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hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 34	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:25:00 - [121] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: hamual jackson wrote: Besides a respec will come again soon enough, CCP basiscally state that logistic suit bonus are basically temporary. So anyone speccing into a logo could potentially not like the choice they chose. The ones crying no respec will soon join the masses asking for one when they become effected as well The thing is that the bonuses are temporary. CCP have said that they're going to make new bonuses for logis. So you just repeated what i said.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1091	Posted - 2013.07.21 01:28:00 - [122] - Quote KING SALASI wrote: I have a funny feeling that sony will cut ties with ccp. They did it with ligjtbox the dev thst made starhawk. This game is not making money, and the playerbase keeps shrinking. No respecs lack of content, constant tweaks are killing this dieing game. CCP needs to put Dust on PC and just forget about the console platform. I love CCP and i quit this game makes no sense. Video games are meant to be fun when did it turn into a job? The grinding got to me i have 10 mill SP and im bored respecs would make the game fresh and fun. It will also help CCP with constant tweaks. If they break something no biggie i could just respec into something else. So true... hot fixes, client patches, etc all so easy on the PC. You could take advantage of the platform to bring updated graphics and 32v32 gameplay to the universe. (and have more than 512MB of shared RAM lulz). The UI would work so much better with a mouse. Want real connectivity with eve? Most of them run third party voice chat and don't want to chat using our in game system (which team chat doesn't even let you talk to pilots!) Could finally have true m/kb support... imagine if modules.equipment could be bound to 1-2-3-4? raw mouse input aiming!! /drool. Dust 514... a high potential PC shooter squandered on the POS3.
Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.07.21 02:54:00 - [123] - Quote With all this respec waffle happening again I'm beginning to have an idea how Bill Murray's character felt in Groundhog Day.... Same **** happening over and over again...
Skipper Jones Molon Labe. League of Infamy 473	Posted - 2013.07.21 17:49:00 - [124] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Planetside 2 does this all the time though and in that game people are encouraged to buy new guns all the time. Yea, but you cant just buy a pack of instant Sp in Dust, you have to work for everything. Boosters just let you work a little less. in planetaide 2, you can just throw money at the game, and instantly get what you want. You can't do that in Dust. That's a good thing... ITs not P2W Winning = fun losing = unfun therefore... paying = winning wasting time = unfun so.... i'd rather pay and have fun then waste my time and not have fun. paying=/=winning. If spending your money is fun to you, go right ahead.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 156	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:02:00 - [125] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Planetside 2 does this all the time though and in that game people are encouraged to buy new guns all the time. You're right, we should go play PS2 for a while and come back.... maybe. On a serious note, whether or not PS2 engage in the same practice it has no bearing on whether or not it is right for Dust 514. I think most players don't mind things being tweaked but CCP have made sweeping changes without much warning and have never clarified the respec policy. If they just came out tomorrow and said, "From now on we will only be offering SP for individual skills when those skills or core items associated with those skills are directly changed." then things wouldn't be so bad. As usual, it's a complete breakdown of communications that is at the heart of the issues with player-dev relations.
Cosgar ParagonX 2915	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:06:00 - [126] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Planetside 2 does this all the time though and in that game people are encouraged to buy new guns all the time. You're right, we should go play PS2 for a while and come back.... maybe. On a serious note, whether or not PS2 engage in the same practice it has no bearing on whether or not it is right for Dust 514. I think most players don't mind things being tweaked but CCP have made sweeping changes without much warning and have never clarified the respec policy. If they just came out tomorrow and said, "From now on we will only be offering SP for individual skills when those skills or core items associated with those skills are directly changed." then things wouldn't be so bad. As usual, it's a complete breakdown of communications that is at the heart of the issues with player-dev relations. So, everyone butthurt about grinding should go play a game that has even more grinding?
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 101	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:18:00 - [127] - Quote I wouldn't mind having some way to reallocate SP. I never really cared before, I did enjoy building my toon twice in different ways just to do something new. My example right now: Had to take a couple weeks off from the game for work, But got a call from my brother and he wanted to come back and get some games in. His role was pretty much completely removed from the last time he played and was pretty upset, but had some passive SP to play with. I was pretty excited also, I should have some SP to switch to a different weapon and we can "rebuild" our combo back together. Nope I was stuck using the same gun/suit i have been using for months/ or grind/ or pay real money. The resurgence didn't last more than a couple hours, I will wait a few more days until I have the passive to get what i wanted. -If you were wondering about details, Bro was a %100 Lav/Av driver. He doesnt have alot of SP , and rarely gets over 500wp for doing so. (unless there are alot of enemy LAV's for him to clean up. I use a gal logi and a Viziam. Fun combo and I have 12m SP perfecting this setup. Was looking to skill into the Assault scrambler so i could be a bit more versatile on the battle field while min-maxing with my brothers Mass driver.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 22	Posted - 2013.07.21 21:27:00 - [128] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way. The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand. I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game. For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. The only CPM member with half a clue. Exactly.
Thurak1 Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:24:00 - [129] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: One thing that pisses people off more than anything is devaluing SP. Ive been trying to say this same thing. Wasted SP = Waste time... and no one wants to feel their SP is wasted. A game that feels like youre wasting youre time is not fun and if a game isn't fun.. you end up with a playerbase as small as Dust. In before the "NO MOAR RESPECS EVAR" idiots come in here. Players "wasted" SP to bandwagon on the next OP item. First it was the TAR, then it was the cal-logi's super shields, now its the flaylock. It was the player's fault for investing SP with the intention to exploit an item. Yep i feel no pity for people that skilled into the tar after finding out about its incredible advantages. I am betting a lot of people also went out and spent money to have controllers modded too. I dont feel bad for them either.
Thurak1 Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 17	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:36:00 - [130] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way. The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand. I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game. For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. The only CPM member with half a clue. Exactly. Very well written and an excellent point.

Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2632	Posted - 2013.07.21 22:50:00 - [131] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Flint Beastgood III wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way. The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand. I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game. For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for. The only CPM member with half a clue. Exactly. Very well written and an excellent point. I'm completely okay with offering respecs in categories whose gear has been adjusted. I would figure that would be essential once the other Light and Heavy frame are released, since everyone has had to go Amarr just to play Heavies, or Gallente or Minmatar to play Light. The same goes for all races when it comes to only having Caldari and Gallente vehicles as well. The only issue I could ever see would have been with offering a purchasable respec system, especially if it was only available via AURUM purchase. I don't think any of us want to see a game where you can just spam respec tokens so you don't ever have to put any thought into your skill decisions, or that you can pay to fix mistakes that free players can't.
Cobra CLUTCH79 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:18:00 - [132] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Did he say it doesn't appeal to the new bros? How is that possible when everybody started at the bottom at one point of time. Listen, when I first set my boots off to become a merc in New Eden, I got my butt handed to me on a silver platter with Quafe to help wash it down. Did I stop? No. So yea, it does appeal to newbros. How could you say something so ignorant? It takes some fortitude to keep going against you "vets" who decide to pick on newbies who come out in the militia default fits and run across you proto pub stomping "vets" who are complaining about a "broken" game that yall demand change from with threats to leave. what a mind eff. You are certainly most welcome to your opinion. But to take such an arrogant stance on the matter is absolutely absurd sir. I am appalled by your sentiments. Vets been saying they are leaving for the longest. None of those bingo night players has left yet. And you know what? Dust 514 keeps on trucking along...with or without the "vets". Heck, it's time for some new "vets". They are just around the corner. awesome... well said sir..
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 169	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:23:00 - [133] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: The biggest whiners are clearly those asking for repecs, and the AR nerf brigade. Get over your AR hate, you are a scrub who also sucks at the scientific method, we've already peer reviewed your work and absolutely shitted on your methodolgy for data acquisition and the false conclusions that stemmed from them.
Cobra CLUTCH79 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.21 23:31:00 - [134] - Quote I just wish they make the AR's actually sound like assault rifles not bb guns..am i alone on this?? (crickets)
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 4	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:14:00 - [135] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: I am saying it's a waist because you want us to be support medics. I did not spec at all into becoming a nurse. To force me to become one is too costly to just turn around with SP I don't have and spec into that stuff OR a new suit. Either way I will make it work the -20 CPU isn't a big deal and neither is the bonus honestly If I got to I will drop Nanohives and uplinks. I don't usually post, but it seems that you've put on a nurses uniform but don't want to be a nurse. It's the same idea. If you wanted to be a sniper, you don't spec into heavy armor. I only have 7 mil sp and have invested into the playstyle that suits me, assault. I don't have alot of powerful modules, but have been investing into several things to balance my suits weaknesses. I do not however place all my SP into a suit that doesn't compliment my combat style, as I know the logi suits are made for logistics,not frontline combat. I am also happy with my choice as it is what I wanted to play, not because it had a bonus I thought would give me an edge, that's what modules are for. A note to everyone - please specialize into what play style suits you. Do not spec into something so you can stack bonuses, as it will only cause you grief when CCP eventually balances it to reflect its intended usage. This game is still going through growth spurts and will change as a result.
Phantom Vaxer The Generals EoN. 38	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:23:00 - [136] - Quote Well lets see...the game has been stated to last approximately 7 years to completely level up everything and in a beta...do you really think the best option is to make players earn the SP at the gradual pace that they intend? Or boost it so players can more quickly get into skills to test out the skills and equipment.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:23:00 - [137] - Quote CCP response to this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCBOp-4U8OM
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 97	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:24:00 - [138] - Quote why are you guys bumping this pos thread,..
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 492	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:25:00 - [139] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: I am saying it's a waist because you want us to be support medics. I did not spec at all into becoming a nurse. To force me to become one is too costly to just turn around with SP I don't have and spec into that stuff OR a new suit. Either way I will make it work the -20 CPU isn't a big deal and neither is the bonus honestly If I got to I will drop Nanohives and uplinks. I don't usually post, but it seems that you've put on a nurses uniform but don't want to be a nurse. It's the same idea. If you wanted to be a sniper, you don't spec into heavy armor. I only have 7 mil sp and have invested into the playstyle that suits me, assault. I don't have alot of powerful modules, but have been investing into several things to balance my suits weaknesses. I do not however place all my SP into a suit that doesn't compliment my combat style, as I know the logi suits are made for logistics,not frontline combat. I am also happy with my choice as it is what I wanted to play, not because it had a bonus I thought would give me an edge, that's what modules are for. A note to everyone - please specialize into what play style suits you. Do not spec into something so you can stack bonuses, as it will only cause you grief when CCP eventually balances it to reflect its intended usage. This game is still going through growth spurts and will change as a result. Actually heavies are very good as snipers, if you set up equipments on your camp site first of course.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1131	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:49:00 - [140] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: I don't usually post, but it seems that you've put on a nurses uniform but don't want to be a nurse. It's the same idea. If you wanted to be a sniper, you don't spec into heavy armor. I only have 7 mil sp and have invested into the playstyle that suits me, assault. I don't have alot of powerful modules, but have been investing into several things to balance my suits weaknesses. I do not however place all my SP into a suit that doesn't compliment my combat style, as I know the logi suits are made for logistics,not frontline combat. I am also happy with my choice as it is what I wanted to play, not because it had a bonus I thought would give me an edge, that's what modules are for. A note to everyone - please specialize into what play style suits you. Do not spec into something so you can stack bonuses, as it will only cause you grief when CCP eventually balances it to reflect its intended usage. This game is still going through growth spurts and will change as a result. That not fair at all. A lot of people specced into logi suits due to their versatility. We all specced into a suit based on the stats and slots it had, as it suited our playstyle. Just because YOU think that logis aren't supposed to be frontline combatants doesn't mean that they weren't. Now CCP has stated with their new blog that was their intention for these suits. If they want to change the suits... that's totally fine. However, since those suits are no longer what people put their SP into, they should have that SP refunded so they can spec into a new suit that actually does fit their playstyle.

Mintqueer Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2013.07.22 04:59:00 - [141] - Quote Honestly I rather see nobody getting a respec... CCP can leep their respec and use it for the remaining staff in this dead game. If there are no more respecs I hope 3/4 of the population leaves, this game does not deserves any loyalty anymore. They took their core players and tell them to HTFU after ignoring them each time there was a good feedback thread made with facts and backed by data and the perspective of competitive players.
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 4	Posted - 2013.07.22 18:36:00 - [142] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Spectre-M wrote: I don't usually post, but it seems that you've put on a nurses uniform but don't want to be a nurse. It's the same idea. If you wanted to be a sniper, you don't spec into heavy armor. I only have 7 mil sp and have invested into the playstyle that suits me, assault. I don't have alot of powerful modules, but have been investing into several things to balance my suits weaknesses. I do not however place all my SP into a suit that doesn't compliment my combat style, as I know the logi suits are made for logistics,not frontline combat. I am also happy with my choice as it is what I wanted to play, not because it had a bonus I thought would give me an edge, that's what modules are for. A note to everyone - please specialize into what play style suits you. Do not spec into something so you can stack bonuses, as it will only cause you grief when CCP eventually balances it to reflect its intended usage. This game is still going through growth spurts and will change as a result. That not fair at all. A lot of people specced into logi suits due to their versatility. We all specced into a suit based on the stats and slots it had, as it suited our playstyle. Just because YOU think that logis aren't supposed to be frontline combatants doesn't mean that they weren't. Now CCP has stated with their new blog that was their intention for these suits. If they want to change the suits... that's totally fine. However, since those suits are no longer what people put their SP into, they should have that SP refunded so they can spec into a new suit that actually does fit their playstyle. I do think that changing the game mid stride is damaging to player morale. If the changes have changed the role completely, then yeah, thats not fair. I see this game as still in beta, as CCP is dragging its feet. I dont want to see people leave due to the fact that a company hasnt tested what they have released, and im sure youve done enough testing already. I too have experienced some unwanted changes that affected my suits, but i kept those to see if the new changes would affect my role. Logistics is probably the most important role in military functions, but the definition of logistics is more along the lines of resource managment and support, rather than frontline combat. This isnt my opinion, this is the historical use of the the term since the 'War of Independence'. I dont blame you for choosing something you found appealing, i blame CCP for calling a rooster a chicken. id rather you get the respec so you dont leave, instead of leaving you locked into something you dont find fun. I have a nub question, what was change that affects the fitting so much that youd be willing to leave?
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 5	Posted - 2013.07.22 21:13:00 - [143] - Quote http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/ Looking at this it looks like the bonus is actually awesome. It means that you'll have a 25% reduction to shiled recharge delay with lvl 5 into the Cal Logi suit. Combine this with a complex regulator and you'll have a whopping 50% reduction(not including extra regulators with stack penalties). Based of the new stats, that'll be a 2.5/4 second recharge delay. Not bad. I see that it would require a whole new investment (if you dont have regulators), but that doesnt mean you cant still use those complex extenders either. A CPU enhancer will more tham make up for the loss of 20 CPU and allow you to fit better modules in all those slots. Id like to see anyone use this setup and post some feedback about it if they already have it. Also looks like CCP will be doing smaller more rapid updates so we dont have to wait so long for changes. Damn, 2.5/4 is really good, compared to my 5/8.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1163	Posted - 2013.07.22 21:34:00 - [144] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/ Looking at this it looks like the bonus is actually awesome. It means that you'll have a 25% reduction to shiled recharge delay with lvl 5 into the Cal Logi suit. Combine this with a complex regulator and you'll have a whopping 50% reduction(not including extra regulators with stack penalties). Based of the new stats, that'll be a 2.5/4 second recharge delay. Not bad. I see that it would require a whole new investment (if you dont have regulators), but that doesnt mean you cant still use those complex extenders either. A CPU enhancer will more tham make up for the loss of 20 CPU and allow you to fit better modules in all those slots. Id like to see anyone use this setup and post some feedback about it if they already have it. Also looks like CCP will be doing smaller more rapid updates so we dont have to wait so long for changes. Damn, 2.5/4 is really good, compared to my 5/8. They aren't additive, its 25% of the 25%. At regulation 5 its .251.11.25 = 34.3% per complex regulator.
Spectre-M The Generals EoN. 5	Posted - 2013.07.22 22:26:00 - [145] - Quote Lame, so even the bonus from the suit only gives the bonus to the regulator percentage?? that kinda SUCKS. It would seem that the suits bonus should be a direct bonus to the shield reg percentage as in 'addition to'. 25% of the regulator bonus(25%), like you said doesnt do much(under 10%, which is very misleading, as people will think they are getting an additive bonus). I guess the main difference too is that the shield extender is a numerical value, meaning 5% extra shields per level, whereas the regulator is a percentage bonus.
zzZaXxx The Exemplars Top Men. 122	Posted - 2013.07.22 22:26:00 - [146] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Spectre-M wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3/ Looking at this it looks like the bonus is actually awesome. It means that you'll have a 25% reduction to shiled recharge delay with lvl 5 into the Cal Logi suit. Combine this with a complex regulator and you'll have a whopping 50% reduction(not including extra regulators with stack penalties). Based of the new stats, that'll be a 2.5/4 second recharge delay. Not bad. I see that it would require a whole new investment (if you dont have regulators), but that doesnt mean you cant still use those complex extenders either. A CPU enhancer will more tham make up for the loss of 20 CPU and allow you to fit better modules in all those slots. Id like to see anyone use this setup and post some feedback about it if they already have it. Also looks like CCP will be doing smaller more rapid updates so we dont have to wait so long for changes. Damn, 2.5/4 is really good, compared to my 5/8. They aren't additive, its 25% of the 25%. At regulation 5 its .251.11.25 = 34.3% per complex regulator. Two complex regulators with the new bonus will give you only very slightly better delay. And remember, at standard you can only fit one (with equipment)...and you have to fit a CPU mod to be able to use it! FUBAR
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 743	Posted - 2013.07.22 23:23:00 - [147] - Quote Being able to run proto everything kind of defeats the purpose of fitting. They should just give us the fit called I do everything the best way. You can't have it all. You want proto everything and it shouldn't work that way. You should have to run a CPU if you want complex extenders, prototype equipment and a full line of complex regulators. Just because it is top tier doesn't mean that is can fit the best everything all the time.
Failonius Quantum Degeneracy 25	Posted - 2013.07.23 14:52:00 - [148] - Quote It's so nice to see all Dust's players in one thread.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. 88	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:17:00 - [149] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Being able to run proto everything kind of defeats the purpose of fitting. They should just give us the fit called I do everything the best way. You can't have it all. You want proto everything and it shouldn't work that way. You should have to run a CPU if you want complex extenders, prototype equipment and a full line of complex regulators. Just because it is top tier doesn't mean that is can fit the best everything all the time. You cant even do that, pre nerf at Level 2 dropsuit engineering and electronics it takes 2 cpu extenders and 2 PG upgrades to equip 5 complex shield extenders, a duvolle, a proto nanohive, a proto uplink, proto nades and an adv nanite injector. What this nerf of shield tanking does is require the 5 complex extenders to have good health, regulators to make use of the bonus AND cpu extenders to make it possible, this leaves no room for other modules and virtually no room for equipment. They basically said "Ok Your versatility is gone, your module layout is this, and you can't equip good equipment while you do it." In other words? Its a slow, gimped caldari assaul suit now, or a garbage shield logi suit.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 386	Posted - 2013.07.23 15:30:00 - [150] - Quote The problem with respecs is it will make everyone flock to the FOTM and reduce diversity. Im not running logi, im not running flaylocks. Why? Because I know both these things are clearly broken and will be nerfed. Everyone knew that. So if you put your sp into something everyone knew would eventually be nerfed, you were "renting" a short term advantage. Id prefer it this way, where players with half a brain realize that investing in the OP stuff will likely cost them down the road. I could have put my 3x SP into core flaylocks. I would be reaping the rewards right now. But then a month down the road id be all sad that core flaylocks were nerfed and I wasted 700ksp. Anyone who wanted to play front line pew-pew and saw the Logi OP and went that route kind of deserves the payback now. It was obvious that Logi was better at doing the assualt role than the assault and that it wouldnt last. Should have used your head and realized that. Or, if you did, you should have known youd be renting an advantage with your SP until it got nerfed.



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