I mean, if that is the way we're going to go about things, how much? I'm interested in the specifics. I've been thinking about this for a while and kept forgetting to ask, but reading that forge nerf thread made me remember and i'll just forget if I don't do it now.

Any super tankers around to give me an estimate? Before the vehicle balance patch rolls in and makes it irrelevant?

Yeah, but how exactly do we go about that? How many more slots? How much more CPU/PG? How much more basic EHP? Built in damage resistance?

7 high/low 4high/low depending on type with 20-40% pg/cpu buff at least thats my opinion.

7 high/low 4high/low depending on type with 20-40% pg/cpu buff at least thats my opinion.

Proto tank = three people with proto AV to take down. It very well coordinated two people, but it should be very difficult.

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that would be ok if you would need 3 people to actually drive a tank and as long this is not the ture a single AV weapon should be enough to scare the tank away with continous fire which is the case with the current HAVs actually.

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Stop.

The answer OP, is that it wouldn't have to be much stronger, if the standard AV and tanks were weaker ^_^ Or it would be a lot stronger if the Proto AV was stronger.

It shouldn't take 3 AVers to kill a Tank, the argument is flawed. It should take a single good AVer with the right AV to combat a single good tanker, if the AVers are bad it'll take more.

Yah, I'll agree with that when it costs 2 mil ISK to fit a suit with AV weapons, or proto tanks cost 150k ISK when fully outfitted. Now, quite being so ridiculous.

Proto tank = three people with proto AV to take down. It very well coordinated two people, but it should be very difficult.

For shield 6 high, 3 low (4 would be insane) 15% more hp,10% resistance for shields and skill
for pro tanks, 5% more pg and cpu,and range per lvl

One cost 2 mil isk. same for armour tanks,.

With the proto-AV we have now, what would the stats of a proto-tank be?

That's what i'm asking.

I'd happily pay 10mil a tank for 7/4 layout

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Stop.

The answer OP, is that it wouldn't have to be much stronger, if the standard AV and tanks were weaker ^_^ Or it would be a lot stronger if the Proto AV was stronger.

It shouldn't take 3 AVers to kill a Tank, the argument is flawed. It should take a single good AVer with the right AV to combat a single good tanker, if the AVers are bad it'll take more.

I'm sure you would, OP Tank :P

Like I said I'll agree with that when the AVers start paying over two mil ISK per AV fit. You want to go that route I'm all for it.

Basic - 5/2

Advanced - 6/3

Proto - 7/4

CPU/PG increase by 25%

Maybe also base HP increase by 25% also

Overall should take 2/3 proto AV to take down a proto HAV

why do you even post if you dont understand the basics? do you like to make yourself look stupid?

again for you, isk never was the primary balance factor for raw strength. a tank offers the team something that nothing else is able to do thus the cost is well justified. if 2m isk is a problem for you then dont drive a tank (rule #1 of eve, dont use what you cant afford to lose). requiring a 3 people to take down a tank would mean instant win for the team with more tanks because it changes the game into a 15vs13, 14vs10, 13vs7 etc.. (3 people busy to take care of one tank). it would change the game into tanks 514 sooner or later. your arguments will matter as soon as you understand this and wake up from your tunnelvision trance.

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that would be ok if you would need 3 people to actually drive a tank and as long this is not the ture a single AV weapon should be enough to scare the tank away with continous fire which is the case with the current HAVs actually.

or skills could play a larger part in tanks and would stack with the other occupants in the tank so instead of passengers being a nuisance the drivers would now flock to the tanks channels for AFK gunners.

I think it's a bad way to look at it, reduce price of vehicles/increase price of AV

5:2 - 1 Standard AVer, 2 if players are bad or Pilot is good
5:3 - 1 Advanced AVer, 2 if players are bad or Pilot is good
6:3 - 1 Prototype AVer, 2 if players are bad or Pilot is good

Make AV cost similar prices to Turrets

Fixed.

Or pilot suits for passengers adding additional bonuses?

Give two types of bonus on the suit stats

Pilot: Bonus here
Passenger: Bonus here

So three people in a tank, you get the pilot and two passenger bonuses? :D

Nope

1 AV player? **** no

I have to have a 2nd person watching my back half the time, i use teamwork in a tank even tho infantry tryhards wont accept it

Why should they be able to solo my proto tank if its fully fitted? shouldnt AV use teamwork?

Also the slot layouts suck, 1h/l slot per meta jump is good