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Posted - 2013.07.20 04:59:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For me the average gun takes me two months to unlock in planetside as a casual player.
In Dust 514 I had just about every gun type, base suit, module, base vehicle, unlocked by week one after reset.
Good players don't need prototype gear.
Also I am probably a different sort of player, I generally gravitate towards weapons that I feel better in use, for example my favorite type of sniper rifle in most games is generally the closest thing to a bolt action rifle they have because the way the function usually is a very peculiar. I just find it upsetting that they would go to lengths to nerf a sniper rifle to do less damage than some small caliber pistols in that game. You literally have no ground to stand on with that argument IWS. You are a terrible player, and I have roflstomped you every single time I've played against you in instant battles. You wouldn't last a second in PC against some of the opponents I've faced as part of PFBHz and TP. You cannot say you don't need proto gear in this game, not when you're opponents are rocking all proto and playing as hard as they can.
Tell 'em Z.
I notice that almost all of the players that say "NO MOAR RESPECZ EVARR" are bad players, noobs, and CCP fanboys. There's a reason the oldest players who were loyal to this game for a solid year quit- it doesn't get better and their advice was ignored. Now we're seeing the players who started playing near the end of the closed beta and the beginning of the open beta getting rather bothered, as it seems that the game took 4 steps back since Chromosome; as if they ignored all of our feedback.
I love this game and I've spent a lot of money on it, but I think I speak for a lot of the older players when I say: "Battlefield 4 looks pretty sweet." I want this game to succeed because I'm good at it and I love playing it, but CCP isn't making progress since Chromosome. Seriously, just bring us back to Chromosome, completely, and re-evaluate from there. It was an awesome build and was pretty balanced.
Let me inform you of my situation:
I specced into tanks, mass drivers, and the callogi. I specced into tanks in the beginning of Uprising because they were pretty good in Chromo, but they turned out to be absolutely awful due to having literally everything nerfed. So they buffed out resistance to 10% with a million SP investment and buffed infantry wqeapons 10% for free. Then they buffed our HP about 1000 points and that was fine bc I specced into logi lavs which were finally financially beneficial, if not boring; until i realized that everyone would use super lavs which meant everyone would spec into proto AV to counter them. Now i can't tank at all because everyone has proto AV in pubs AND pc. Then i specced into the callogi mass driver right before they announced the nerf- i spent 6 million SP getting that suit. Now I have a crap suit that i dont want anymore and crap tanks that arent worth their huge price tag (another 6 mil). All i have left is the llav, but that will be the next thing to get nerfed, after the flaylock- then i will have no effective suit and i will probably quit because i would have wasted hundreds of dollars and several months playing a game that punished me for doing well. I would like a respec- id even pay for it so i can have fun, again, but CCP insists on not letting us, so eventually, everyone will be bored with their current fit, and without vets encouraging new players to keep playing this game, nobody will stay and the game will die. CCP has to realize that if they dont appease their core audience, they will never aquire more players because we are the guys buying six months of boosters in advance, blogging about dust, and telling our friends to play- not casual CoD bois who are just waiting for bf4 to come out.
That's all I have.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:01:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Planetside 2 does this all the time though and in that game people are encouraged to buy new guns all the time. Yea, but you cant just buy a pack of instant Sp in Dust, you have to work for everything. Boosters just let you work a little less. in planetaide 2, you can just throw money at the game, and instantly get what you want. You can't do that in Dust. That's a good thing... ITs not P2W
Winning = fun
losing = unfun
therefore...
paying = winning
wasting time = unfun
so....
i'd rather pay and have fun then waste my time and not have fun. |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:12:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL, these threads always start the same "I know somebody who quit because of no respec" Oh boo hoo. No one cares. We still enjoying killing clones in New Eden.
You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here. |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:29:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL, these threads always start the same "I know somebody who quit because of no respec" Oh boo hoo. No one cares. We still enjoying killing clones in New Eden. You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here. I doubt the vets amount to even 15% of the playerbase.
Oh, my bad, i forgot to account for the other 85 percent that are noobs in npc corps shooting at the mmcc because THEY DONT GET THE GAME BC IT IS BAD. they dont come back the next day and only came here bc it is free. i talk to noobs every day in ambushes and they all say the same thing: "This game is too hard. I die all the time. Why does only 1 fit work?" All i can say is "this game has potential...POTENTIAL!? i cant even lie to them, anymore because all my fav things got nerfed. when this game does fail, all the vets and noobs who saw it coming and all the CCP fanbois and devs will say this. |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:36:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL, these threads always start the same "I know somebody who quit because of no respec" Oh boo hoo. No one cares. We still enjoying killing clones in New Eden. You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here. Oh please. The vets are just as arrogant and self entitled like 13 year old bratty gamers who whine and take to internet petitions to get some silly agenda going. Yea we will have a game. And you will return. And we will knock your dusty butt out of your wheelchair you old man. And you not stomping anything...anywhere. Can you say, delusions of grandeur?
Can you say, "supported this game on hope and skill boosters, alone, for a year and questioning CCP's resolve just like Sony is?" You all realize that if you **** off the biggest long-time supporters of Dust, then Sony will notice and cut CCP off because they dont understand console gamers. There is plenty of bad press from noobs playing this game- imagine what bad press from hundreds of vets would do. If I were CCP, i'd listen to its core group who love this game and want it to succeed.
Do you honestly think Dust has ANY chance of competing with bf4 or destiny in it's current state? |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:14:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way.
The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand.
I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game.
For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. The only CPM member with half a clue. Go figure he's the only one that has been successful....
I wish he posted more. Jenza never plays Dust, Iron Wolf is a troll (sometimes he's funny though, so forgive), Nova Knife...well it's hard to say because he's almost as quiet as Jenza, but his posts are mostly unbiased to any specific group. Can someone remind me why Jenza is a CPM in the first place? Can ANYONE remember the last time she said anything useful. I mean, you can hate on Wolf all you want but at least we know he exists. If only we could combine the logic of Kain with the presence of Wolf. :( Then we'd have a CPM that'd get **** done. |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:51:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Every FPS Developer ALWAYS changes stats for balancing purposes. You people need to grow up. The last respec was needed to because of a change in the skill tree. There is no change in the skill tree this time, only stats. So either stop the QQing and leave or MTFU. No player with real skills need to hear that your clutch suit and gun got nerfed so your going to leave with your BFF.
And every FPS developer has provided a means for players to adapt to the changes they make. In dust? You get complete silence from CCP and HTFU from the community. That's horseshit. There is a game called BF3, and in this game there was a gun called the USAS-12( U SUK AT SHOOTING) which was nerfed through the earth. The dev never provided a means for players to adapt to the changes of that gun. Did you know what happened? It was never used again, and the only time you did see that gun, a SKILLED player was using it. Why doesn't anyone wait until this game has all the content patched in as well as stats balanced. Is CCP really supposed to give out respec's everytime they make miniscule changes like this? These things happen to every game, and the minute MR. KDR thinks they can't adapt because the upcoming changes aren't going to make him godly anymore, he jumps to the forums to cry and say he's leaving. I play Amarr and the changes to the logistics suit had me reevaluate what I was going to have to give up. Now most of my modules have to be basic/advanced if I want to add a sidearm and a 3rd equipment. The extra PG doesn't help either. Yeah yeah the Amarr got a much needed buff, but caldari had to be nerfed somehow along with the flaylock and TAC AR. Those 3 set ups were god mode and you can't deny that.
Did those players who use the gun grind for one month to be able to use ONLY THAT GUN? No? Well it is a bad comparison, isn't it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:05:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For me the average gun takes me two months to unlock in planetside as a casual player.
In Dust 514 I had just about every gun type, base suit, module, base vehicle, unlocked by week one after reset.
Good players don't need prototype gear.
Also I am probably a different sort of player, I generally gravitate towards weapons that I feel better in use, for example my favorite type of sniper rifle in most games is generally the closest thing to a bolt action rifle they have because the way the function usually is a very peculiar. I just find it upsetting that they would go to lengths to nerf a sniper rifle to do less damage than some small caliber pistols in that game. You literally have no ground to stand on with that argument IWS. You are a terrible player, and I have roflstomped you every single time I've played against you in instant battles. You wouldn't last a second in PC against some of the opponents I've faced as part of PFBHz and TP. You cannot say you don't need proto gear in this game, not when you're opponents are rocking all proto and playing as hard as they can. your comments make you look like a POS ... who are you to say who is and isn't good.... and why would you feel the need to pull that card even if its true? shame on you.... everything you say now is invalid imo cause you seem like an elitist and a bully.... I have no time for either... As someone who played in squads with ZDubb when we were in PFBHz, I am going to stop you right there. ZDubb is anything but a bully. In fact whenever we had a random with us, he and his pal Spinner were always willing to help the random out.
I was there and he does not lie. In fact, almost all of the vets help noobs out, now that i think of it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:13:00 -
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That's it. Defiance is full of complete idiots. Nothing they say makes sense.
9000 players on Uprising 1.0 release.
5000 the last day that we could see the numbers of players online.
I wouldn't be suprised if the numbers are around 3000, right now.
I finally understand how the Imperfects felt when I started playing this game in the beta and why I got trolled all the time- I sounded like all these guys in Defiance do, right now and i apologize for subjecting the other vets to it.
Dear players of Defiance, do you even remember a time when there was only 1 true OP weapon in the game? Do you even know who any of us going against your stupid ideas are? We are the guys who kept this game going for the past sixth months, and replaced to guys who only lasted the six months before that. It is now you're turn. i do not worry, though, because you will someday soon realize that you are ruining your game with your bad ideas. Then you will all quit and tell the new-noobs to stop being stupid while CCP ignores your amazing ideas that you have because you have seen what your bad ideas of Uprising did to the new build. |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:15:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:I have a funny feeling that sony will cut ties with ccp. They did it with ligjtbox the dev thst made starhawk. This game is not making money, and the playerbase keeps shrinking. No respecs lack of content, constant tweaks are killing this dieing game.
CCP needs to put Dust on PC and just forget about the console platform. I love CCP and i quit this game makes no sense. Video games are meant to be fun when did it turn into a job?
The grinding got to me i have 10 mill SP and im bored respecs would make the game fresh and fun. It will also help CCP with constant tweaks.
If they break something no biggie i could just respec into something else.
Stop saying smart stuff; idiots are watching and CCP is in bed with idiots (points at broken game). |
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