'New and veteran players' isn't the same thing as 'casual and hardcore players'.

Personally I would raise the SP cap to 1 mil SP per week, with a corresponding increase in the SP formula per battle I.e. each battle would give more SP then it currently produces.

If I remember correctly to max out everything comes to 282 mil SP which would take over 13.5 years with boosters under this revised cap and does not factor in future additions to the skill tree but it would allow new players the ability to produce a decent fit within 5-10 weeks while the rest of us would be working on our 2nd or 3rd fit.

I know that if I was not in the closed beta and did not have 10 million SP I would not be playing this game.
Flame all you want but 90% of the vets would not play this game if they had to start from scratch.

And STFU to anyone that will get on here and say that you would play even if you didn't have your 10+ Million SP's

You missed a digit there...

Edit: my bad I missed revised. Carry on.

...That does not make sense.



The aim of the skill cap is to ensure players progress through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players.

And the next line of that quote is:

"* The extra SP earned from the active skill boosters do not count towards your skill point cap. "

naughty. Playing with my calcs.

For those going urmmmmm here is the rough calc

Cap 1 mil SP
With booster - 1.5 mil SP per week
52 weeks = 78 mil SP

282 divided by 78 = 3.61 years.

Which also means that once you reach your cap, your Active booster bonus will be based on a 1SP for each WP to a maximum of 1,000 SP (1,500 SP with an Active Booster). Not very much an incentive to sell more booster if once you reached the cap you only get 500 SP/per battle as maximum bonus is it?

Just to mention that as well; The SP Cap has been modified several times in the past, and who knows, it could be altered again in the future. Feel free to share some feedback in the appropriate section if needed.

Just don't even bother playing after you cap, why should anybody keep playing a horrible game after he/she hits the cap. I have previously stated my point of view on this matter and have been shot down by other players, maintaining the gap between play is just funny segregation

Can I get you on record as saying that the entire skill system acts as something of a crutch to players whose actual playing ability would not be on the same level as their peers?

naughty. Playing with my calcs.

For those going urmmmmm here is the rough calc

Cap 1 mil SP
With booster - 1.5 mil SP per week
52 weeks = 78 mil SP

282 divided by 78 = 3.61 years.

With that much playing time I bet youll max out the skill tree before the Cubs win a pennant

...That does not make sense.



The aim of the skill cap is to ensure players progress through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players.

CCP said that to max out a character it would take 7 years, so the SP should be:

282/7= 40 <---40M exp a year
40/53=0.75 <--750K exp a week, rounded to 53 since 1 year is 52.11 weeks
The SP cap should be 750K exp a week.

Building a decent fit takes about 7M SP

7 / .75= 9.3 or 2 months and 4 days,it would take a hardcore new player 2 months and 4 days to catch up to a veteran, this is rather fair even if the veteran is also hardcore playing. Mostly because after you can build 1 proto build you can't really go above that, you go for tanks or LAVs but after 7M SP, or the SP to build 1 proto suit, SP becomes a luxury. Also if we account for passive SP then it would take a newbie 7.62 weeks or 1 month 23 days.

Lets use the current SP cap:
190K a week
190 x 52.11= 9.9M SP a year
282/9.9 = 28.48 years to max out a character
This is... I don't even think I will be alive by them, I will be 50 years old before I max my character out! I think my ps3 would have died 7 times over before I max out.

I do not support a cap whatsever, but if there is to be a rework of the cap it should be increased to at least 750K.

Feedback section is worthless, there are 30+ threads over the same topic that have been there for several months and we are still where we were left on January

The skill cap was originally introduces as a daily one and players were consulted about the change prior to it changing to a weekly one. Again, it is not impossible for the current cap to change again in the future.

CCP said that to max out a character it would take 7 years, so the SP should be:

282/7= 40 <---40M exp a year
40/53=0.75 <--750K exp a week, rounded to 53 since 1 year is 52.11 weeks
The SP cap should be 750K exp a week.

Building a decent fit takes about 7M SP

7 / .75= 9.3 or 2 months and 4 days,it would take a hardcore new player 2 months and 4 days to catch up to a veteran, this is rather fair even if the veteran is also hardcore playing. Mostly because after you can build 1 proto build you can't really go above that, you go for tanks or LAVs but after 7M SP, or the SP to build 1 proto suit, SP becomes a luxury. Also if we account for passive SP then it would take a newbie 7.62 weeks or 1 month 23 days.

Lets use the current SP cap:
190K a week
190 x 52.11= 9.9M SP a year
282/9.9 = 28.48 years to max out a character
This is... I don't even think I will be alive by them, I will be 50 years old before I max my character out! I think my ps3 would have died 7 times over before I max out.

I do not support a cap whatsever, but if there is to be a rework of the cap it should be increased to at least 750K.

My calc was based on changing the SP Cap to 1 mil SP (or 1.5 mil SP with booster) per week. It is not based on the existing cap.

Which also means that once you reach your cap, your Active booster bonus will be based on a 1SP for each WP to a maximum of 1,000 SP (1,500 SP with an Active Booster). Not very much an incentive to sell more booster if once you reached the cap you only get 500 SP/per battle as maximum bonus is it?

Just to mention that as well; The SP Cap has been modified several times in the past, and who knows, it could be altered again in the future. Feel free to share some feedback in the appropriate section if needed.

CCP said it would take 7 years to max all skills not max one character. If you are a closed beta tester and maxed out since the beginning you probably have 1 character with skills maxed out or nearly so. That is in 6 or so months of grind

Simply because a thread doesn't get a DEV tag on it does not mean it gets ignored. By putting your thread in the appropriate section you will ensure your feedback get as much attention as possible. Believe me, we do read a lot of stuff on those forums (Yes, even the silly threads! ).

The skill cap was originally introduces as a daily one and players were consulted about the change prior to it changing to a weekly one. Again, it is not impossible for the current cap to change again in the future.

Again, it is not impossible for the current cap to change again in the future.

Once again, we would like to remind you that weekly skill point rollover system is being worked on and that this is just the temporary solution that we are implementing.