Shield tanks have less EHP then armor tanks and therefore AV decimates shields much easier then armor.

Shield tanks have less EHP then armor tanks and therefore AV decimates shields much easier then armor.

you forgot blasters(turrets) and plasma cannons.

ya some dude was saying the same thing with his 5.5k shield tank compared to a 5.9k armor madrugar..... the only way for armor to get a significant hp increase over shield is to use a standard large missile and a 15% pg expansion and fit a 180mm plate.... blaster madrugars dont have enough PG to fit a 180mm without giving up all their damage resistance for PG expansions...

both blasters and plasma cannons are hybrid weapons they do the same damage to both shield and armor

shield tanks still have the advantage when it comes to getting attacked by AV... the only things that do more damage to shield tanks than armor tanks are flux and orbitals everything else does the same or greater damage to armor

this is getting annoying. just so it is out there
weapos/turrets that do 100% on both is forge guns, railguns, and orbitals (warbarge ones)(thats3 for people counting)
ones that are more effective on armor are AV grenades, swarm launchers and missile turrets(that's 3 for people counting)
ones that are more effective on shields are flux, plasma cannon and blaster turrets(that's also 3 for people counting)
so everyone can see there are 3 for each.
this does not count small arms fire because that's an infantry thing to worry about but I can add them if people want to argue over them.

I was testing rail guns today and they do 89% dammage to armour and 109% dammage to shields so really its not that even as 20% more efficient against shields is quite a jump. Test it and see for yourself I didnt know the exact figure myself. Ill be testi g the efficiencys of all av against both shield and armour. Avnades excluded.

this is getting annoying. just so it is out there
weapos/turrets that do 100% on both is forge guns, railguns, and orbitals (warbarge ones)(thats3 for people counting)
ones that are more effective on armor are AV grenades, swarm launchers and missile turrets(that's 3 for people counting)
ones that are more effective on shields are flux, plasma cannon and blaster turrets(that's also 3 for people counting)
so everyone can see there are 3 for each.
this does not count small arms fire because that's an infantry thing to worry about but I can add them if people want to argue over them.

I stand corrected. rails do more to shields then armor, that needs to be fixed. this also effects forge guns. this needs to be fixed ASAP CCP.

I switched from Armor tanking to Shield tanking with the respec, and now have buyers remorse for the most part. I did this so that I could have more survivability against infantry. I do for the most part unless someone comes out with plasma cannon, forge gun, flux grenades. Then I drop extremely fast.

The resistance against explosives is nice though as most infantry use that. It does really suck though that if I see any armor tank hit the field, I have to try to run and flank them just to have a chance, or I have to put the dam thing away.

If I see a shield tank hit the field though.... I'm not nearly as scared. I can normally destroy a fellow shield tanker no problem.

After a while of trying to tinker with fittings and such to find something more efficient for me, in the end I feel like there really is only 1 way to go in shield tank to have any edge at all, as passive tanking is barely viable, and even active tanking I only get half my shields back, then have to sit around like an idiot behind a rock praying someone doesn't find me.

I agree with the majority of the people that say Armor > Shield tanks, and I normally don't like to choose sides in discussions like this.

something.. I surprised that no dev has posted anything, guess they think its balanced then..

There's no way they think its balanced. If it goes around 2 months without anything on the subject I'll probably drop the game. Too deep into Caldari to turn around.

I actually just went ahead and bought my way back into Gallente tanks. It does suck feeling like I have "wasted" so much SP, but hopefully they will balance some things out later, and I can get some use out of the shield tank. It really does do better against explosives which helps. Might have to just be a bit situational.

Than again, being in armor again last night I kinda realized that it almost doesn't matter so long as I can turn on my repper and get ALL MY FRIGGIN HP BACK. Having played shields all month, and going back to armor is really making me see the HUGE difference.

Unless we get 1 more magical respec, I'll just deal with all the SP in shields. I like driving a caldari death taxi every now and then anyway. :)

I actually just went ahead and bought my way back into Gallente tanks. It does suck feeling like I have "wasted" so much SP, but hopefully they will balance some things out later, and I can get some use out of the shield tank. It really does do better against explosives which helps. Might have to just be a bit situational.

Than again, being in armor again last night I kinda realized that it almost doesn't matter so long as I can turn on my repper and get ALL MY FRIGGIN HP BACK. Having played shields all month, and going back to armor is really making me see the HUGE difference.

Unless we get 1 more magical respec, I'll just deal with all the SP in shields. I like driving a caldari death taxi every now and then anyway. :)

How deep are you into Caldari?

I dunno if I could just start dumping points into armor and not feel under powered. I suppose I've got proto hybrid which is good and I've got the core skills to 5, just no points into armor skills at all.

I'm pretty deep myself .. When the launch came, I didn't think at all that they'd change anything about the balance of tanks cause there didn't seem to be anything wrong with em i'm the last build (as far as balance went anyway. :/ )