What makes ted one of the best tankers in the game, cause he can flip on a few modules and become invincible while he hides behind a hill to rep at a crazy amount

And sorry, 1 tank = 1 infantry player. 1 object for 1 object. You have a single tank operated by a single person (excluding those in turrets which can't actually maneuver the tank). You can move this death-squad on wheels by yourself and it is in a single location. And you want a minimum of 3 AV players to take it out? LOL. Yeah, the chances of 3 dedicated AV players all in the prime spot to take out a tank and somehow manage to avoid all the infantry players who shoot on sight when a red is in range... not good.

Also you think it should be a 3:1 ratio? You do realize that when an infantry player uses AV they are useless against other infantry players? (forge is the small exception). So if there is 2 tanks in the game, that means 6 infantry players are now out of the loop and hunting vehicles only.

With a 16 v 16 game, that means it's really 16 vs 10 (and two tanks on the enemy team). Yeah, ok buddy

Hey if i could press a magical button to have a freindly tanker roll in to take on the enemy tank, then that would be great. Sadly tankers for the most part only call in a tank to whoop defenseless infantry ass (until the infantry gets pissed off enough to bring AV).

The only way to take on a tank shouldn't be another tank. As that is when something is clearly OP. Things need to have multiple counters, not just one, to be balanced.

Void Echo, I'm curious to know how you think it's balanced if it requires 3 people to take out 1 tanker. That effectively takes three people off the field to combat the one person in the tank. Why is it necessary that a solo tank requires multiple people to kill?

I would understand it if each person in the HAV roughly meant another AV specialist required, but only if they were specced into vehicles as well. (Side note on this - I can't believe CCP still aren't working on vehicle locks.)

So I have a question - Do you think it should take multiple AV specialists to destroy one HAV with one pilot in, or do you think that it should be reserved for when you have multiple people in the tank?
If you think it should take multiple AV per solo HAV, could you explain what balances that, in your eyes?

Okay, I'm game for this part of child's play.

For someone who isn't fully specced into Forge Guns, Swarms launchers and Plasma cannons, you sure act like you know everything about them.

See how easy it is to play a child's game?

Is your next attempt going to point out that I'm in the Amarr Templars Corp?

Yes, the Heavy suit hasn't been nerfed, The Forge gun was always registering hits correctly, and they didn't completely butcher the HMG from its previous glory, and I've only been waiting for armor to get buffed for...what, 8 months? Gotcha.

And yea man, someone has to do something! You know how to program and develop games right?

Give CCP a hand and start emailing them your code.

And there you have it.

Activision is waiting with their arms open. You're obviously on the wrong game.

Wow... Oh my.... LOL.

Tankers from this forum only go to skirmish and domination, wow, boy I wish that was the case. Actually, tanks go to ambush for little risk and high reward, it is where they are the most powerful in this game. And they are absolutely destroying that mode.

If you tank and only play skirmish and domination, you are somebody I can respect. But the douche tankers who frequent ambush are one of the bigger problems with tanks in this game. I see many well-known tankers from this forum in bush, and quite a lot from the D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E alliance and SVER too.

Well AV players currently have to be in a squad to take on players such as Ted Nugget and his tank, so why can tankers solo it and not us?

Just played a game with Ted Nugget of SVER.

Redline sniping...okay, i see that coming from a mile away from tanks.

Decides to stop redline sniping, switch to missile tank.

I switch to proto Ishukone FG with prof 5.

8 Forge gun hits later....hes chugging along, with full health a few seconds afterwards....as if i didn't exist.

Yea....tanks seriously need a buff.

Ass holes.

Ted is one of the BEST tankers in the game. I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case. Based on what you just told me and the few times I played with him, I have a good idea what fit he was running.

You are ONE proto AV guy. The good tankers of dust have no problem with ONE proto av. The second another shows up we are screwed. Also, you're probably not a very good AV gunner BC if you don't understand that you don't shoot tanks with their hardeners on (shield tanks can pull a little less than 90% resistance at times), then you need to rethink your tactics.

I Gaurentee if you payed attention to his battle rhythm, you could've 3-shotted him, easily. The good tankers roll in a rhythm of kill, run, kill. Kill mode is often accompanied by 50-90% damage resistance for 10-60 seconds, depending on the build. Learn that, and tanks will be easy. There's a reason that the tank is still the best AV weapon we know each other's tricks. You'll never understand AV until you hop into a tank and learn how incredibly weak they are, save that short burst of defensive prowess.




Anyway, stop QQing. It's like saying that the AR needs a nerf BC a guy in TP went 25:0 with it. (The AR is OP but not for that reason)

I've blasted you with one PROTO AV fit. Actually, I've done that to all the good ones i know of.

Ok Ok Ok... here I am to tell you guys my story... lol... Duran Lex made a very good attempt to kill me, several times, My squad was even hating on me for "red line sniping" with my railgun with damage mods. I was just wanting to make some money and not lose a tank. I mean we all know how easy it is to lose a tank. This guy was dedicated to blowing me up. I mean he drove an LAV up to me on our red line jumped out and started shooting me. I am like you bastard! LOL. But seriously, I was just covering one Objective on the bridge map, E from under the mcc hill. There was this armor tank, some guy from TCD I don't remember his name, however he had missiles on his tank. I was like I am shield and he is armor I will just swap my fit around use missiles with damage mods and buffer fit and smack him around. Dude tanked my missiles but ran away. I hit him a lot and he didn't die. I was in shock, props to this guy, that he suvived and still had time to get to his red line and rep up and so I was a little low on HP from that battle so I go back to my "red line" spot. Never fear here comes the LAV down that long straight road. I am like you gotta be kidding me. This guy Duran Lex is on a relentless assault on me. I just run away, again, meanwhile my squad is like that tank is back at D. I am like this guy is gonna get it. I go to D, Duran Lex no where to be seen. I inform my squad he will be there soon to get me to be ready to help take him out. I see the tank. I make my flank start shooting him in the ass, weak point, watching HP just melt away. Of course he goes on his run away trip again. What is this, a forge gun again. DURAN LEX! He was on top of that hill by D. I am like you bastard leave me alone already. He hit me like 5 or 6 times. With whatever forge he had. I am begging my squad to take him out. Match ends! Now me being the tanker that I am. I had no reps on said tank. Close to 7000 shields and lose to about 40% resist. You can figure that fit out if you want. As for you Duran, I give you mad props as you were one of the only people on your team that was attacking me. Your little post just strokes me ego for me. Thanks. See you again sometime, and I am looking forward to it.

well at the state of tanks, they aren't worth their price, its 2 choices:

1. reduce the cost of everything needed to fit a tank.
2. buff tanks to actually make them worth their cost

Again, you aren't grasping the point of my post.

Tanks hate the fact that 1 AV can completely destroy their tank, or make them completely useless .... which is false.

My only point, and argument.

Edit - When concerning properly fitted tanks. cause we all know theres a huge gap between starting out tanking with MLT and no resistance skills, and a properly skilled and fitted tank.

i like ted

I know from experience that is not the case going against void. My advice is do not use swarms at all, don't bring in any vehicles, get a sniper rifle and contact grenades and kill his death squad and stay away from the front lines no matter what.

This guy is just a idiot. Probably missed all his shots. Because what I read her is some how Ted has so much skill he can dual tank his tanks with armor and shield. He took out his shields in 5 shots then ted someone how can fit armor mods to force 3 shots to almost take out his armor.

Ya this guy just sucks with a forge and probably can not hit a damn mountain if it was 2 feet in front of him.

oh yea, Duran Lex go back to COD, scrub.... sorry I had to lol

COUNTER REDLINE RAIL SNIPE !!!

you know from experience that that's not the right way to kill me?


...holy **** I never knew there was a certain way to get me to die lol

I know from experience that losing 2 incubus, 1 soma and a **** load of swarm av suits cost alot of isk. I'm not dissing you or anything.