So would the AR community like having under barrel SL attachment?

So would the AR community like having under barrel SL attachment?

not in the slightest, there are still major things that aren't right with the balance, however those only make up part of the balance.

certain subjects of this imbalance are quite obvious:

no advanced or prototype tanks.
invisible swarms and infantry.
horrible rendering.
core mechanics.
AV convenience when it comes to AV grenades. etc etc.

the only thing that would be beneficial in starting the overhaul of this imbalance would be to bring in advanced and prototype tanks.
only then could we begin, otherwise wed be back to where we are now.

and squads are fine il admit, but they aren't ideal for survival, especially if your squad doesn't care about your tank nor does your team which is what happens 95% of the time.

tanks need lone survivability, otherwise theres no incentive to skill into them other than waving the currently biggest weapon around pointing it at your enemy's faces

and why did you plant that seed? lol

Ted is one of the BEST tankers in the game. I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case. Based on what you just told me and the few times I played with him, I have a good idea what fit he was running.

You are ONE proto AV guy. The good tankers of dust have no problem with ONE proto av. The second another shows up we are screwed. Also, you're probably not a very good AV gunner BC if you don't understand that you don't shoot tanks with their hardeners on (shield tanks can pull a little less than 90% resistance at times), then you need to rethink your tactics.

I Gaurentee if you payed attention to his battle rhythm, you could've 3-shotted him, easily. The good tankers roll in a rhythm of kill, run, kill. Kill mode is often accompanied by 50-90% damage resistance for 10-60 seconds, depending on the build. Learn that, and tanks will be easy. There's a reason that the tank is still the best AV weapon we know each other's tricks. You'll never understand AV until you hop into a tank and learn how incredibly weak they are, save that short burst of defensive prowess.




Anyway, stop QQing. It's like saying that the AR needs a nerf BC a guy in TP went 25:0 with it. (The AR is OP but not for that reason)

For kicks.

I agree with most of your post, except the bolded part. They don't need lone survivability, you just need better friends.

First, it should take more AV then one person can carry to bring a vehicle down. Just as a tank should be operated by more then 1 person for maximum benefit.

Second, there should be no man portable weapon that can out range a tank, especially in render distance. Equal range or less. The only exception here might be blaster turrets, as they are a close range high damage choice. But that should be made perfectly clear in the show info tab, so that people know the ranges that they are choosing to fit to their chassis.

Thirdly, calling in an HAV into a public match with no friends should be a high risk choice. You should be risking a very high cost machine, that doesn't guarantee you a killing machine if you can't find the right people to accompany you. I'm not sure of the viability of this, but hopping into someone's vehicle should give the driver the option to add them to their voice channel/squad. This will help facilitate the coordination it should require to dominate the battlefield. Along with this, drivers need the kick function. One that will prevent the kicked person from hopping back in, for at least several minutes, maybe even the duration of the match.

yes, we do need lone survivability, why else do we have the ability to personally skilling into tanks ourselves instead having it like BF. its for us personally to use them, if you take away our effectiveness as a lone tanker, you remove the incentive to skill into them. I know I didn't skill into tanks so random people could get in the gunner seat, I skilled into it so I could use it myself

Just played a game with Ted Nugget of SVER.

Redline sniping...okay, i see that coming from a mile away from tanks.

Decides to stop redline sniping, switch to missile tank.

I switch to proto Ishukone FG with prof 5.

8 Forge gun hits later....hes chugging along, with full health a few seconds afterwards....as if i didn't exist.

Yea....tanks seriously need a buff.

Ass holes.

You know, people are pushing to make it so you can't control the main gun if you're the driver.

theyv been trying to do that for months now, if it happens, tanks lose all their value, who in the game would skill into just driving tanks.

Seems like CCP is considering it

I just want to throw this in.

The whole rendering "issue" is complete nonsense! I have been instapopped by redline rail tanks that were a good 400 - 500 m out. They were in fact so far out that they did not turn my Forge Gun reticule's color indicating they were in range. No, before you talk smack, I was NOT in a tower sniping position. I was on the ground holding an objective, trying to push the tank off of our installations while getting sniped, dodging murder taxis, core locus grenades, mass driver spam, and everything else that is the bane of my existence as a heavy!

So let me ask you, how did the rail tank hit me from so far away if, like many claim "forge gunners don't render at long distances"

WAHHHHH BOOOO HOOOOOO.

I agree 100% with the OP. There are too many tankers who just want invincibility while sitting in their nice cozy little death machine.

My corp has several tankers who never-NEVER complain about tanks being UP. In fact these guys score 1st place on end of match every time they play with 2500+ WP without even trying very hard! I have seen them score 3500+ WP with like 50 - 60 kills.

Just yesterday I was playing in a squad with one of our tankers, and the ENTIRE match he was LAUGHING at the AV guys with swarms because they could not take his tank down!

Some tankers need to seriously learn how to play their role and HTFU or go find another game that they can be more successful at. Perhaps something like this would better suit you crybabies!

please link it

Update: We do have plans on making HAV more tactical in the future.

Just played a game with Ted Nugget of SVER.

Redline sniping...okay, i see that coming from a mile away from tanks.

Decides to stop redline sniping, switch to missile tank.

I switch to proto Ishukone FG with prof 5.

8 Forge gun hits later....hes chugging along, with full health a few seconds afterwards....as if i didn't exist.

Yea....tanks seriously need a buff.

Ass holes.

yes, we do need lone survivability, why else do we have the ability to personally skilling into tanks ourselves instead having it like BF. its for us personally to use them, if you take away our effectiveness as a lone tanker, you remove the incentive to skill into them. I know I didn't skill into tanks so random people could get in the gunner seat, I skilled into it so I could use it myself

ted nugget is awesome
once a long time ago i saw him in a lav and i was going to fg him but stopped and watched him flying off huge jumps lol

I think we'll just have to disagree then. If you want to tank alone, then I think you should run the risk of being solo'd by AV. I certainly don't think that the driver should lose control of the main gun. In fact, I think that if you solo tank, you should be able to quick swap between any available turret, while still controlling the tank.

Here is an example of a well coordinated tank against solo AV. WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT! Notice his loser friends who didn't skill into AV to help support him.

tactical does not mean completely useless

Omfg ted! He saw it! NASCAR TED!!!!

lol i was amazed by it,he would go so high

What if I were to go back to tanks and there is no longer a Red Line? I have the SP for it...

squad up with me and let me show you another LAV trick of mine... :-) im on now and LFS

What if I were to go back to tanks and there is no longer a Red Line? I have the SP for it...

squad up with me and let me show you another LAV trick of mine... :-) im on now and LFS