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Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
31
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:46:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Ld Collins wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Ld Collins wrote:Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 wrote:skill = dead
aimbot = win If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ? yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful sure you can you're either better than the other person or you're not I've stated this before all these proto guys pub stomping low level players you all sucked and the only thing seperating you from them was sp now that those scrubs youve been stomping have aim assists your extra armor ammo and damage are crap. You were crappy players with an unfair advantage now that skill is down to aim and reaction time all these vet players are crying about it. okay then their not good, your ethire better than the other person or your not, like you said. Now like im saying, it doesent matter if your better or worse, your strafe speed is reduced to the point the aimbot has no difficulty gunning you down, as long as you have bullets in your clip your getting kills, and are prolly getting killed too because their shooting back. Theres no skill in dust now because were all using aimbots and the ppl with skill are being punished for it reaction time its just like cod its easy but its all down to 2 things reaction time and aim if you see the other guy scrubs as people like to say you should have a better fit than him meaning more armor shield or speed and damage and that should be what helps you win if you cant beat someone when you have the sp advantage and cry because you lose too a scrub then who's really the scrub. Why is aim assist making you worse you should be a more effiecient killing machine and if your evenly matched its pure skill. Im having a hard time understanding this if your a vet you have better gear than noobs just because they can aim better shouldnt mean they can stomp all over you, you have the sp advantage |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1100
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:47:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Ld Collins wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor obviously the person who attacked him first wasnt a scrub if he got him down to 50 armor just sayin you can tell from their jerky movements and full auto auto spray from the moment they see you that they aren't composed.. last week this kinda person would go through their entire ar clip, throw all their grenades while leaping and if still alive would switch to sidearm and spray that too. Now these people drop all your shields like nothing! There's no skill in that and it leaves you vulnerable to nearby aim assist spray insainely true. RIght here, well said |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
31
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:48:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Ld Collins wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor obviously the person who attacked him first wasnt a scrub if he got him down to 50 armor just sayin you can tell from their jerky movements and full auto auto spray from the moment they see you that they aren't composed.. last week this kinda person would go through their entire ar clip, throw all their grenades while leaping and if still alive would switch to sidearm and spray that too. Now these people drop all your shields like nothing! There's no skill in that and it leaves you vulnerable to nearby aim assist spray why can't you drop thier shields you have aim assist too |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
789
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:49:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor
LOL yet and still my post even answers your rebuttal without me having to say a word.
What will you do?
Will you cry and moan?
Or will you adapt and overcome?
HTFU...do some push ups...get tackled by MLB...do something to quit all ya crying... |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
403
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:52:00 -
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I am sorry but you don't speak for this vet.
I make my own conclusions, YES i have been know to backflip, but that to me is a sign of opinions being balanced by experience.
Sure i've been getting killed more, I'm fine with that, because i've also been killing more proto pub stompers. Sure i could run proto, but i'd rather run ADV cause "Thats how I run!"...
by the way... I use KB/M... hit detection is what you are actually complaining about IMHO.... >.< |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
159
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:53:00 -
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I agree with the OP. This patch has now made the game so much more like CoD that it is unbearable. Aim assist has forced me to change my tactics, suits, everything. If I really, really wanted aim assist, I would not be playing this game. Before you had to use the controller to stay on target, and now it is just point, shoot, let the game do the rest. Now, even a Scrambler Rifle can't outgun an assault rifle |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
789
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:55:00 -
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lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1101
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:55:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Ld Collins wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Ld Collins wrote:[
If you have skill wont aimbot just make things that much easier :-/ ? yes, but you cant escape or deffend yourself from insaine accuracy. Everyone has it, now you do not need skill to be successful sure you can you're either better than the other person or you're not I've stated this before all these proto guys pub stomping low level players you all sucked and the only thing seperating you from them was sp now that those scrubs youve been stomping have aim assists your extra armor ammo and damage are crap. You were crappy players with an unfair advantage now that skill is down to aim and reaction time all these vet players are crying about it. okay then their not good, your ethire better than the other person or your not, like you said. Now like im saying, it doesent matter if your better or worse, your strafe speed is reduced to the point the aimbot has no difficulty gunning you down, as long as you have bullets in your clip your getting kills, and are prolly getting killed too because their shooting back. Theres no skill in dust now because were all using aimbots and the ppl with skill are being punished for it reaction time its just like cod its easy but its all down to 2 things reaction time and aim if you see the other guy scrubs as people like to say you should have a better fit than him meaning more armor shield or speed and damage and that should be what helps you win if you cant beat someone when you have the sp advantage and cry because you lose too a scrub then who's really the scrub. Why is aim assist making you worse you should be a more effiecient killing machine and if your evenly matched its pure skill. Im having a hard time understanding this if your a vet you have better gear than noobs just because they can aim better shouldnt mean they can stomp all over you, you have the sp advantage
no, we vets have better gear like you said, and we aim better than them. We aimed better sence the start of dust! for the past years, pending on when we vets started playing. We crushed noobs and scubs alike when you needed to manually aim at ppl to shoot them, we have better aim. Now aim is not valued as anyone can "aim" an aimbot. In this case, like we agree on, all you need is more EHP to win and then you die on your second gunfight. no one wants to play like this, there is no skill in this, putting armor plates and extenders on your suit is not skillworthy when this game used to require footwork and hand/eye coordination as you struggled to ADS and strafe at the same time. Therewas no auto aim lock that ensured your rounds hit, you needed to practice to become skilled. not anymore. Thats the promblem, how can you comfortably say someone is better when no one is using skill anymore, their just aimbots? |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
859
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:57:00 -
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If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
159
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:57:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it.
And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before. |
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pyramidhead 420
89th Infantry Division
18
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:57:00 -
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this guy here is special, KING of all the crybabies in dustland. take a bow miss you deserve it |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1101
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:58:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor LOL yet and still my post even answers your rebuttal without me having to say a word. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? HTFU...do some push ups...get tackled by MLB...do something to quit all ya crying... Why dont you actually debate instead of saying deal with it? Your wrong and youknow it |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
162
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:58:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
795
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:59:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it. And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before.
Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more. And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd. |
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
32
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:03:00 -
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
162
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it. And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before. Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more. And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd. You just made an extreme comparison saying that I need to use my brain more. Please don't be a hypocrite.
And I used to play CoD, but I stopped for DUST. I can make the comparison. |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
33
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:05:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill. That makes no sense at all if you were good without it you should be better with it. The only difference was before if you had that duvolle tac ar your gonna shred people you had more range more damage you got soft because you could mow people down now everyone can aim and your true skills are starting to show your only advantage was your damage and extra shield and armor your sucked before and you suck now just saying in general this is not solely directed at you |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
795
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:06:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Sooo... just how many of these threads are you going to make? This. How does one who claim to be skillful cannot beat the ones who uses aim assist? That just mean that your reckless, "I am god with the aiming" playstyle must be adjusted. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? He never said he couldnt beat the person with aim assist - he said he couldnt fight the next guy immediately after because the scrub before him lander 100% of his bullets and left him at 50 armor LOL yet and still my post even answers your rebuttal without me having to say a word. What will you do? Will you cry and moan? Or will you adapt and overcome? HTFU...do some push ups...get tackled by MLB...do something to quit all ya crying... Why dont you actually debate instead of saying deal with it? Your wrong and youknow it
Debate about what though? I don't know, we have different mentalities I guess. Life is always throwing a curveball so instead of crying about it, I learn how to overcome the obstacle.
That "fighting spirit/perseverance" mentality transitions over to my gameplay. All I'm saying is find out how you can beat those people.
I would take it as a challenge. I would say to myself "okay these guys want to use aim assist, I will show them the uselessness in it" and proceed to hone my skills to decimate the competition.
I take the negative and turn into a positive for motivation. Maybe that's some life skill that needs to be acquired. I really see no debate here.
You're getting hit more and you're complaining about it.
There's only two roads you can take: Either you cry to referee for a play call reversal or you get back on the field and make that player pay for the penalty called in his favor.
What else is there to discuss?
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
795
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:07:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it. And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before. Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more. And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd. You just made an extreme comparison saying that I need to use my brain more. Please don't be a hypocrite. And I used to play CoD, but I stopped for DUST. I can make the comparison.
Yea and that makes you qualified expert. Entertain me, how is it like COD? Seriously, enlighten me. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
164
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:09:00 -
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Ld Collins wrote:Patrick57 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill. That makes no sense at all if you were good without it you should be better with it. The only difference was before if you had that duvolle tac ar your gonna shred people you had more range more damage you got soft because you could mow people down now everyone can aim and your true skills are starting to show your only advantage was your damage and extra shield and armor your sucked before and you suck now just saying in general this is not solely directed at you Punctuation works too.
It's not about the fact that Vets should be better with it, it's about the fact that it does not reward them for being good because now all the noobs play just as good as the vets. |
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
50
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:09:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote: "our milliions of sp" lol i dont understand what is so funny about have millions of sp over the enemy and hardly being better than them due to an aim assist
if you were better than them in the first place it would not matter, or maybe your just **** and dont want to admit it? |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
164
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:09:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it. And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before. Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more. And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd. You just made an extreme comparison saying that I need to use my brain more. Please don't be a hypocrite. And I used to play CoD, but I stopped for DUST. I can make the comparison. Yea and that makes you qualified expert. Entertain me, how is it like COD? Seriously, enlighten me. Aim assist. |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
34
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:11:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:lol he said it made it more like COD! Dudes will say anything to get a reaction from CCP. lol obviously you don't know that CCP doesn't respond to half the forums in here! This thread already has 4 pages and still no devs have posted in it. And yes, this game is much more like CoD than it ever was before. Obviously I'm talking about how people make these extreme comparisons to get a point across. Yea...try using your brain more. And no it is not like COD. You're just a follower. There's no way in heck this game is like COD. It's absurd. You just made an extreme comparison saying that I need to use my brain more. Please don't be a hypocrite. And I used to play CoD, but I stopped for DUST. I can make the comparison. Yea and that makes you qualified expert. Entertain me, how is it like COD? Seriously, enlighten me. Id say the only COD qualities would be reaction time and aim thats basically what call of duty boils down to if you are good at that then you can get alot of kills dust was the more sp you had the better you were period didnt matter if you were good at aiming or had better reaction times you could just out dps anyone with inferior suits. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
164
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:12:00 -
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Aim assist was a terribad idea.
/end thread |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:13:00 -
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How do any of you know that aim assist is to blame anyway? I tried it out and I could see the problem because I was using the laser rifle and I did really well to my surprise but some people do toggle that option on and off. Someone here mentioned that maybe the improved hit detection is to blame which might be another reason. |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
457
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:14:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill.
Aim Assist cannot replace skill. I've played the game without aim assist ever since beta. I've tried playing with aim assist on tonight to see what all the fuss is about. Honestly, this "Aimbot" dilemma is exactly what I thought it was when I first read about it, BS. Nothing even remotely close to what is being described in these QQ threads I have found to be true. hence I've turned my Aim assist back off since I'm used to playing Dust without it. Aim Assist is there to do and works exactly as it says, assist. Not Kill.
Those that are truly better than me will kill me, Those that aren't will die, regardless if they have aim assist on or not.
If you think otherwise than sorry, you aren't as skilled as you thought, Time to HTFU. |
Dengru
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
100
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:17:00 -
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There's just no reasoning with some people, have to twist everything into an insult about being carried by sp. No arguments, just dumb trolls |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
164
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:17:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Patrick57 wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:If you think players are now as equally skilled as you or you find yourself having Trouble putting up the numbers you used to, maybe....just maybe you're not as good as you thought. Or maybe people didn't have aim assist back then so playing the game actually required skill. Aim Assist cannot replace skill. I've played the game without aim assist ever since beta. I've tried playing with aim assist on tonight to see what all the fuss is about. Honestly, this "Aimbot" dilemma is exactly what I thought it was when I first read about it, BS. Nothing even remotely close to what is being described in these QQ threads I have found to be true. hence I've turned my Aim assist back off since I'm used to playing Dust without it. Aim Assist is there to do and works exactly as it says, assist. Not Kill. Those that are truly better than me will kill me, Those that aren't will die, regardless if they have aim assist on or not. If you think otherwise than sorry, you aren't as skilled as you thought, Time to HTFU. What? You can turn it off??
I feel stupid... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
812
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:18:00 -
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Im just annoyed that before i would excel with the SMG's because i knew how and WHEN to use the sight,and when to spray.
As it is now i really never need to aim.All bullets will hit and i can move faster.
Its really a shame...I dont feel very ''skilled'' using SMGs now....
My K-D ratio WILL go up,and im not happy about it because i know that its not me getting better.... Too weird? |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:18:00 -
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Yep, hit detection is probably the real "culprit."
I do about the same now as I did pre-1.4 and I have aim-assist turned off. All the QQ threads are people just realizing they aren't as good as they originally thought. Sorry, better stock up on tissues. |
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