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LICHSMASHER
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:06:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Lichsmash RN wrote:i didnt even request a respec and 54 mill just showed up in my wallet none of my stuff is missing and my skills are all there i filed a help ticket to get it remove but it looks like this is a server wide issue
and you complaining because?
ive seen stuff like this happen before an what usually happens is you get your wallet wiped of that isk |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
611
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:29:00 -
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Was there an explanation of what the hotfix was intended to fix? I'm guessing not the extra ISK. |
Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock
Ultramarine Corp
9
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:51:00 -
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Oss Tex wrote:Charlie 'Chaplin' Pennock wrote:
If you didn't ask for an original respec then obviously I'm not talking to you :)
Pffft, fanboydom at it's worst. CCP isn't jumping through hoops for anyone but themselves (which is fine). They're out to make a buck and don't need your rescuing.
That's right just to the fanboy discredit bit, don't get prissy with me just cause you're butthurt. The game is not broken. CCP isn't intentionally screwing any of you. I love how people panic over the most trivial things. |
musterk sainsk
Guardia Imperial
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:55:00 -
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When i log in yesterday i had 8 mil isk i did the respec early today at 8am mountain time i log in in dust 514 and my isk is at 21 mil and my skill points are still the same or lower .... |
Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:57:00 -
[125] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal.
No something isn't wrong jenza, and the salvation army gives away free meals every day. |
Senator Snipe
NOVA TECH MARINES Hephaestus Forge Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:11:00 -
[126] - Quote
I asked for a skill respec and i only got my isk not my skill points. How come i didn't get my skill points back >.> |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
611
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:12:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:I asked for a skill respec and i only got my isk not my skill points. How come i didn't get my skill points back >.>
Because you haven't gotten your respec. There was an issue and everybody got a lot of ISK that will be taken back shortly. |
Sev Kimura
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
129
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:14:00 -
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CCP, you should have just let us keep the money, it equals more fun for the players, more fights in pc battles like you want and the community wants, and more money in your pocket over time, due to players having fun and spending more time in your game. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:16:00 -
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basically its like this, ccp messed up and gave us isk that we were not supposed to get, so they want to fix that and take it away from us which is in there every right to do but to be honest its messed up to take it back.
This is to CCP.
its not like you messed up and gave us an abundence of Aur(which costs real money) you gave us a ton of isk which is generated in game and does not cost anyone anything at all. by letting us keep the extra isk will not cost your company a single cent at all, all it will do is keep your player base extremely happy and maybe generate more players that will spend real money on AUR.
people remember that anything to do with isk cost everyone absolutly nothing. it costs a player nothing and it costs CCP nothing to let us keep it. but it will cost ccp money on the time that it takes their devs to fix this whole problem, because it is taking time aways from the important stuff the devs need to be working on like the lag issues in pc battles as well as the stupid spots you get stuck on terrane and the stupid range and damage on the tac ars.
CCP let us keep this isk and spend the time fixing the things that are making the game bad, you have a great game if all the bugs could be worked out of it. |
Senator Snipe
NOVA TECH MARINES Hephaestus Forge Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:21:00 -
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ya we should keep the isk, and i would really appreciate it if i can get my skill points back because i asked for a respec. Thanks |
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JONAHBENHUR
New Eden's Most Wanted Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:28:00 -
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Got my respec spent the skills got shorted over a million skill points and now can't run any suits I ran yesterday so had to buy all new gear and now your going to try to puts us into the negative what the fruit? Did eve launch with this many problems?
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
154
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:28:00 -
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is it ok to spend my isk now? |
Senator Snipe
NOVA TECH MARINES Hephaestus Forge Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:40:00 -
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JONAHBENHUR wrote:Got my respec spent the skills got shorted over a million skill points and now can't run any suits I ran yesterday so had to buy all new gear and now your going to try to puts us into the negative what the fruit? Did eve launch with this many problems?
LOOOOOL what the fruit. i am laughing so hard right now lol. But i really hope i get my sp back cus i requested for a respec :| Anyway, how did others got their respec and i didn't? |
Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
53
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:55:00 -
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mines still f***ed. nothings changed no respec on either my accounts. put a ticket in earlier about the broke respec and just received the automated response about being put in que for respec. this whole thing is just an utter f*** up really. |
Murdolator
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:12:00 -
[135] - Quote
Whole situation is just jacked up I guess. Put in a ticket on the 16th, reply the next day. Just more than double the isk I had, and no sp refund, so the batches definitely seem to be. Kind of afraid to play the game after reading through this thread. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:48:00 -
[136] - Quote
Senator Snipe wrote:JONAHBENHUR wrote:Got my respec spent the skills got shorted over a million skill points and now can't run any suits I ran yesterday so had to buy all new gear and now your going to try to puts us into the negative what the fruit? Did eve launch with this many problems?
LOOOOOL what the fruit. i am laughing so hard right now lol. But i really hope i get my sp back cus i requested for a respec :| Anyway, how did others got their respec and i didn't?
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Khamelaya
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:55:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:As detailed previously, skill respecs requests will be released in batches based on first come first served. However if you received a response from us confirming receipt of your request you will receive a skill respec in the coming days.
If you have not received a response confirming receipt with 72 hours of filing a petition then please let us know.
GM Grave wrote:Those players who have registered for a skill respec should now have received their skill points along with ISK refunds for skill books that have been removed.
Mixed messages much? In one post you say they everyone who registered for a respec should have it by now, then you say that some will receive it in the coming days.
I registered for a respec but have not received it yet, I also received an extra 80 million isK (approx). The client restart had no effect. Still have all my old skills, still have too much ISK. Should I be submitting a ticked or should I be waiting for a later batch of respecs? |
PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F
22
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:56:00 -
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I got a lot of isk but no SP respec.
Sure they HAVE to take back the isk. Not all players got isk, and some players got a lot more then others it would not be fair to let us keep it.
Some players did not get any isk at all. Some players only got a few mill. Isk (5-10 mill.) Some players got 200+ mill. Isk
They HAVE to take it back.
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Shiney Berbles
Nephilim Initiative
2
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:15:00 -
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@players - stop complaining, stuff happens, and if you went and spent isk you knew wasn't earned then shame on you for taking a handout.
@CCP - apologies for all these ppl who complaining about going negitive, its like they have never had a real life and never used a bank account. Thinking they can spend unearned isk.... keep the game strong and awesome!
Oh and at players, before you start attacking me.. I also received just about double what I had in isk. But I didn't spend cause I thought about where the money may have come from (to include skill changes/refunds and marketplace refunds). After nothing had changed I thought ok a mistake has been made and to keep the dust economy alive in these early stages CCP would probably take the isk back...
"I love being a merc, I get paid to kill stuff" -unknown |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:18:00 -
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Khamelaya wrote:GM Grave wrote:As detailed previously, skill respecs requests will be released in batches based on first come first served. However if you received a response from us confirming receipt of your request you will receive a skill respec in the coming days.
If you have not received a response confirming receipt with 72 hours of filing a petition then please let us know. GM Grave wrote:Those players who have registered for a skill respec should now have received their skill points along with ISK refunds for skill books that have been removed. Mixed messages much? In one post you say they everyone who registered for a respec should have it by now, then you say that some will receive it in the coming days. I registered for a respec but have not received it yet, I also received an extra 80 million isK (approx). The client restart had no effect. Still have all my old skills, still have too much ISK. Should I be submitting a ticked or should I be waiting for a later batch of respecs?
if your petition got an automated response stating you were flagged, you will be in a later batch of respecs coming between now and sometime after the 31st. i posted my petition 2 weeks ago, 14/05/2013, and gm grave responded that i somehow got merged off into another batch than the first one thismorning during some arbitrary cutoff of batches.
not alphabetical, not by first come first served, just miraculous FML lottery jackpot that i got to one of the few, the proud, individuals who flagged on the 17th to not get in on the first wave respec. it wouldnt have been annoying if they could have stated that it was a sensible reason, either date or alphabetical, or SOMETHING, beyond the effective 'oh we dont know what to tell you, tough luck'
they havent given any sort of information on what 'future batch' implies, if i was to get a respec at the hotfix(confirmed not the case), or if i will get a respec tommorow, or not till with the last batch of respecs processed on the 31st before downtime.
i understand that keeping an updated list of EVERY individual to be respecd is a bit silly, but if theyd at least make some sort of release with their INTENTIONS instead of leaving us in the dark, the whole situation would be a lot less frustrating with a justification. |
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Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:33:00 -
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I think we should get to keep it. Compensation for all the stuff we've lost to lag, getting stuck on NOTHING, faulty hit detection, FAULTY REVIVING, FR Drops, shall I continue? |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
12
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:43:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:basically its like this, ccp messed up and gave us isk that we were not supposed to get, so they want to fix that and take it away from us which is in there every right to do but to be honest its messed up to take it back.
This is to CCP.
its not like you messed up and gave us an abundence of Aur(which costs real money) you gave us a ton of isk which is generated in game and does not cost anyone anything at all. by letting us keep the extra isk will not cost your company a single cent at all, all it will do is keep your player base extremely happy and maybe generate more players that will spend real money on AUR.
people remember that anything to do with isk cost everyone absolutly nothing. it costs a player nothing and it costs CCP nothing to let us keep it. but it will cost ccp money on the time that it takes their devs to fix this whole problem, because it is taking time aways from the important stuff the devs need to be working on like the lag issues in pc battles as well as the stupid spots you get stuck on terrane and the stupid range and damage on the tac ars.
CCP let us keep this isk and spend the time fixing the things that are making the game bad, you have a great game if all the bugs could be worked out of it. this somes up my feeling everyone should like this post |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:15:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:843-Vika wrote:basically its like this, ccp messed up and gave us isk that we were not supposed to get, so they want to fix that and take it away from us which is in there every right to do but to be honest its messed up to take it back.
This is to CCP.
its not like you messed up and gave us an abundence of Aur(which costs real money) you gave us a ton of isk which is generated in game and does not cost anyone anything at all. by letting us keep the extra isk will not cost your company a single cent at all, all it will do is keep your player base extremely happy and maybe generate more players that will spend real money on AUR.
people remember that anything to do with isk cost everyone absolutly nothing. it costs a player nothing and it costs CCP nothing to let us keep it. but it will cost ccp money on the time that it takes their devs to fix this whole problem, because it is taking time aways from the important stuff the devs need to be working on like the lag issues in pc battles as well as the stupid spots you get stuck on terrane and the stupid range and damage on the tac ars.
CCP let us keep this isk and spend the time fixing the things that are making the game bad, you have a great game if all the bugs could be worked out of it. this somes up my feeling everyone should like this post
that post is riddled with ignorance.
i dont want people having an extra 100m isk, i have been waiting for the proto bears and tank spammers to run out of isk so that the game stops being a battle of whos got more proto. i remember when it was a big deal to drop a proto suit in a match, and you usually didnt spam them unless you were REALLY good with them.... now everyone and their brother spams their shiniest proto suits like its the cool thing to do. when you came across the proto corps out there, you knew you were going down, but you knew you were gonna punch a hole in their wallet if you could get even just a couple kills...
with this influx of random isk, it takes the risk vs reward away, its no fun grinding down someones wallet match after match if you know the 5x 3m isk tanks you destroyed isnt going to stop them from spamming the same tank loadout another 20+ times...
a game where death has meaning... it loses the edge if you dont have to work to replace the losses... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1515
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:50:00 -
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Shiney Berbles wrote:@players - stop complaining, stuff happens, and if you went and spent isk you knew wasn't earned then shame on you for taking a handout.
@CCP - apologies for all these ppl who complaining about going negitive, its like they have never had a real life and never used a bank account. Thinking they can spend unearned isk.... keep the game strong and awesome!
Oh and at players, before you start attacking me.. I also received just about double what I had in isk. But I didn't spend cause I thought about where the money may have come from (to include skill changes/refunds and marketplace refunds). After nothing had changed I thought ok a mistake has been made and to keep the dust economy alive in these early stages CCP would probably take the isk back...
"I love being a merc, I get paid to kill stuff" -unknown GTFOH, logic and common sense have no place on these forums! |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
98
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:00:00 -
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I just don't understand. When we (corp) logged on and noticed that we had excess funds we went through our assets, skills, the marketplace etc. to see what had changed. We couldn't find anything and figured there's an issue. So we just let the isk sit. It took us two or three minutes to go through everything. How hard is that? Now people are complaining because they tried living beyond their means with money they didn't have? I just don't understand. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there an economist on staff at CCP? And isn't there a plan to intigrate the Eve and Dust economies? How would that excess isk impact that move? Especially since that move doesn't happen without them having an accurate picture of how the Dust economy works. A little bit of forward thinking goes a long way. If we want the two economies merged as soon as possible we shouldn't have a problem with CCP taking the isk back. My 0.02 isk. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
36
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:06:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:I just don't understand. When we (corp) logged on and noticed that we had excess funds we went through our assets, skills, the marketplace etc. to see what had changed. We couldn't find anything and figured there's an issue. So we just let the isk sit. It took us two or three minutes to go through everything. How hard is that? Now people are complaining because they tried living beyond their means with money they didn't have? I just don't understand. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there an economist on staff at CCP? And isn't there a plan to intigrate the Eve and Dust economies? How would that excess isk impact that move? Especially since that move doesn't happen without them having an accurate picture of how the Dust economy works. A little bit of forward thinking goes a long way. If we want the two economies merged as soon as possible we shouldn't have a problem with CCP taking the isk back. My 0.02 isk.
Dr Eyjoh or something i believe is the staff economist, and i think there was a second one, at least for a while, may have downsized the second one with the company restructure a few years back... but as far as i am aware, the senior economist should still be there.
and you havent spent enough time in Jita... its a .01 isk game...
but people attempted to exploit the mechanics, i admit to trying it. but when CCP comes back to them with the 'simple' solution of just placing people in the negatives rather than try to track down and take back what has been bought and possibly lost, people get mad and upset for getting thwarted. |
jin foxdale
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
17
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:22:00 -
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i dont want people having an extra 100m isk, i have been waiting for the proto bears and tank spammers to run out of isk so that the game stops being a battle of whos got more proto. i remember when it was a big deal to drop a proto suit in a match, and you usually didnt spam them unless you were REALLY good with them.... now everyone and their brother spams their shiniest proto suits like its the cool thing to do. when you came across the proto corps out there, you knew you were going down, but you knew you were gonna punch a hole in their wallet if you could get even just a couple kills...
with this influx of random isk, it takes the risk vs reward away, its no fun grinding down someones wallet match after match if you know the 5x 3m isk tanks you destroyed isnt going to stop them from spamming the same tank loadout another 20+ times...
a game where death has meaning... it loses the edge if you dont have to work to replace the losses...[/quote]
excellent post. +1 |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
98
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:22:00 -
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@SuperKing Never played Eve but I've been eyeballing it for a few years. That's why I'm here now. A little bit of inflation going on up top? Still, I just don't understand, yeah it's a game and it's not real money but it still feels like theft to me. But that might just be the roleplayer in me talking. Or the stubborn indipendant individualist in me... I'm not sure. Either way, my guys weren't effected because it was suspect to begin with to us... To say we didn't have a little discussion how to keep it would be a lie, but it was all just messing around and having a good time... It IS just a game on our end after all... |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
38
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:41:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:@SuperKing Never played Eve but I've been eyeballing it for a few years. That's why I'm here now. A little bit of inflation going on up top? Still, I just don't understand, yeah it's a game and it's not real money but it still feels like theft to me. But that might just be the roleplayer in me talking. Or the stubborn individualist in me... I'm not sure. Either way, my guys weren't effected because it was suspect to begin with to us... To say we didn't have a little discussion how to keep it would be a lie, but it was all just messing around and having a good time... It IS just a game on our end after all...
im glad im not the only one who admits to having attempted to keep it even though it wasnt rightfully mine, and that your not raging about the loss like some of the others...
hard to say about the inflation, incursions had people showering in ISK faucets, then they took away drone loot driving down supply for an increasing demand of higher end gear. it was a series of events that lead up to prices reaching back to what i remember them being from 5 years ago... as i recall, my first raven was 120m(2007), it died in 45 minutes or less, then i remember buying megathrons and dominixes for less than 75m each(2010), and now theyre back up closer to 100m last i bought one(2012)... so is it so much inflation? or simply a return of order to the chaos of market values? |
Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:45:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Che Cortez wrote:Katius Maximus wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction why should i jump through hoops to try to make it easier for CCP to fix THEIR mistake.i thought that ISK was for a ASSETS wipe or they had changed the denomination of the ISK like they have done with the AURUM before.it wasnt untill i checked my assets and wallet i reliased something was wrong by then it was too late the money was already donated. Che Cortez wrote:Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you? i could but why should i it is CCP's mistake not mine Really.. Really, that is your position on this... . Please tell me your joking. I'm really dumbfounded by that way of thinking, I don't even know what to say.. Thanks for the laugh? And good luck with that mate Lol Uh?? It is CCP's mistake, Are you denying that? Here is a person who can't understand right from wrong and wants everything given to him instead of working for it.
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