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BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 16:49:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote: The aim of the skill cap is to ensure players progress through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players.
Yeah, hows this working out so far?
LOL
Out of 90% of the new players mouth, " SP gap is to much. "
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BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 16:59:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:BMSTUBBYxx wrote:GM Vegas wrote: The aim of the skill cap is to ensure players progress through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players.
Yeah, hows this working out so far? LOL Out of 90% of the new players mouth, " SP gap is to much. " That's a good point. I had a friend start playing DUST a few days ago and we squadded up. He told me how he had ~700K SP and then asked how many I had which I then told him pushing 9mil, his reaction was - f***.
I know that if I was not in the closed beta and did not have 10 million SP I would not be playing this game. Flame all you want but 90% of the vets would not play this game if they had to start from scratch.
And STFU to anyone that will get on here and say that you would play even if you didn't have your 10+ Million SP's |
BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 18:27:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote: Again, it is not impossible for the current cap to change again in the future.
Yeah we have heard this 4 months ago.
CCP Frame wrote:Once again, we would like to remind you that weekly skill point rollover system is being worked on and that this is just the temporary solution that we are implementing.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=503133#post503133
So you have been working on this for four months now and we still have not seen the solution.
So in the CCP world "temporary" = how many years till we see a solution?
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BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 19:16:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:
Then there is the P2W quote that comes up again. Skill points are nice, but they don't guarantee victory on the Battlefield. Believe me, I don't do any better in proto gear over militia one (Yes, yes, yes.... I might not be the best! ;) ).
Then do away with SP's and the skill tree all together and allow everyone access to all gear and skills and only play this game for ISK.
With your logic what is the point of grinding for SP? You all preach all the time that proto gear is no different than militia and the gear don't matter its you skills, blah blah blah!
Why are you forcing us all to grind for SP then?
Oh wait yeah that's right SP boosters = $$$$.
Please!
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BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 19:52:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:BMSTUBBYxx wrote:GM Vegas wrote:
Then there is the P2W quote that comes up again. Skill points are nice, but they don't guarantee victory on the Battlefield. Believe me, I don't do any better in proto gear over militia one (Yes, yes, yes.... I might not be the best! ;) ).
Then do away with SP's and the skill tree all together and allow everyone access to all gear and skills and only play this game for ISK. With your logic what is the point of grinding for SP? You all preach all the time that proto gear is no different than militia and the gear don't matter its you skills, blah blah blah! Why are you forcing us all to grind for SP then? Oh wait yeah that's right SP boosters = $$$$. Please! You can't be serious right? Just unlock everything....no game does that, even in Halo, CoD, other generic multiplayer shooter here, you have to play the game to unlock things like new gear, weapons, custom looks etc.. If you don't like grinding for SP, then don't, you don't want to pay for boosters don't. I really love how you whine about CCP selling boosters to make money, but they aren't a non-profit charity, they need to make money, like any other business. I'm not very happy with Dust at the moment or the promises CCP makes that it intends to fulfill 5 or 6 years down the road, but I'm not going to begrudge them trying to make some money to pay their bills and keep the devs paid, hell maybe if they sold more boosters they can get developers not based in China probably working for slave wages but can pay some Japanese or Western developers to get this game made properly.
Ummmm no I am not serious I was pointing out that GM Vegas's P2W reasoning is LOL!
Oh and BTW CCP are the ones that made this game F2P not me, so why should I care how their staff get paid or even how CCP makes money?
They made a crap F2P game and that is what they are going to get from me, crap!
As is I have already spent $20 more dollars on this game than I should have, my bad yo and it wont happen again.
I don't pay for boosters and I don't grind sp anymore, ( thanks The Last Of Us for saving me ) I am not whining about CCP selling boosters. I am LOL at them for them saying SP's and Boosters won't win games.
I would love for a PC corp to youtube a PC match win using only Militia gear, how bout it hot shot are you and your Corp up for the task? |
BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:58:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:BMSTUBBYxx wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:BMSTUBBYxx wrote:GM Vegas wrote: The aim of the skill cap is to ensure players progress through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players.
Yeah, hows this working out so far? LOL Out of 90% of the new players mouth, " SP gap is to much. " That's a good point. I had a friend start playing DUST a few days ago and we squadded up. He told me how he had ~700K SP and then asked how many I had which I then told him pushing 9mil, his reaction was - f***. I know that if I was not in the closed beta and did not have 10 million SP I would not be playing this game. Flame all you want but 90% of the vets would not play this game if they had to start from scratch. And STFU to anyone that will get on here and say that you would play even if you didn't have your 10+ Million SP's 90% why not 99.9%. If your going to use a made up number, at least do it properly. 100% of your posts so far in this thread are 99.9% bollox.
LOL your British, lol.
I am so sorry.
Merica FTW MFer! |
BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:45:00 -
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Jason Punk wrote:Honestly, the real issue is that it the value of ISK is somewhat null and void...skilling up should be something that takes a long time...but it shouldn't really be the end goal. The end goal needs to be the market, the isk, value that ebbs and flows with the player metagame of warfare and conquest...not SP.
This is truly the direction I believe needs more love. There is virtually nothing we can manipulate in the skill cap or SP numbers that will satisfy everyone. The current system is the result of player feedback and the same comments you're all making now. Nothing has changed gentlemen, the system itself is fine, it's the context of the game it exists in which is the problem...instead of SP gap, empower the new players with more things he can do to help his team...That, gentlemen, is how we grow a game.
I think the whole community is becoming a little timid. Don't give up on the numbers, but let's not lose sight of the game as a whole. The question is not how do we make things 'fair' for everyone, but how do we give everyone the ability to fulfill a role for a group or friends without the need of SP or vast game experience?
I tried to warn you that this ^ horse was dead. Did you get banned?
No response = yes got the ban hammer |
BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:54:00 -
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Jason Punk wrote:lol, wut?
Your sweet little thread begging that GM Vegas reopen your locked thread about the dead horse of SP gap.
Thought maybe you might have got banned after that.
Your thread disappeared real quick. |
BMSTUBBYxx
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:09:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:CCP money grabbing? Really? You do realize that CCP can afford to make dust free to play and that they don't require anyone to spend a cent. Why? Eve Online costs $15 a month to play and they have how many active accounts including mine? And all they do is Eve Online and Dust 514. They're not trying to develop and support 6+ other games on top of that. That's why AUR gear provides very little, if any, advantage.
If you want to see what real money grabbing is like, play the social games on Facebook, or many of the games on Bigpoint, or Pirate Galaxy by Split Screen games. Those are truly pay to win.
World Of Darkness, just saying. |
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