Every FPS Developer ALWAYS changes stats for balancing purposes. You people need to grow up. The last respec was needed to because of a change in the skill tree. There is no change in the skill tree this time, only stats. So either stop the QQing and leave or MTFU. No player with real skills need to hear that your clutch suit and gun got nerfed so your going to leave with your BFF.

And every FPS developer has provided a means for players to adapt to the changes they make.

In dust? You get complete silence from CCP and HTFU from the community.

Every FPS Developer ALWAYS changes stats for balancing purposes. You people need to grow up. The last respec was needed to because of a change in the skill tree. There is no change in the skill tree this time, only stats. So either stop the QQing and leave or MTFU. No player with real skills need to hear that your clutch suit and gun got nerfed so your going to leave with your BFF.

And every FPS developer has provided a means for players to adapt to the changes they make.

In dust? You get complete silence from CCP and HTFU from the community.

That's horseshit. There is a game called BF3, and in this game there was a gun called the USAS-12( U SUK AT SHOOTING) which was nerfed through the earth. The dev never provided a means for players to adapt to the changes of that gun. Did you know what happened? It was never used again, and the only time you did see that gun, a SKILLED player was using it.

Why doesn't anyone wait until this game has all the content patched in as well as stats balanced. Is CCP really supposed to give out respec's everytime they make miniscule changes like this?

These things happen to every game, and the minute MR. KDR thinks they can't adapt because the upcoming changes aren't going to make him godly anymore, he jumps to the forums to cry and say he's leaving.

I play Amarr and the changes to the logistics suit had me reevaluate what I was going to have to give up. Now most of my modules have to be basic/advanced if I want to add a sidearm and a 3rd equipment. The extra PG doesn't help either. Yeah yeah the Amarr got a much needed buff, but caldari had to be nerfed somehow along with the flaylock and TAC AR. Those 3 set ups were god mode and you can't deny that.

wasting a few dollars is nowhere near as aggravating then wasting a months worth of time to grind for something that eventually is rendered useless.

planetside2: "oh my favorite gun just got nerfed, better throw my money at the game for the next FOTM"

Dust514: "Oh, my highly speced suit was just rendered useless, welp... there goes a month of my time"

Most people do pubstomp ya, and its a damn big problem for noobies and unfortunately it makes a cycle that everyone does once they attain proto, yet for this reason you troll the forums and slam people asking for a respec? Last i checked it was you people, who have cried about nerfing everything in sight who have had a stranglehold on dev decisions. We're constantly ignored as people like you troll the forums posting your opinion over & over. How many times have you denied people asking for respecs today? I've seen you on just about every respec thread being a complete Ahole

Players "wasted" SP to bandwagon on the next OP item. First it was the TAR, then it was the cal-logi's super shields, now its the flaylock. It was the player's fault for investing SP with the intention to exploit an item.

Did those players who use the gun grind for one month to be able to use ONLY THAT GUN? No? Well it is a bad comparison, isn't it.

See, your wrong again and pulling the old "SP" card out. Every FPS shooter nowadays has some type of grind to unlock something, the only difference in dust is you spend SP to get that particular item. It may not be as long as dust but there is still a grind.

So......what was that about comparison?

Did he say it doesn't appeal to the new bros? How is that possible when everybody started at the bottom at one point of time. Listen, when I first set my boots off to become a merc in New Eden, I got my butt handed to me on a silver platter with Quafe to help wash it down.

Did I stop? No. So yea, it does appeal to newbros. How could you say something so ignorant? It takes some fortitude to keep going against you "vets" who decide to pick on newbies who come out in the militia default fits and run across you proto pub stomping "vets" who are complaining about a "broken" game that yall demand change from with threats to leave. what a mind eff.

You are certainly most welcome to your opinion. But to take such an arrogant stance on the matter is absolutely absurd sir. I am appalled by your sentiments. Vets been saying they are leaving for the longest. None of those bingo night players has left yet.

And you know what? Dust 514 keeps on trucking along...with or without the "vets". Heck, it's time for some new "vets". They are just around the corner.

Why not just wait until the next major build update? Skill tree needs work, as in making it into an actual skill tree and not linear SP sinks, and bonuses across the board are probably going to be addressed. It's only a matter of time.

Why not just wait until the next major build update? Skill tree needs work, as in making it into an actual skill tree and not linear SP sinks, and bonuses across the board are probably going to be addressed. It's only a matter of time.

That's exactly my point. Every time CCP makes changes to balance the game people are going to come back to these forums and QQ about it saying CCP is bunch of $#!+ dev. I say wait until everything is fixed, all content is in and then ask for respecs. Right now asking for respecs because of 1 suit is ridiculous.

I definitely would agree, however i think we need a respec option sooner than later because many people are leaving, like nao-
otherwise id say ya stick it out til all the major contents released and balance is good then do a final respec. Unfortunately this is all supposed to be SOON tm and players are fed up of waiting for things we've been promised since closed beta and still dont even have a rough timeframe on.

One thing that pisses people off more than anything is devaluing SP. Whether this comes in the form of nerfs, or higher sp requirements for skills or anything of the like. Most people i know left this game PRIMARILY because at launch the SP requirements were so high they couldn't skill into what they had before. I knew an eve player that quit because overnight the SP requirements for his shield modules went from 4 to 5. He didnt know that it was a "fix" and didnt care. in thier minds CCP was devaluing our SP, our game time, our work. Others quit because literally the stats and bonuses of items they specced into, using SP they paid money for boosters to get, were literally changed. Without thier consent, and of course, without a respec option.

So they quit. End of story. The games bazillion inherent flaws were just icing on the cake causing them to leave. CCP you have nerfed into oblivion countless things, and caused Most of the people that play this game to simply quit to stop taking your BS, and BS of QQers on these forums.

I have no doubt you will not provide a respecs in the near future. And because of this, even more of the tiny playerbase is going to leave. The game will die.

I suggest a respec, and do it quick, despite what the trolls on these forums say, because otherwise i literally cannot see dust recovering from its current situation.

Me? Ya im one of the most active players on this game. Got 15million SP. Guess what? No respec? Then im gone too. And i know a HELL of a lot of your most active players & vets thinking the same thing as me, well the ones that didnt quit in the last few weeks of course.

CCP you've listed to the loudest whiners on the forums for awhile now. Look wheres it gotten ya.

Do something and do it quick. Cus your playerbase sure as hell aint happy.

wasting a few dollars is nowhere near as aggravating then wasting a months worth of time to grind for something that eventually is rendered useless.

planetside2: "oh my favorite gun just got nerfed, better throw my money at the game for the next FOTM"

Dust514: "Oh, my highly speced suit was just rendered useless, welp... there goes a month of my time"

You literally have no ground to stand on with that argument IWS. You are a terrible player, and I have roflstomped you every single time I've played against you in instant battles.

You wouldn't last a second in PC against some of the opponents I've faced as part of PFBHz and TP.

You cannot say you don't need proto gear in this game, not when you're opponents are rocking all proto and playing as hard as they can.

You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here.

your comments make you look like a POS ... who are you to say who is and isn't good.... and why would you feel the need to pull that card even if its true? shame on you....

everything you say now is invalid imo cause you seem like an elitist and a bully.... I have no time for either...

The biggest whiners are clearly those asking for repecs, and the AR nerf brigade.

When i started this game i thought it was full of bs, it had way too long grinding times, it had bugs up the wazoo, and the game itself simply was not as fun as other shooters, the only reason i stayed was because i sold most of my games and didnt have an FPS. I now hear the exact same complaints from the guys in team chat that quit after a day. And yes those vets HAVE left, not only do i know around 40-50 people that i use to squad with that havent even turned dust on in the last....mm around a month id say? Mainly since the new build, but the ACTUAL PLAYER NUMBERS are dropping. Take a look. We've went from 9000+ at the start of the build to around 5000 now. The stats are undeniable.

One thing that pisses people off more than anything is devaluing SP. Whether this comes in the form of nerfs, or higher sp requirements for skills or anything of the like. Most people i know left this game PRIMARILY because at launch the SP requirements were so high they couldn't skill into what they had before. I knew an eve player that quit because overnight the SP requirements for his shield modules went from 4 to 5. He didnt know that it was a "fix" and didnt care. in thier minds CCP was devaluing our SP, our game time, our work. Others quit because literally the stats and bonuses of items they specced into, using SP they paid money for boosters to get, were literally changed. Without thier consent, and of course, without a respec option.

So they quit. End of story. The games bazillion inherent flaws were just icing on the cake causing them to leave. CCP you have nerfed into oblivion countless things, and caused Most of the people that play this game to simply quit to stop taking your BS, and BS of QQers on these forums.

I have no doubt you will not provide a respecs in the near future. And because of this, even more of the tiny playerbase is going to leave. The game will die.

I suggest a respec, and do it quick, despite what the trolls on these forums say, because otherwise i literally cannot see dust recovering from its current situation.

Me? Ya im one of the most active players on this game. Got 15million SP. Guess what? No respec? Then im gone too. And i know a HELL of a lot of your most active players & vets thinking the same thing as me, well the ones that didnt quit in the last few weeks of course.

CCP you've listed to the loudest whiners on the forums for awhile now. Look wheres it gotten ya.

Do something and do it quick. Cus your playerbase sure as hell aint happy.

Yea and you have an application that keeps track of that. Stop it. Stop it now. It's always one of you, either on forums or on youtube, defending to your last breath that the ACTUAL PLAYER NUMBERS are dropping. The whole irony of it all is that you guys talk poop all day in the forums. Fine. People enjoying Dust are still populating the servers.

You mercenaries have grown to become soft as daisy petals. Throw some dirt on it and stop being a Nancy.

Those same guys you chatted with would be the same guys I don't talk to. "Hey everybody is jumping off the bridge, including the vets...they must be on to something" LOL! Yea right, okay. Go right ahead. I will take the vets spot with no problem. I preferred a challenge. But if old men are willing to roll over and die...so be it, grandpapas.

your comments make you look like a POS ... who are you to say who is and isn't good.... and why would you feel the need to pull that card even if its true? shame on you....

everything you say now is invalid imo cause you seem like an elitist and a bully.... I have no time for either...

Oddly enough I've never cried for a nerf, but yes, I DO feel strongly about respecs. Yes, if you keep making threads on it I'll likely show up. And yes, I'll continue to argue against them. I don't think they have a purpose here and I think they ruin our progression system. I have yet to see an argument against that, only claims that people will get bored and leave or that people shouldn't train with balance in mind. Personally I think FOTM chasing needs to end as soon as possible. Denying respecs is a strong step towards that.

I think I've been rather fair and tempered with most of my posts, but if it's being an a-hole, so be it. You are not the only one passionate here.