Question still stands....
I don't remember any election where the "Vets" made him speaker
for all...
Oh that's right! There wasn't one...

Still, Say no to Noobism?

I dont need to be elected Vet of 1.4 to say aimbot has removed the skill requirement out of dust. The tactica is still there, but now you dont need to be any special sort of foot solider to do well. You certainly used to

meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch.

So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol?

As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now.

You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!"

meh... i just find it funny that he talks about "skilled players" yet he fully supported one of his teammates exploiting the melee glitch.

So basically Maple is saying, yea glitching to kill people is cool, but turning on AA to help SHOOT people is a problem? lol?

As I said a few times before, CCP is obviously having problems fixing the root of the problem, aiming wise, so the best / fastest solution is to crank up AA. Is it too much? Not really. My only concern or question about it is where is the center of attraction? It seems getting headshots from hipfire is the norm now.

You mad people using AA? lol... This AA isn't even as bad as BF3, and I saw less QQ there about it than here... the home of "HTFU BRO! THIS IS NEW EDEN!"

"skill"??? skill hasn't been in DUST A LONG TIME NOW! lol... where have you been?! Nades, MD's, Melee glitch, LAV roadkills, FG Roof camping... skill? hahahahahah

Good one Maple.

Care to show me were i openly and fully supported the melee glitch? putting words into my mouth, lance. i do not approve of glitching in competitive play but i stay in the corp because my freinds are there. Also, this is not battlefield, 2 very different games

Silence means content. If you didn't speak up against it, you were for it. If one of my friends did it, i would openly call him out on it. Know why? Cuz friends shouldn't get butthurt about the truth. Yet you didn't speak up about it when it mattered. How about speaking up about it when he did it during the tourney? No? Of course not, cuz it helped you win.

You're a hypocrite crying about AA. This is something I'm not supporting on this forum. Something to help players you people crying over????? This isn't a MD buff, or a Caldari buff, this is something to help people aim in a game where aiming was pure crap!

You're right this isn't BF3, cuz BF3 >>>>>>>> DUST. If only DUST felt half as good as BF3 does, we'll have allot more content now. Instead we're stuck with updates trying to make the game feel somewhat decent. And now it's taken a step in that direction and people crying about it???? GG!!

Your making false accusations, friend. Radar and us told ari about the glitch use in the tourney, no we were not silent he did it anyway and he got an ear full after the battle and we were all very butthurt about him not cooperating. So no, i am not a hypocrite and your and asswhole for thinking so ill. Aiming was crap and it was a problem but now the problem is reversed in the opposite direction by making AA too efficent, ppl were getting 30+ kills with worse aiming and higher strafing speeds when the game took some talent and now you have no way to evade ppls unrealistic accuracy. If not being able to do anything about your enemys weapons is a step in the right direction than myself and many others dont want anything to do with future dust. Its clear you dont ethire so who cares.

btw, ari rings for redstar every chance he gets for PC. cool with your alliance melee glitching? be silent or do something about it

lol an "ear full"... please. He still does it in every PC game. He's from RS, so he plays with them. You think I didn't know? lol... I'm calling him out now! I've been calling him out since it started, knowing fully well he's from RS.

You're a hypocrite bro. Plain and simple. The fact that your team kept picking him for PC games, and the fact you NEVER said anything against him in any threads created about it, proves it. So using AA is bad, but by all means, let's continue to pick and play mr melee glitcher in all our matches, and give him an "ear full" about it. lol... where was your thread complaining about the melee glitch maple?

Now new players can actually kill people, and it's a big problem..OMG GUYS, THE SKILLED PLAYERS OF DUST ARE TIRED OF AA!!! IT ALLOWS NOOBS THE ABILITY TO AIM. smh.

This community is growing more and more pathetic. This is one 'issue' i have no problem with. God forbid people can aim and kill other people now. Yea i can see the problem there.

Even thought, in general, I agree with the OP about aim assist, it has no place in a competitive FPS; in the part where he talks about the game encouraging 'skilled, intelligent players who have the most SP', he lost me. Since when is grinding to get the 'I win -protosuit- button' intelligent?

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Tell me this: How are you even differentiating between aim assist and better hitboxes? And don't say "cause noobs are killing me" because we are used to a glitches system and have been having to compensate up until now, noobs are going to be better now that they are not fighting against broken mechanics to be half decent.
I only used the assist for two games last night and the difference was hardly noticeable.

If there were more ppl doing the melee glitch than yeah i would make a thread about it but untill then he is litterally the only person in the game who does it you think making a fourm post about my corp mate is a good idea? Yep ill do that right now prolly get kicked from corp. Right on lance, good idea. i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours?

New players could kill ppl before if they learned the gungame! ive killed proto suits in standard assualt and ar suilts before, you have, most ppl in our corps have we all have! Now they dont have to work towards that. Infact, no one has to work towards anything again as long as dust is so easy mode with AA

Because of aimbot, one day has passed and the vets already hate dust. We dont want to play this game when everyone is just as good as us because of an aim assist, that is not earned. Our millions of SP ahead of other players is now nonfactored because it only takes an AR to kill you now that they have near perfect accuracy, the delema only amplified with reduced strafe speed. The only way to play now is to stack EHP and outlast the enemy as you both kill each other almost instantly. Then after you win that gunfight, you loose your second because your almost dead.

some ppl say this game is now better because "it is forcing ppl to use tactics and cover"
You dont need aimbot to use tactics and cover, i dont understand how those in favor of aimbot can say this is a valid argument. This is an FPS, it should be assumed we are already using tactics and cover, expescially the better players of the game. No, we would not call ourselfs skilled if we did not use our brains and surroundings. The only difference with aimbot is its easier to shoot above or around the cover your hiding behind.

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP. Why should we set everyone on the same playing feild, setting everyone on par with everyone? Now, you do not need skill to play the game and it is okay if you are not as skilled as a player as the guy your shooting, the aim ''assist" will kill him as quickly as he kills you.

Yes, im saying someone with 4 mill SP and 2 months of playing time should continue to get blown away by someone with 22 mill SP and 10 months of gungame experience. The person with more experience has better aim, uses cover more efficiently, and has better gear than the noob but they come out almost even on gunfights. Is that balanced? It was before, when you, youknow. needed skill to win???

Tell me this: How are you even differentiating between aim assist and better hitboxes? And don't say "cause noobs are killing me" because we are used to a glitches system and have been having to compensate up until now, noobs are going to be better now that they are not fighting against broken mechanics to be half decent.
I only used the assist for two games last night but the difference was hardly noticeable.

Edit: and I response to your statement about "tactics and cover": the one thing I noticed about the aim assist was that above all it made strafing very stupid, when people say it makes you use tactics and cover they mean that strafing in circles while you unload into someone is just not possible anymore. It is a bs move that would not stand a chance on any battleground but was necessary in this game because of wobbly hitboxes and the large amount of shield+armour.
Honestly, strafing is a skill I am happy to trade back to using tactical cover points.

lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out.

You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself?

You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya!

I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument.

Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months.

''Did you ever considered new player experience on this game? ''

When i was a new player i got steamrolled, anad i liked it bacuse i knew some day i would be able to do the same.Be that guy that can go 35-2 in a game. I toughened it up and now im here. Im NOT a ''vet'' , nor ''pro'' ,but the fact the game was hard as shiat was the real incentive on playing it.

''....op of it there was the stupid fast strafing to sponge bullets.''
Thanks to the removal of this scouts are night unusable now.

''e n00bs aint just gunfodder anymore which means that new players dont just turn away from the game after 3 matches of constantly getting pwnd''
Noobs are gun fodder ALWAYS.You can have 15+ mill and still be a noob. Or have 1 mil and be a good player. The only difference is that the good player went 8-2 in a game and now he goes 16-4....And later on he will go 30-6...
When i started playing DUST i thought The MLT AR was a powerful weapon i was entitled since i started playing as an ''enforcer'' and when i discovered that the Assault rifle had 60 bullets i was shocked and i would do really good. Point is. The problem of with aim assists in not ''vets'' getting killed, but the fact aim assist is a stealthy nerf to Heavies and Scouts. Here is why:

MED FRAMES: Have decent/High speed and decent/high armor. Good shield regen and damage output. They are balanced,and there by they have the advantage. The first one to shoot wins. BUT no only this is brain-dead ,because even if the most skilled player wins he will still be heavily damaged and the next scrub will take you down, doesnt matter your skill,he wont miss and even if you dont either he has the HP advantage.

Light Frames: WHATS the point of being speedy if bullets literally follow you? Plus you cant even whithstand a small AR burst.

Heavies: Yup,they have high EHP but the lack of mobility is now even worse.Just by peeking out from behind a wall i would get 700 damage from a lot of reds spamming in my general direction,while before 1.4, i would only get 100.
100 to 700 is a BIG difference....

CCP you made a mistake here. We love you and there by i'll tell you this:

HIT DETECTION fix =/= Uber Aim Assist

lol Maple I'm done. You say whatever it takes to yourself for you to get through the day. Where's my post? I made a couple threads about it. I made multiple posts about it. You? Not a peep till now, when you're getting called out.

You're happy when a glitch works in your favor, but have a problem of something that works in everyone's favor. You hear yourself?

You fail to realize that DUST was ALWAYS EASY MODE. Now they made aiming to mirror other FPS out there, and tbh, it's not even as bad as other FPS out there. BF3 AA is far worse. But hey, i guess people trying hard to be relevant in a dying game still huh? Gotta keep that KD high and not let noobs kill ya!

I'm done. You're hellbent on this lame argument.

Fun fact though, and people will soon realize this. Thanks to how the AA works, heavy HMGs will soon become a thing of the past in PC games. Am I complaining about it? No. I don't care anymore because this is actually making the game fun. I pick up my AR and have fun now. CCP might realize how weak heavy HMGs have become, or they might not, but for now, the game is actually fun to play. Today was the first day I played pub games in about 2 months.

You seem quite ignorant so i take it that you are from team players which would match your corperation name.
I kinda envy your patience and progressing with gear to see the bright light at the end of a long and dark tunnel but most players dont have that. And fact is nobody likes it to get stomped on over and over only to be competetive after like 3 months. CCP made a smart move and you should not be aible to win a 2vs1 fight head on. Thats just stupid thinking and not helpfull for developing this game. Good that CCP doesnt listen to the "vets" otherwise we would go back to E3 and sit in tanks on top of buildings shoting the spawnpoint in the redline.

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i wont make a fourm post about ari like you wont make a post about your entire corporation of red star so eagerly calling him up to the patty cake party. weres my post, weres yours?
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Dunno how you say im happy when a glitch works in my favor when i said i dont approve of it?
and you made some threads about red star using Ari? link some threads up here, lets see them! Hypocrite! Good for you lance. Enjoy our dieing game
Edit yep it was always easy mode if you speced into it. Now everything is, no matter what you spec into. Tryna get that changed so theres some challenge still left in the game

Dust has always been a game that rewards the skilled and intelligent players and those who have the most SP

Continue to grasp at straws to try and make an argument. Fact is you liked when the glitch was in your favor, but now something is in everyone's favor it's bad for the game

Not everyone's.
[looks at scout suit]