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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:40:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Its only fair that we have to give the isk back. but thats just my op onion.
Yeah give it back fine. But reset everyone's wallet back to pre-downtime values.
Give back the ISK but end up in negative wallet balance because of a Developer mishap? You're turning a bad situation into a nightmare. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
27
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:42:00 -
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Deadeye Dic wrote:I posted this in the other thread as well, but wanted to post here as well, just in case it matters.
Starting to think I wished I'd found this thread BEFORE I spent my SP and ISK this morning.
However, I did ask for a Respec and I got that Respec and had just over 67 Mil ISK afterwards. Although, I still had all my suits and equipment on those suits. In fact, the fitting screen just showed that I was lacking the skills to wear the suit.
going negative on your wallet is a nothing todo. the only thing that happens is you cant buy anything NEW until you get back to positive. thank god that theres militia suits and bpos you can use, cause its less fun in EVE where any ship that can make you the money fast enough to get positive is generally not 'cheap' when you cant buy another until you get back to the positives.
as for the SP, i assume you cant train new skills until you get back to positive as well. but i doubt that theyll be revoking levels. think of it as an alternative for aurum while you grind your way back to the land of the positives
IRuby Heart wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:Its only fair that we have to give the isk back. but thats just my op onion. Yeah give it back fine. But reset everyone's wallet back to pre-downtime values. Give back the ISK but end up in negative wallet balance because of a Developer mishap? You're turning a bad situation into a nightmare.
and reseting the wallets to pre downtime still leaves the individuals assets unless they do a FULL reset to pre-downtime, which likely not as simple as saying someone is negative on their wallet. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:42:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:How would anyone know it was illegitimate? CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet.
"Ok cool, I must've been reimbursed for something they took out."
Is the the first thought that crosses everyone's mind who doesn't follow this forum.
Not, CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet.
Doesnt take a forumer to know you didnt spend double/triple your current funds on skill books. And the skill reimbursement thread specifically said that only SP and the cost of skill books would be returned and not the purchased items.
Quote:" OH SH!T CCP F#CKED UP, I SHOULD AVOID SPENDING ANY ISK BECAUSE MY WALLET MIGHT GET RESET TO 200 MILLION IN THE RED ZONE!!"
Sounds like something a person who took advantage of this error would say. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
343
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:44:00 -
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I have 0 ISK and 0 AUR. CCP, you owe me $100 bc I just bought your elite pack. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
290
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:45:00 -
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I know people that have spent it and now they'll be in the negative. What a cluster fbomb.
To be honest if the money was donated to corps I think they should let it go. There's no telling how much money has been wasted due to laggy PC games and screwed up mechanics that allowed districts to restock clones when they shouldn't have. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
229
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:46:00 -
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Ok so I got my respec, since I literally don't know how much ISK is mine and what isn't mine, and I have to rebuy all my stuff....
Quick solution as I type this I got an in game mail.
Thank you. Now I can continue with my stuff. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
290
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:47:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I have 0 ISK and 0 AUR. CCP, you owe me $100 bc I just bought your elite pack.
Wow, I just did too. If I have no ISK and no AUR I'm going to be pissed off.
I have a feeling somebody in Iceland is having a bad day. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:51:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I have 0 ISK and 0 AUR. CCP, you owe me $100 bc I just bought your elite pack. Wow, I just did too. If I have no ISK and no AUR I'm going to be pissed off. I have a feeling somebody in Iceland is having a bad day.
Bad day? They have probably just been informed they are out of a job and is off home to run a hot bath and reach for the razor blades. Either that or having the the biggest lol ever. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS X. II
6
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:53:00 -
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I was in a match and a notice just popped up, outa reflex i pressed x, no i dont know what it said:''''( it said someting about live fixes. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:53:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:How would anyone know it was illegitimate? CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet.
"Ok cool, I must've been reimbursed for something they took out."
Is the the first thought that crosses everyone's mind who doesn't follow this forum.
Not, CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet. Doesnt take a forumer to know you didnt spend double/triple your current funds on skill books. And the skill reimbursement thread specifically said that only SP and the cost of skill books would be returned and not the purchased items. Quote:" OH SH!T CCP F#CKED UP, I SHOULD AVOID SPENDING ANY ISK BECAUSE MY WALLET MIGHT GET RESET TO 200 MILLION IN THE RED ZONE!!" Sounds like something a person who took advantage of this error would say.
I haven't spend a penny, kid. I'm just not so blinded by my own good judgment that I should say "LOL F#CK YOU!" to everybody who didn't do the same. |
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GM Grave
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
187
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:54:00 -
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Original post updated at 15:50 and in game broadcast sent at 15:45 (all times UTC). |
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Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
229
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:55:00 -
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.... Message said it is recommended I restart my ps3. I did. Still have a bunch of ISK. GG |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
28
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:56:00 -
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i put all my isk into corp wallet, then was reminded about the negative wallet aspect... then i got my money back from corp.
anyone who managed to go negative better hope they bought useful things that they can use properly, or be real comfortable in militia gear.
it doesnt mean they wont be able to play |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
292
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:59:00 -
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I asked this in another thread, but do you guys realize there are people that AFK with numerous alts all day long with multiple playstations? These people just moved all that isk around and do not care if those characters go negative.
There are some dudes out there that will NEVER worry about ISK again. They have one of their alts sitting in a dummy corp that has billions of ISK. They'll transfer over to that corp with their main and take as needed for the next few years.
This was a colossal fail. Maybe the rest of us are lucky and most of those guys were at work, but something tells me people that have time to go to such lengths to accumulate ISK don't have jobs. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
33
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:59:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal.
The last time we got a skill respec we also got alot of ISK, NTM CCP originally said they were going to refund the ISK cost of all items. So I can understand perfectly why someone would think that it was completely normal to have some extra cash today. |
Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:00:00 -
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Katius Maximus wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction why should i jump through hoops to try to make it easier for CCP to fix THEIR mistake.i thought that ISK was for a ASSETS wipe or they had changed the denomination of the ISK like they have done with the AURUM before.it wasnt untill i checked my assets and wallet i reliased something was wrong by then it was too late the money was already donated. Che Cortez wrote:Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you? i could but why should i it is CCP's mistake not mine
Really.. Really, that is your position on this... . Please tell me your joking.
I'm really dumbfounded by that way of thinking, I don't even know what to say..
Thanks for the laugh? And good luck with that mate
Lol |
JERRY-666
DOOM TEAM INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:00:00 -
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I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec...  |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
Che Cortez wrote:Katius Maximus wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction why should i jump through hoops to try to make it easier for CCP to fix THEIR mistake.i thought that ISK was for a ASSETS wipe or they had changed the denomination of the ISK like they have done with the AURUM before.it wasnt untill i checked my assets and wallet i reliased something was wrong by then it was too late the money was already donated. Che Cortez wrote:Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you? i could but why should i it is CCP's mistake not mine Really.. Really, that is your position on this... . Please tell me your joking. I'm really dumbfounded by that way of thinking, I don't even know what to say.. Thanks for the laugh? And good luck with that mate Lol
Uh?? It is CCP's mistake, Are you denying that?
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Moonracer2000
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
505
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:03:00 -
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hehe, I thought the extra ISK might have been an apology for all the ISK we spent in broken PC matches and an encouragement to continue spending ISK to test PC. Oh well. |
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GM Grave
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
187
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:04:00 -
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JERRY-666 wrote:I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec...
Have you counted skill points in use in addition to unused skill points? Our server info for your character appears to reflect you do indeed have all of the skill points you have claimed to own. |
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Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
350
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:05:00 -
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JERRY-666 wrote:I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec...
Just out of interest, check your corp skills if any are still there. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1649
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:05:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:We are aware of issues regarding user skills and ISK as of downtime today the 28th of May. We are working to resolve these issues as soon as possible. On behalf of the DUST 514 team please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. Please note that users and corporations affected by skill or ISK issues should refrain from spending extra ISK or SP as such gains/losses are subject to reversal and may in extreme cases lead to a negative balance based on player actions. Update: 15:50 UTC - We have implemented a live fix for this issue, and advise all users connected at 15:45 UTC to restart their DUST game clients to help prevent further issues. [ Lead GM Grave | Project Lead | CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514 ]
Now if only you could apologize for releasing the half assed uprising build.  |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
472
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:06:00 -
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JERRY-666 wrote:I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec...
The same thing happened to me yesterday. I had 5.6 million skill points but logged in with only 5.3 million. Curiously this is about the same net skill point loss as you. Anyways I rebooted Dust and it fixed everything. |
JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
450
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:08:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Hell no CCP, You can take your isk back if you have to but at the cost of having all of those who DID spend their cash or donate already be negatively impacted is a huge no go!
If you can't figure out a way to prevent that negative wallet balance or properly revert everyone's wallets back to pre-downtime values, then you need to call it a loss and let everyone keep that ISK. I doubt an extra 100 million ISK is a gamebreaker...
Regardless of weither you think it was illogical or immoral to take advantage of the extra ISK, punishing the player base for a developer's mistakes is not the solution.
Welcome to Merc Pack refund 2.0 |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
28
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:08:00 -
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and what happens if im still at 309/153m isk? and is there by any chance any details as to why some people seemed to have been arbitrarily skipped for respec? ive gotten reports that its not simply on a first come, first serve basis, and cant determine if alphabetical was the justification |
JERRY 666
DOOM TEAM INC.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:08:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:JERRY-666 wrote:I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec... Have you counted skill points in use in addition to unused skill points? Our server info for your character appears to reflect you do indeed have all of the skill points you have claimed to own.
I only have level 5 corporation skills that is all that is all. Everything else was respec. |
Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:08:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Che Cortez wrote:Katius Maximus wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction why should i jump through hoops to try to make it easier for CCP to fix THEIR mistake.i thought that ISK was for a ASSETS wipe or they had changed the denomination of the ISK like they have done with the AURUM before.it wasnt untill i checked my assets and wallet i reliased something was wrong by then it was too late the money was already donated. Che Cortez wrote:Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you? i could but why should i it is CCP's mistake not mine Really.. Really, that is your position on this... . Please tell me your joking. I'm really dumbfounded by that way of thinking, I don't even know what to say.. Thanks for the laugh? And good luck with that mate Lol Uh?? It is CCP's mistake, Are you denying that?
Where did I say that it wasn't CCP's mistake?
More just admiring the, "you did it. You fix it" attitude. |
JERRY 666
DOOM TEAM INC.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:09:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:JERRY-666 wrote:I got my respec today, and received 7,000,000 ISK and I'm missing SP. My lifetime skills are 1,268,997 and I'm showing I have 958,079 SP after the respec... The same thing happened to me yesterday. I had 5.6 million skill points but logged in with only 5.3 million. Curiously this is about the same net skill point loss as you. Anyways I rebooted Dust and it fixed everything.
I'll try that now.  |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
186
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:12:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:Original post updated at 15:50 and in game broadcast sent at 15:45 (all times UTC).
Your hotfix didn't work. Sure you didn't just mess something else up trying to fix this? |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:13:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Hell no CCP, You can take your isk back if you have to but at the cost of having all of those who DID spend their cash or donate already be negatively impacted is a huge no go!
If you can't figure out a way to prevent that negative wallet balance or properly revert everyone's wallets back to pre-downtime values, then you need to call it a loss and let everyone keep that ISK. I doubt an extra 100 million ISK is a gamebreaker...
Regardless of weither you think it was illogical or immoral to take advantage of the extra ISK, punishing the player base for a developer's mistakes is not the solution. Welcome to Merc Pack refund 2.0
Wow, the only person to convince me otherwise. One line made me see... |
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