corpmates and freinds melee glitching people. Its all good. Already sounding just like you lance, your teary off topic delima of the Dust Genivious Convention is rubbing off on me. Turning me into a baby like you. My my first words will be "ima hypocrite" too Am I missing something here? You are calling Lance a hypocrite. He is NOT in Redstar where they allegedly cheat. There is plenty of videos and evidence of Ari cheating in Tourny match against SyN as well as against other people. Hell a CPM saw it for himself. I would doubt Lance has any say what goes on in a corp outside of his own. Unless SyN is using Melee glitch, which I know for a fact they aren't he has every right to call you out. It is YOU who doesn't have the right to speak your opinion on the integrity of this game. It is YOU that is the hypocrite being in a corp that actually does do the melee glitch and you allow it. Rather you "disapprove" or not you still allow it to happen so you support it. Hes a hypocrite because hes okay with redstar doing but not anyone else. Do you see any threads were EON bangs on redstar about using Ari? no they are A-okay with him doing, they call out my CEO and Ari all the time but they dont call out the Redstar CEO or directors. Its not okay for AE to use the glitch, but its okay for redstar. Thats the message that is being sent. You say he has no ability to change what redstar does, so what do you expect me to do? Kick him from the corp full of my freinds? Im not a director and hes my freind like he is red stars freind. You act like i have the power to stop him from doing what he does [/quote] Lol......So now YOU are the victim of big bad Ari carrying you huh? There is NOTHING you can do right? YOU HAVE to play him huh? You can't kick him from the matches can ya? LMFAO You are so full of it Exmaple it makes me sick. Show me proof Redstar is glitching like Ari and I will call them out in a heartbeat. I just love your logic. YOU are the victim...lmfao! You sympathize and express your concerns every day to Ari but he's just a big bad ogre he over powers your whole corp and tells you guys what to think, say, act. LMFAO You guys use him because you need him, you aren't victims. Again you are being a hypocrite as well as a liar. This is why your opinion on legitimizing or trying to uphold the integrity of this game is a JOKE[/quote] Your blowing this waaay out of proportion and are personally attacking me, throwing words i have not said and are almost making stuff up. I never said im the vicitim but yeah, you guys turned a thread about aim assist into how im a bad person because i dont do enough to stop ari from using the melee glitch im my corp. Are we the victims? no, if my corp majority ruled to get ari kicked then yeah they would, i am one person and cant do it nor do i try because hes my freind. Nah, i cant kick no one its not my call, im not a director and im one person your addressing me as if im the entirety of the corporation or a director, im not. Im one person in the corp. And no, i dont big ari about it because its a game, freinds dont attack each other like that you big baby, your so hurt of the fact a glitch is being abused your crying out your butt saying anyone who knows him is a terrorable person that no one should listen to. Im in the same corp as him my bad! i need to throw a temper tantrum in corp chat and spam the forums cuz im not doing enough okay! that would get me kicked, not him. Your too shallow to see this
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1141	Posted - 2013.09.05 07:07:00 - [35] - Quote Malcom Xo wrote: You ALL defend it. Using friendship as a excuse to support his cheating is just plain WEAK I have grown bored of you thinking up what to type to appear as if you are legitimate and actually care about the integrity of this game. You have accused others of cheating with no proof what so ever. With all due respect YOU ARE LOW You come off as this guy who just wants things to be balanced out while you are cheating. You try to take the focus off yourselves by throwing another corp into the flames with no proof at all. Now when all else you play the victim card. You play it off as if you guys have no choice but to leave a cheater in your corp because he is your friend. You have no say or no opinion at all, I have grown bored while you cook up lie after lie after lie. Have fun QQing about how this game needs to bring back legitimate skill and uphold integrity for the player's sake when anybody who knows the truth can clearly see you are a fraud. Keep cheating in competitive matches so you can feel good about yourself laying to rest all your obvious insecurities to have to cheat on a game to get some sense of superiority. I dont need proof when EON admits they are using him: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: RS can use him if they want, i still call him out. RS didn't use him in the tourney though did they? Stay classy. Here you go again saying im the guy wronging everyone, i am not a corporation. I am a player, im here for the ride and ive been saying it this entire thread but you ignore it blatantly, reading around it and avoiding my texts as i say i, personally, individually, as in ME, exmaple core, just me, have nothing to do with it. I even say im not for it ethire! No i cant do anything about it it sucks! Okay! Sucks my freinds are here im staying while your crying and im laughing over how your not getting sleep cuz your scared aris under the bed cracking his knuckless, hes your boogie man. Talk about insecuritys alt boy? gnight. Hope you sleep as well as i do

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