And a single tank dictating the entire flow of the battlefield, because i was the sole AVer trying to take him out....ISN'T game breaking as well?

Yup, I see these kinds of tankers all the time, and I always laugh when I see one of them QQ in the forums about their poor tank dying to militia swarms.. LOL, right.

I think a lot of them just have an agenda going, QQ as much as they can (even though they are far from UP), and get buffed even more, to make them invincible like they want to be.

If these std tanks can do what they do and take the beating they can take... just imagine when these turkeys get their proto tanks in 1.5 (along with a likely AV nerf due to all their QQ). It's going to be Chromosome tanks all over again, only destroyed by several dedicated squads of proto AV doing constant damage in a short period of time... otherwise they are invincible.

Damn tank scrubs, I can only hope in the future we get vehicle-free modes. I like to shoot infantry, not try to shoot infantry while simultaneously getting mauled by a tank, then switching to AV only to get mauled by infantry while I try to shoot the tank.

that's not game breaking, that's just what happens when there is no AV on the enemy team to counter us.

at the attitude you have, I have come to realize that you think 3 people required to take one thing out makes that think OP, but its not, its just too team oriented for you to grasp it.. iv recently started rolling in a teamlike spirit and I don't die as often anymore, maybe you should give it a try since all your doing is trying to solo us like scrubby little infantry

Yet when there's an entire team of AV countering your tanks, its OP? i don't understand such logic.

Obviously 1 AVer isn't destroying an entire team of tanks, yet i see so many posts saying 1 AV can take out properly fitted tanks like pinatas.

well... hes obviously NOT a scrub tanker, we all know that now lol

by the rate of things, nobody new will want to spec into tanks because its still the most hated and nerfed class in the game.

Again, you aren't grasping the point of my post.

Tanks hate the fact that 1 AV can completely destroy their tank, or make them completely useless .... which is false.

My only point, and argument.

Edit - When concerning properly fitted tanks. cause we all know theres a huge gap between starting out tanking with MLT and no resistance skills, and a properly skilled and fitted tank.

errrrrr... lolderpships?

at the attitude you have, I have come to realize that you think 3 people required to take one thing out makes that think OP, but its not, its just too team oriented for you to grasp it.. iv recently started rolling in a teamlike spirit and I don't die as often anymore, maybe you should give it a try since all your doing is trying to solo us like scrubby little infantry

So since you don't die as much when rolling properly with a team/squad, then tanks and AV are fine right?

This just became another bullshit "A fully specced AVer cannot solo kill a tank, even though I'm claiming they have the ability to easily kill said tank solo" thread thanks to you die hard god machines.

Jesus, no wonder Wang got fed up with you *******.

Everyone single one of you "vet" tankers will quit when patch 1.5 releases, because it wont be the god mode you wanted back.

/thread on my part

So since you don't die as much when rolling properly with a team/squad, then tanks and AV are fine right?

the state of the game, there are NO advanced or prototype tanks to deal with advanced and prototype AV, so yeah this game is terribly broken on vehicle balance.

This just became another bullshit "A fully specced AVer cannot solo kill a tank, even though I'm claiming they have the ability to easily kill said tank solo" thread thanks to you die hard god machines.

Jesus, no wonder Wang got fed up with you *******.

Everyone single one of you "vet" tankers will quit when patch 1.5 releases, because it wont be the god mode you wanted back.

/thread on my part

Advanced and proto are the only effective AV against std tanks (adv swarms are garbage, only adv forge is worthwhile)... that alone should say something. Just imagine if the OP was using std AV to try to take out teds tank... he could have spent all night shooting him and nothing would have ever happened.

Also the op had used proto forge and yet he didn't make a dent. Which is BS. Once your invincible noob-proto tanks arrive, there will be nothing in the game powerful enough to take them out unless half the team is using proto AV and is focused 100% on one proto tank.

Advanced and proto are the only effective AV against std tanks (adv swarms are garbage, only adv forge is worthwhile)... that alone should say something. Just imagine if the OP was using std AV to try to take out teds tank... he could have spent all night shooting him and nothing would have ever happened.

Also the op had used proto forge and yet he didn't make a dent. Which is BS. Once your invincible noob-proto tanks arrive, there will be nothing in the game powerful enough to take them out unless half the team is using proto AV and is focused 100% on one proto tank.

not in the slightest, there are still major things that aren't right with the balance, however those only make up part of the balance.

certain subjects of this imbalance are quite obvious:

no advanced or prototype tanks. - Uh, the std ones you turkeys use are powerful enough and are already almost invincible.
invisible swarms and infantry. - For being invisible, it's amazing you tankers sure know what direction to hide and rep in
horrible rendering. - Explain.
core mechanics. - Infantry have crap core mechanics too, next.
AV convenience when it comes to AV grenades. etc etc. - If I choose to use Av nades I give up my regular nades, which I rely on greatly. Also AV nades vs a well fitted tank usually results in a suicide of the person trying to get close enough to throw those nades.

the only thing that would be beneficial in starting the overhaul of this imbalance would be to bring in advanced and prototype tanks.
only then could we begin, otherwise wed be back to where we are now.

and squads are fine il admit, but they aren't ideal for survival, especially if your squad doesn't care about your tank nor does your team which is what happens 95% of the time.

tanks need lone survivability, otherwise theres no incentive to skill into them other than waving the currently biggest weapon around pointing it at your enemy's faces

You ask for adv and proto tanks, yet somehow these std tanks are doing just fine against proto AV. We see it happen all the time, so you should try to up your game and become a better tanker rather than ask for buffs that aren't needed.

you missed the part where I said that the balancing would be at its best IF IT WERE TO BEGIN WHEN ADVANCED AND PROTOTYPE TANKS WERE GIVING TO GO AGAINST THE ADVANCED AND PROTOTYPE AV.

imho standard tanks should be soloed by prototype AV only (and occasionally, AVers that are very strategic), but right now, we have nothing else but standard so yeah, standard needs to be on prototype level in order to survive the current state that we are in because we have nothing in the same tire as prototype or advanced.

once advanced and prototype tanks are given, all the stats should be reset to 0 and rebuilt from scratch based on the effectiveness of each item.

if that happens, then we would finally have balance where AV is not too powerful against vehicles and tanks are not the tanks of chromosome yet not the laughing stocks they are right now

I said i was done with this thread...but god damn i looked back at this thread and saw a red flag.

So you feel that it should take at the least, 3 AVers to take out a tank...

but you want to have the ability to solo the entire playfield? Are you ******* serious?

Yea man...you are ALL about the balance.

look at my conversation with wolf saber, if you are able to read that is

I'm looking at your conversation now.

Saying it should take 3 AV to take out a tank, yet a tank should be able to solo is as biased as you can ******* get.