Tell 'em Z.
I notice that almost all of the players that say "NO MOAR RESPECZ EVARR" are bad players, noobs, and CCP fanboys. There's a reason the oldest players who were loyal to this game for a solid year quit- it doesn't get better and their advice was ignored. Now we're seeing the players who started playing near the end of the closed beta and the beginning of the open beta getting rather bothered, as it seems that the game took 4 steps back since Chromosome; as if they ignored all of our feedback.

I love this game and I've spent a lot of money on it, but I think I speak for a lot of the older players when I say: "Battlefield 4 looks pretty sweet." I want this game to succeed because I'm good at it and I love playing it, but CCP isn't making progress since Chromosome. Seriously, just bring us back to Chromosome, completely, and re-evaluate from there. It was an awesome build and was pretty balanced.

Let me inform you of my situation:

I specced into tanks, mass drivers, and the callogi. I specced into tanks in the beginning of Uprising because they were pretty good in Chromo, but they turned out to be absolutely awful due to having literally everything nerfed. So they buffed out resistance to 10% with a million SP investment and buffed infantry wqeapons 10% for free. Then they buffed our HP about 1000 points and that was fine bc I specced into logi lavs which were finally financially beneficial, if not boring; until i realized that everyone would use super lavs which meant everyone would spec into proto AV to counter them. Now i can't tank at all because everyone has proto AV in pubs AND pc. Then i specced into the callogi mass driver right before they announced the nerf- i spent 6 million SP getting that suit. Now I have a crap suit that i dont want anymore and crap tanks that arent worth their huge price tag (another 6 mil). All i have left is the llav, but that will be the next thing to get nerfed, after the flaylock- then i will have no effective suit and i will probably quit because i would have wasted hundreds of dollars and several months playing a game that punished me for doing well. I would like a respec- id even pay for it so i can have fun, again, but CCP insists on not letting us, so eventually, everyone will be bored with their current fit, and without vets encouraging new players to keep playing this game, nobody will stay and the game will die. CCP has to realize that if they dont appease their core audience, they will never aquire more players because we are the guys buying six months of boosters in advance, blogging about dust, and telling our friends to play- not casual CoD bois who are just waiting for bf4 to come out.

That's all I have.

Night

Yea, but you cant just buy a pack of instant Sp in Dust, you have to work for everything. Boosters just let you work a little less.


in planetaide 2, you can just throw money at the game, and instantly get what you want. You can't do that in Dust.

Agreed, Planetside 2 is a hore.


Munch

LOL, these threads always start the same "I know somebody who quit because of no respec" Oh boo hoo. No one cares. We still enjoying killing clones in New Eden.

You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here.

I doubt the vets amount to even 15% of the playerbase.

You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here.

You and the other 1500 players of Dust when the vets leave? yah, you wont have a game by that time so we'll see you in bf4, CoD, Destiny, and ps2 to stomp you there like we stomp you here.

Besides a respec will come again soon enough, CCP basiscally state that logistic suit bonus are basically temporary. So anyone speccing into a logo could potentially not like the choice they chose. The ones crying no respec will soon join the masses asking for one when they become effected as well

Oh please. The vets are just as arrogant and self entitled like 13 year old bratty gamers who whine and take to internet petitions to get some silly agenda going.

Yea we will have a game. And you will return. And we will knock your dusty butt out of your wheelchair you old man. And you not stomping anything...anywhere.

Can you say, delusions of grandeur?

Trolls, of course. They must not have see dead games, dead games where not even a single match can be filled because the playerbase has simply moved on. We're trying to stop dust from dieing yet these trolls who are so anti-respec are killing the game w/out even knowing it. Its most obviously expressed by the people who say "bye, leave we dont want you then anyways." UMM the games this tiny and you want people to leave? And CCP is listening to you? Well. Now what kind of a predicament are we in here...hmm.

Can you say, "supported this game on hope and skill boosters, alone, for a year and questioning CCP's resolve just like Sony is?" You all realize that if you **** off the biggest long-time supporters of Dust, then Sony will notice and cut CCP off because they dont understand console gamers. There is plenty of bad press from noobs playing this game- imagine what bad press from hundreds of vets would do. If I were CCP, i'd listen to its core group who love this game and want it to succeed.

Do you honestly think Dust has ANY chance of competing with bf4 or destiny in it's current state?

no YOU can't see em. I catch em quiet room every now and then. You know why? Cause people are getting squads together in merc quarters, having a chat or laugh or two.

Yall not trying to stop Dust from dying because all yall do is respond with threats "vets this, vets that". "CCP do this or we would leave" Is that how yall got your mommies and daddies to respond to your spoiled rants? Oh shut the heck up. Getting tired of you old men whining all the time.

It's like you missed your show of the Price is Right and all hell is breaking loose.

Especially you, you've been talking about leaving for how long now? Forums talking about "doom and gloom" and the actual activity on Dust are two different things.

Yet it's vets that are punishing new players the most with pubstomping. You doing your best to make damn sure you are dust's only lifeblood apparently. Is it so you can have a stranglehold over the devs like you seem to think you do now? Cause let me tell you, I won't play a game guided by that BS. You say love this game and want it to succeed but all I'm seeing is BS like the OP saying "we don't care what you want from this game, do it our way or we're out."

Yet it's vets that are punishing new players the most with pubstomping. You doing your best to make damn sure you are dust's only lifeblood apparently. Is it so you can have a stranglehold over the devs like you seem to think you do now? Cause let me tell you, I won't play a game guided by that BS. You say love this game and want it to succeed but all I'm seeing is BS like the OP saying "we don't care what you want from this game, do it our way or we're out."

Until a real baseline of balance is established and the game's content is filled out I really think that respects should be allowed with each patch or at least a refund of the skills that a directly impacted by a balance change until we reach that baseline. I believe this would allow CCP to actually have more freedom to perform balance adjustments in a meaningful way.

The only issue is that the respect system really has to be automated (and that would mean coding), so that it doesn't eat up a HUGE chunk of resources in dealing with the respects by hand.

I know a lot of people want to point their fingers at Cal Logis and go "HA HA", but quite frankly there is no reason to punish players for using the resources given to them to the best of their ability. It's so important that we move forward together as a community to improve this game.

For me that means Devs communicating to the community changes that they plan BEFORE they are locked in and giving those optional respecs (character or skill specific) to allow both the developers and the community the freedom to test and find the game balance that we are all looking for.

Explain how you've wasted any SP? If this is about Logistics suits, the adjustments they're making are to try and let them perform their roles the way they were supposed to.

The only CPM member with half a clue.

This is wasted SP because most of the Logi don't have any of those support skills armor rep tool nanite inject. None of that stuff. All that stuff costs SP to proto it up. Making it worthless. Oh well just means I can't help anybody else out now I have to spec just for me now. You guys think it's a great thing but in the end the people that will suffer the most is everybody else that depends on the Logi to uplink and drop ammo. It won't be there no more.

How does having to spend SP on it make it worthless? And you also read that they're receiving bonuses for that equipment in the next build, right? One of which will likely be to fitting so that you can get them on the suit more easily?

Honestly, I'm looking forward to speccing back into running support.

How does having to spend SP on it make it worthless? And you also read that they're receiving bonuses for that equipment in the next build, right? One of which will likely be to fitting so that you can get them on the suit more easily?

Honestly, I'm looking forward to speccing back into running support.

Exploit. How is using an item, the way the game designers put it into the game an exploit? Obviously the game designers themselves did not think it was overpowered, or else they wouldn't have put it in the game that way. The designers didn't deem it OP, the forums did.
And to call it an exploit is completely incorrect. The players specced into it for the qualities it had at the time. CCP doesn't immediately come out and say(or refute) that "HEY these items are too good! Don't spec into them!"
No. CCP just changes them without any real communication to the players.

Imagine a newbro, never heard of these forums sees the flaylocks in action and spends his whole first month of playin to get proto flaylocks. Hes gets them. He loves them. THEN the next day the nerf comes. His flaylocks been nerfed to absolute garbage. He then proceeds to curse at the game, point out its flaws, and leaves. Deletes dust off his console.
Similar situations to this story have happend thousands of time on dust.

Go figure he's the only one that has been successful....

Link plz? I have not seen this.